HM Submarine E20 and the death of Stoker Darcy Dendy

[sadsac]

David. Here is the Submarine Service Record Card ;

RODGERS PERCIVAL HALL STO 1 P/K 2482 NE RN 050191 111113 DD

E20 051115 ADAMANT

JOINED RN 150409

SENIOR IN RATING 010410AGE 24

PORTSMOUTH 8 - 2 - 155

Killed in action with submarine in the Dardanelles.HMS ADAMANT.

ADM 188 / 871. N.P 6054 / 15.P.o.B ; Leeds, Yorks. Occ ; Fitter.

H.M. Submarine E.20 was torpedoed and sunk in the Sea of Marmora, Turkey by U-14.

You probably have all of that - but !!

Sadsac

[Guest]

Hi guys. (newby-allert!)

I am in the process of building a site for all of the casualties on the War Memorial at Darlaston, Staffs.

There are 5 WWI sailors one of whom, Harry Standford, was on E 20.

https://blockall.wordpress.com/2014/05/11/standford-harry-r-n/

Any additional pics or info will be very welcome.

Great forum.

[sadsac]

Hello `Newby'. Great work you (& others ??) are doing re commemorating those on local Memorial.

STANDFORD Harry ???? I have STANFORD Harry ???? D/K 9865 - makes him Devonport rating.

Find below Submarine Record Card as I have.

STANFORD HARRY ALBERT STO 1 D/K 9865 NE RN SM E.20

05.11.15 Z 24 180791 C F

PLYMOUTH 7 PLYMOUTH 2 - 116

Killed in action with submarine in the Dardanelles.HMS ADAMANT.

ADM 188 / 886. NP 6054 / 15.P.o.B ; Darleston, Staffs. Occ ; Iron Worker.

H.M. Submarine E.20 was torpedoed and sunk in the Sea of Marmora, Turkey by U-14.

HMS Vivid II….180111 – 120511.

HMS Argyle….130511 – 020614.

HMS Forth….030614 – 200614.

HMS Dolphin….010714 – 051114.

HMS Maidstone….061114 – 200715.

HMS E20….210715 – 051115.

E 20 was a submarine, built by Vickers at Barrow she was commissioned on 30th August 1915.

Sunk on the 5th November the same year as the result of a tragic mistake on the part of a French Captain. The French submarine Turquoise was captured by the Turks in the Sea of Marmara with a complete set of allied codes intact, including the date, place and time of a meeting with HMS E20. Instead of the French sub turning up the German UB 14 arrived and torpedoed HMS E20. Of her crew of 30 21 were killed.

Full confirmation of name may be had by checking PRO/NA file No. ADM 188 / 886 - at least that is what the RN have his name as - families sometimes differ ?? PRO & `Register of Names' will confirm !!

Also note difference to your site in date of sinking of E.20 November not December 1915.

Sadsac

[Guest]

Thank you for the reply and correction, it is just 'yours truly' building the site which may account for the schoolboy errors on there. Graeme Clarke can attest to that.

The name does seem to be Stanford from checking other sources and what Ihave been told but it is Standford on the Memorial. I understand that it was pointed out at the unveiling in 1927 but as the names are on large bronze plaques there was not a lot that could be done about it.

Again thank you.

Off topic a little, in the 1911 census his younger brother, Richard Charles Stanford is, Boy 1st Class, HMS Victorious, Torquay. Was this the 1895 Battleship or was there some establishment at Torquay?

Or does this need to be placed elsewhere?

[davidmbrown]

Sonicsniper

I have sent you a message with my e-mail address again as I don't seem to have received anything. Will then happily send you anything I have on Percival Hall Rodgers.

Hope to hear soon.

David

[davidmbrown]

Thanks to Sadsac for the details of Percival Hall Rodgers service. I think I do know all of that but I am always grateful for any confirmation of what I think I know. I have a copy of his service record from the National Archives which I think would be ADM 188/871 as you quote. He married in 1909 before the war and had a daughter in 1913 and, although he didn't know it had 10 grandchildren so the lineage continues!

[E20tyke]

Hi all particularly Sonic Sniper

I have just come across this forum and I hope as a complete novice I can add value to the E20 research for others as well as adding greatly to my own family research.

My grandfather Signalman Henry Wilkinson Brown was killed when E20 went down. Fortunately his wife was carrying his unborn son at that time so today he has 29 direct descendants, of which I am one.

I have Henry's original record of service and this has allowed me to follow his postings from a Ganges boy sailor to E20 plus fill in some bits on E20's short life from launch to sinking. I presume ( Sonic Sniper) that you will probably have most of this.Also I have a photo of HWB, E20 at Barrow in Furnace plus two In Grand Harbour Malta. I have done a story of his life and service for work being done about individuals on our local memorials . He is remembered on two of them.

I am happy to share anything I have to add to the E20 story plus HWB's background. Internet research lists those who survived but I have nothing on the survivors or what happened to them.

