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Rob,

the 2 Dubliners I have as signing the Covenant were both Dublin born.

http://johnny-doyle.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/the-ulster-covenant-dublin-signatures-2.html

Alphonsus Jeannette

William Vize (Service record and MIC on Ancestry)

A snippet re John Gordon Lewis :

http://johnny-doyle.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/john-gordon-lewis.html

Derry is not a place I know well and I'm happy to take your call that it's unlikely to be Mina Lennox-Conyngham's group.

The 2 Sweeney's in my signature are both sons of a Derry man.

Posted

Johnny,

That's interesting, those two names are quite good for tracing, I am surprised there are not more. I have meant to do more searching in the North but other things keep me off it as I believe it needs some time.

At the moment i'm doing a lot of research on the Derry City UVF. Thankfully there are a lot of records available.

One thing i'm looking at but there will be no evidence to confirm, is that the local District Inspector, McHugh, a catholic, who mixed socially with a lot of UVF Officers never names them in reports when the RIC are looking for information. It is not that he didnt know what they were, so he deliberately keeps quiet? He lived in a very nice street where lots of businessmen were, so had a good standard of living. I suppose the thought of the unknown in Home Rule may have made men like him think about where they were best off.

I was once offered the private diary of one of the Derry City 1920 IRA commanders from a book dealer, but at the time couldn't see it's worth. Believe me I kick myself now. I think he was called Peter Doherty.

Interesting aside, when Michael O'Leary Won the VC the UVF HQ gave him a donation of £25 from central funds. It's listed on their 'outgoings'. 15th March 1915.

Rob

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Dublin men and the Ulster Covenant is one of many "in progress" projects so more may turn up.

The PRONI have a small number of UVF Nursing Corps photos in their collection :

http://www.proni.gov.uk/guide_to_sources_for_womens_history_-_may_2013.pdf

This one is of interest as a result of this thread

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/LL_DCAL_PRONI_ECATNI/ResultDetails.aspx

but I can't ever see myself heading to the PRONI to take a look.

Will keep an eye out for any info re INV/IV nursing photos in the meantime.

Posted

Johnny,

That link had 'timed out', was it an actual photo.

I spent a lot of time in PRONI last year, got to know the staff well, always useful!!! The one thing I found is lots of stuff hidden in files not logged as holding them, so you have to go off on strange tangents but some great stuff hasn't been out of the boxes for years. Found a big old UVF photo. A friend who is one of the most knowledgeable I know on the PRONI records, has kept his own logs of records and literally goes in every few weeks had never seen it before.

Lovely detail on it with unusual armbands. I found loads of UVF security letters giving lots of good information.

Very little IV stuff though so not worth a visit if that's your research subject.

My grandmother's brother fought in Dublin. Was with the 12th Inniskillings, 36th Ulster Division reserve Btn. went down from Finner Camp in Donegal.

Captain Jack White's book 'Misfit' is a good read on those times from the Nationalist side.

Rob

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sorry about the timeout. No original photo unfortunately; just a catalogue entry for a photo which is labelled

"D.2160 c.1914 Photograph of UVF Nursing Corps exercise, possibly at Springhill, Moneymore, Co. Londonderry"

There are some other papers in the PRONI relating to the Lenox-Conyngham family which would be interesting to delve into re WW1.

I've a fair collection of Easter Rising etc related books but haven't looked at White's Misfit. Will put it on the list to read.

Posted

I swopped my original copy of Misfit a few years ago, bit of a mistake as it went out of print, but after posting above I googled it and it's available again, so ordered a copy, arrived this morning.

Good book.

Rob

Posted

Terry

Thanks for the link.

Mark

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