Mtoddl12 Posted 15 January , 2019 Share Posted 15 January , 2019 Sorry if this gets posted twice, not sure the first attempt worked. I have an old what i believe to be a WW2 Germany Bayonet, but the marking are not like any that i can find and i am hoping i can get some help from you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trajan Posted 16 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2019 Welcome to GWF! Yes, this is a WW 2 piece, with "bakelite" grips - note the "Waffnamt" stamps on the pommel, characteristic mumbers, etc., with a mis-matched scabbard. Best to look around a WW2 site for this as I will get my wrists slapped if I do all the marks! Try Gunboards Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoddl12 Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 Trajan, I appreciate you kind sir!! I will take your guidance and i am enjoying this forum so far!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 15 hours ago, trajan said: Welcome to GWF! Yes, this is a WW 2 piece, with "bakelite" grips - note the "Waffnamt" stamps on the pommel, characteristic mumbers, etc., with a mis-matched scabbard. Best to look around a WW2 site for this as I will get my wrists slapped if I do all the marks! Try Gunboards Forum absolutely correct as usual, dear julian regards, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 18 January , 2019 Share Posted 18 January , 2019 (edited) Any idea about F.M.G.Z.xxx ?? Stamped on 84/98 n.A.S. Abg W15 Only Z mark I know is for Zug ( Lazarett), and looks no sense here. Edited 19 January , 2019 by Gernika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 19 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 January , 2019 8 hours ago, Gernika said: Any idea about F.M.G.Z.xxx ?? Stamped on 84/98 n.A.S. Abg W15 Only Z mark I know is for Zug ( Lazarett), and looks no sense here. Can we have a photograph please? Might be "Festungs.Masc.Gew. Zug" with Zug for a platoon - although these Festungs.Masc.Gew. marks are usually in the form of "F.M.G.A. XXX", for Festungs.Masc.Gew.Abteilung. OR, even Flak Masc.Gew. Zug.? See, e.g., the discussion at: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/207144-any-comments-on-this-german-marking/?tab=comments#comment-2040883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 19 January , 2019 Share Posted 19 January , 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, trajan said: Can we have a photograph please? Might be "Festungs.Masc.Gew. Zug" with Zug for a platoon - although these Festungs.Masc.Gew. marks are usually in the form of "F.M.G.A. XXX", for Festungs.Masc.Gew.Abteilung. OR, even Flak Masc.Gew. Zug.? See, e.g., the discussion at: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/207144-any-comments-on-this-german-marking/?tab=comments#comment-2040883 Hello! Do we have a number? Festung MG normally only had Abteilungen, Trupps and companies. There were only a few Züge (plural of "Zug") I´d say, it´s a "Feld-MG-Zug". There were numbers 1-330 and bavarian 1-38. These Züge later formed the MG-Abteilungen of the infantry-regiments. https://www.militaria.at/Book.aspx?book=17888640&Language=de Edited 19 January , 2019 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 19 January , 2019 Share Posted 19 January , 2019 Number was 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 January , 2019 Share Posted 19 January , 2019 1 hour ago, The Prussian said: Hello! Do we have a number? Festung MG normally only had Abteilungen, Trupps and companies. There were only a few Züge (plural of "Zug") I´d say, it´s a "Feld-MG-Zug". There were numbers 1-330 and bavarian 1-38. These Züge later formed the MG-Abteilungen of the infantry-regiments. https://www.militaria.at/Book.aspx?book=17888640&Language=de I agree absolutely with the opinion of PRUSSIAN. Here are some similar unit markings with Gernika's unit marking, from my collection. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 19 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 January , 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Prussian said: ... I´d say, it´s a "Feld-MG-Zug". There were numbers 1-330 and bavarian 1-38. These Züge later formed the MG-Abteilungen of the infantry-regiments. https://www.militaria.at/Book.aspx?book=17888640&Language=de 26 minutes ago, Gernika said: Number was 120. 10 minutes ago, zuluwar2006 said: I agree absolutely with the opinion of PRUSSIAN. Here are some similar unit markings with Gernika's unit marking, from my collection. "I stand corrected", as they say, following - according to Wikipdia - the example set by John Dryden in The Maiden Queen (1668)... That 3-digit number clinches it really... Gernika, where possible when making a query, let us have all the information about the mark and if possible a photograph - makes things easier Edited 19 January , 2019 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 19 January , 2019 Share Posted 19 January , 2019 3 hours ago, trajan said: "I stand corrected", as they say, following - according to Wikipdia - the example set by John Dryden in The Maiden Queen (1668)... That 3-digit number clinches it really... Gernika, where possible when making a query, let us have all the information about the mark and if possible a photograph - makes things easier Yes, I know but still not allowed by owner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 19 January , 2019 Share Posted 19 January , 2019 Hello! 120 sould be Feld-MG-Zug 120. Formed Feb.25, 1915 by MG-school Döberitz. Until february 1916 it belonged to Inf.Rgt.79 an joined later 1.MG-comp./Inf.Rgt.79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 19 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 January , 2019 2 hours ago, Gernika said: Yes, I know but still not allowed by owner.... OK, got you there... 2 hours ago, The Prussian said: Hello! 120 sould be Feld-MG-Zug 120. Formed Feb.25, 1915 by MG-school Döberitz. Until february 1916 it belonged to Inf.Rgt.79 an joined later 1.MG-comp./Inf.Rgt.79 Thanks Andy. So, one of the first units to be issued with the new 84/98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 On 11/09/2016 at 08:21, motojosh said: A few new ones... 84/98nA (W15 Erfurt) with rare marking to the Bavarian 3rd Pionier-Bataillon. s98nA (W06 WKC) with cancelled out marking to the 144th Infanterie Regiment and then reissued to the 213th Reserve Infanterie Regiment which was formed after mobilization in August 1914. Motojosh I love the unit marking on this 84/98 bayonet... Very rare and nice unit marking. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 26 January , 2019 Share Posted 26 January , 2019 Still travelling hope at home very soon. I’ll insert complete pic report. Here is a preview of my new S98 n.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 2 February , 2019 Share Posted 2 February , 2019 Just arrived. Its my first Wurternburg bayonet. Not outstanding but nice matching regimental stamps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 5 February , 2019 Share Posted 5 February , 2019 S84/98 n. A. s Abg ERFURT W15 F.M.G.K.282.16 16 in lower size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 5 February , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 February , 2019 And the point rounded also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 5 February , 2019 Share Posted 5 February , 2019 Yes lost a bit. thats lot of war ! Condition as you can see, but priced low, and MG unit stamp are ever welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 5 February , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 February , 2019 Oh I wouldn't complain! I have one of these S84/98 n. A. s Abg. but have never yet found a 98/05 s.Abg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 5 February , 2019 Share Posted 5 February , 2019 5 hours ago, trajan said: Oh I wouldn't complain! I have one of these S84/98 n. A. s Abg. but have never yet found a 98/05 s.Abg... You will find one very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 11 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2019 Nicely-marked 71/84 a.A. at: https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?1091887-Mauser-84-98-bayonet-regiment-markings-and-value for Infanterie-Regiment Bremen (1. Hanseatisches) Nr.75. 3.170. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motojosh Posted 7 June , 2019 Share Posted 7 June , 2019 On 24/01/2019 at 06:31, zuluwar2006 said: Motojosh I love the unit marking on this 84/98 bayonet... Very rare and nice unit marking. Regards D. Thank you! 84/98 with Bavarian unit markings are very tough to find. Here's another rare one on a 15' Erfurt. 3rd Bavarian Chevauleger-Regiment 1st Eskadron Weapon #325. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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