[sadsac]

TYKE. You most probably have all of this, but this is his Submarine Service Record Card ;

BROWN HENRY WILKINSON SIGNALMAN D/J 7134 NE RN SM E.20 05.11.15 Z 22 050693 F

PLYMOUTH 6 PLYMOUTH 2 - 71

Husband of Elsie Briggs (Formerly Brown), of 5 Thornley Terrace, Peel St., Barnsley, Yorks.

Killed in action with submarine in the Dardanelles.HMS ADAMANT.

ADM 188 / 661. N.P 6054 / 15.P.o.B ; Barnsley, Yorks. Occ ; Engine Cleaner.

H.M. Submarine E.20 was torpedoed and sunk in the Sea of Marmora, Turkey by U-14.

Would be most interested (& believe other would) to see his FULL Record file if you have it.

Sadsac

[sonicsniper]

Hi E20tyke

Sorry for the delay in my reply.

It is great to hear from you and i would be very grate full for any and all information and pictures you have of her and her crew.

If it is possible would you send me and picture of your grandfather Henry Wilkinson Brown in uniform on his own.Did your grandmother get any medals that Henry Brown would have received, If yes can you let me know what they were or are.

As Sadsac has put it would be great to see his full service record.

Thank you for getting in touch and keep in touch.

Sonicsniper

[E20tyke]

Thanks for the replies and I'll work out the best may to share my info.

As for medals, there are 4 If I remember correctly but I do not have them personally so will chase upon which they are. Of course I do recall one was the large death medal.

[sonicsniper]

Thanks E20tyke

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sonic

[E20tyke]

Hi Sonic

I've sent some photos that hopefully you may find useful.

Tyke

[PFF]

EMS 20 Submarine picture {Crew{?}

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_E20.jpg

[Guest peterlymn]

Hi Mr G.

My grandfather was one of the survivors on E20 i have the full list of crew and a short history on each seaman.

If you have any info i could have would be great, or if i can send you what i have, You are more than welcome.

As far as pictures i only have the one in the docs. Also if anybody has any information of any of the crew or where the hospital and prison camps are i would really appreciate it all.

My Granddads name . Leading stoker fist class Joseph Embery.

Regards Sonic

Joseph Embery was my Grandmothers brother. I read on an earlier post that you had a photo of him. I would love a copy.

[Guest peterlymn]

EMBERY JOSEPH L STO P/K 13860 NE RN 140888 011014 was my Grandmothers brother and I would love to have a photo or any other information about him. I am new to this forum and note sure how to make contact with sonic sniper!

[sadsac]

Hello Peter. Find here your relations Submarine Service Card ;

EMBERY JOSEPH L STO P/K 13860 NE RN 140888 011014

SC 141001 DOLPHIN

E20 161022 MAIDSTONE DOLPHIN ADAMANT

POW 150000 TURKEY

SC 190101 DOLPHIN

DEMOBILISED 3.4.19

ACT LDG STO PRISONER 6/11/15

ADDRESS 48 AUCKLAND RD., CAMP HILL, BIRMINGHAM.

ADM 188 / 894

P.o.B ; WOLVERHAMPTON STAFFS

C S EXPIRES 270319 SENIOR IN RATING 120308

Please note ; dates are in `reverse order' - 141001 = 1 October 1914.

SC = Spare crew. POW = Prisoner of War.

Full Naval Service Record is in the ADM File at PRO/NA available `on-line' for £3.50.

Good Hunting,

Sadsac

[sonicsniper]

E20tyke

Sorry to say but i have not received the photos of the E20 in malta can you please send them me again.

Also did you find out about the 4 medal he had.

Regards

Roger

[PFF]

E-20 and picture of the crew

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_E20.jpg

[sonicsniper]

that photo is the same as on wikipedia.

But thank you for sending the picture.

Rog

[sadsac]

Hello Roger. Re PM. Here is record of Skipper E20 - as I have already posted in E20 SURVIVOURS Thread.

Find here details of Submarine Service of Lt.Cdr Warren ;

WARREN Clyfford Harris. LT CDR.

B.11. IN COMMAND. 1. 2.09. ONYX.

B.1. 1. 2.09. FORTH.

C.1. 8. 2.13. THAMES.

C.1. 16. 5.15. IN COMMAND.

Born 13.10.1885. Cdt 15.05.1900, Mid 30.09.1901, SubLt 30.11.1904,

Lt 30.11.1905, LtCdr 30.11.1913, Retired List 20.12.1920.

HMS Thames 14.05.1906 For submarine training

HMS Forth 25.02.1908 For command of submarine

HMS Onyx 01.02.1909 CO HMs/m B11

HMS Mercury 01.08.1910 CO HMs/m A12

General Service 12.01.1911 HMS Triumph

HMS Thames 08.02.1913 CO HMs/m C1

HMS Dolphin 01.07.1915 CO HMs/m E20

[Completing, Vickers]

05.11.1915 Prisoner of War

HMS Dolphin 01.12.1918 For submarine duties

HMS Royal Arthur 17.02.1919 In Command

HMS Pandora 14.01.1920 In Command

30.08.1915, HMS/m E20 completed, after trials she joined HMS Adamant with Special Service Flotilla 1 at Mudros.

06.11.1915, Having made its way through the Dardanelles to the Sea of Marmara to rendezvous with the French submarine Turquoise HMS/m E20 was sunk by torpedo from UB14 the rendezvous plans having been discovered when Turquoise was captured by the Turkish forces having run aground. There were only nine survivors from HMS/m E20 including the Commanding Officer.

27.12.1939, WW2 service, HMS Lynx.

12.03.1940, HMS Claverhouse

05.11.1941, HMS Tedworth

15.12.1941, During December he returned to the Retired List probably on health grounds.

AWARDS. Member of the Order of the British Empire

No idea of his life after leaving RN. Perhaps an Obit in The Times / other Paper may supply some family connection.

Sadsac

[sonicsniper]

Thank you for that info

Regards

Roger

[E20tyke]

Just a thought for contemplation for those of you that have contributed to this site.

Tomorrow will be exactly 100yrs since E20 was sunk.

I will be visiting my local memorial with a small group to remember my grandfather and the whole crew of the E20.

[submarine]

That is such a wonderful thought to remember the crew of E20 . Good luck and my thoughts will be with you .

Colin

[Ilona]

Hello,

My name is Ilona, I'm a school teacher. I would to share some information with you all that I came across yesterday. I'm currently on holiday and came across an old log book that belonged to Lt Cdr C.H. Warren dating from 1903-1904. He was on a few ships during this period - HMS Albion, HMS Fearless and HMS Cressy. He may have been on others, I didn't have the time to look and read through all the pages. The log book was meticulously kept with superb water colour paintings, line drawings of equipments and maps around 'Nippon' which I believe is Japan. The log book shows daily logs of what was happening, weather conditions, installations of equipment. Also included are beautiful contoured line drawings mapping the seabed around this region. 

This is the first time I have come across a book that fascinated me, i had no idea who this person was or what he did. I went back to my room in the evening and started researching. Well, by 3:00am in the morning, I discovered so much more. I just knew in my heart that after I read and looked at Lt Cdr C.H Warren's work, that here is a man who was extremely talented, intelligent, caring and meticulous for detail. 

I hope this helps, the log book definitely proves he was at this rank on these ships and at sea during 1903-1904.

Despite not knowing anything about this man, I feel he was a hero, an unsung hero. There should be a film made about him, especially the unfortunate incident with his submarine HMS E20. I would love to know more about him, was he married, children, etc.. Any photos of him and him on his ships and submarines. His interests, education, what did he do after retiring from service, when did he passed away, etc... So many questions. I'm so excited and intrigued by my stumbling across the log book and consequent research.

If anyone could help with the above I would be very grateful. Im also happy to give further help to any queries too.

Many thanks &

Kind regards,

Ilona

Edited 19 August , 2016 by Ilona

[Ilona]

On 13 March 2015 at 18:30, sadsac said:

Hello Roger. Re PM. Here is record of Skipper E20 - as I have already posted in E20 SURVIVOURS Thread.

Find here details of Submarine Service of Lt.Cdr Warren ;

WARREN Clyfford Harris. LT CDR.

B.11. IN COMMAND. 1. 2.09. ONYX.

B.1. 1. 2.09. FORTH.

C.1. 8. 2.13. THAMES.

C.1. 16. 5.15. IN COMMAND.

Born 13.10.1885. Cdt 15.05.1900, Mid 30.09.1901, SubLt 30.11.1904,

Lt 30.11.1905, LtCdr 30.11.1913, Retired List 20.12.1920.

HMS Thames 14.05.1906 For submarine training

HMS Forth 25.02.1908 For command of submarine

HMS Onyx 01.02.1909 CO HMs/m B11

HMS Mercury 01.08.1910 CO HMs/m A12

General Service 12.01.1911 HMS Triumph

HMS Thames 08.02.1913 CO HMs/m C1

HMS Dolphin 01.07.1915 CO HMs/m E20

[Completing, Vickers]

05.11.1915 Prisoner of War

HMS Dolphin 01.12.1918 For submarine duties

HMS Royal Arthur 17.02.1919 In Command

HMS Pandora 14.01.1920 In Command

30.08.1915, HMS/m E20 completed, after trials she joined HMS Adamant with Special Service Flotilla 1 at Mudros.

06.11.1915, Having made its way through the Dardanelles to the Sea of Marmara to rendezvous with the French submarine Turquoise HMS/m E20 was sunk by torpedo from UB14 the rendezvous plans having been discovered when Turquoise was captured by the Turkish forces having run aground. There were only nine survivors from HMS/m E20 including the Commanding Officer.

27.12.1939, WW2 service, HMS Lynx.

12.03.1940, HMS Claverhouse

05.11.1941, HMS Tedworth

15.12.1941, During December he returned to the Retired List probably on health grounds.

AWARDS. Member of the Order of the British Empire

No idea of his life after leaving RN. Perhaps an Obit in The Times / other Paper may supply some family connection.

Sadsac

Hi,

I am new to the forum, I have posted information on Lt. Cdr C.H. Warren below. Could you please reply at your earliest convenience. 

Many thanks,

Ilona