Steven Broomfield Posted 19 March , 2014 Share Posted 19 March , 2014 I had a flier some while ago about this, and today there was a post on FB about it. I had a quick Google and it's available from Amazon ... at a price equating to several arms, a couple of legs and possibly an expensive divorce lawyer. Has anyone seen it? Is it worth the endless discussion with Mrs Broomfield? I am very sorely tempted. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maharajas-Paltans-History-Indian-1888-1948/dp/8173048886 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 19 March , 2014 Share Posted 19 March , 2014 There is some additional information about the two volume set on this link from an Indian distributor. http://kkagencies.com/index.php?p=sr&Uc=39591611124618044923 I just looked on Abebooks where there were entries for this book for sale.There was one entry which was much cheaper than the Amazon price above. Also Amazon.com has some cheaper prices Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushfighter Posted 21 March , 2014 Share Posted 21 March , 2014 Broomers YES - I have just returned from India with this massive 2-Volume tome. Even the tiniest of the Princely States have been well-researched and illustrated on a total of 1081 A4-sized pages. The surviving author can be justifiably proud. I am particularly pleased to see all awards & decorations listed. We will not see anything better in our lifetime. BUY! Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 21 March , 2014 Author Share Posted 21 March , 2014 Thanks Harry. I'll pas this on to Mrs Broomfield with your compliments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 27 March , 2014 Author Share Posted 27 March , 2014 Oh my word! I am working from home today and my copy has arrived. It is splendid and I cosole myself with the thought that £195 spent today has purchased not only an unmissable book, but one that is obviously an appreciating asset. Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgranger Posted 27 March , 2014 Share Posted 27 March , 2014 Thank (insert deity of your choice) it was worth the money! But tell, pray, what is a paltan? I can't find a definition of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 27 March , 2014 Author Share Posted 27 March , 2014 Blast: Hobson Jobson has gone into hiding. Never mind: I believe it is the word from which "platoon" is derived and basically refers to a military unit. Hindustani, probably. If I find HJ I'll check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 27 March , 2014 Share Posted 27 March , 2014 Thought that platoon originated from the the French Peleton - 17th century or thereabouts. According to one source Paltan derived from platoon circuitously apparently from where the East India Company cantonments were located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 27 March , 2014 Author Share Posted 27 March , 2014 A lot of words we use (in and out of a military context) derive by a roundabout route This thread, from a few years ago, discusses, amongst other things, "Sepoy", "Spahi", etc ...http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95389&hl=sipahi#entry891898 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 28 March , 2014 Share Posted 28 March , 2014 OED has this for 'Platoon': "Etymology: < French peloton little ball, especially of thread (1417 in Middle French), small body of soldiers (1616), group of competitors in cycling (1884; 1855 in a sporting event in general) < pelote (see pellet n.1) + -on (see -oon suffix). With sense 1acompare earlier platoon n. and also Spanish pelotón (1737 or earlier in this sense)." And for the date of use has this: "1702 Mil. Dict. s.v, Peloton, vide Platoon. 1744 N. Tindal Contin. Rapin's Hist. Eng. III. 209/1 Before he suffered any peloton of his battalion to discharge." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgranger Posted 28 March , 2014 Share Posted 28 March , 2014 Apologies for not acknolwdging the reply to my question, only just got back to the thread. i did think I saw an echo of 'platoon' in the word, so it's interesting how this might have been the origin of 'paltan' rather than the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 29 March , 2014 Share Posted 29 March , 2014 Page 7 from The Sikh Army 1799-1849 by Ian Heath says palatan (singular paltan) is a corruption of the French word peloton and related to the foreign origins of the troops of Maharaja Rangit Singh http://books.google.com/books?id=YIh9eQlojGsC&pg=PA7 Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 24 November , 2015 Share Posted 24 November , 2015 I was recently checking the link in post 2 for the contents of this book. I'm copying the contents, in the event the link disappears. Contents The Maharajas' Paltans: A History of the Indian State Forces 1888-1948 Volume 1 Foreword / Field Marshal Sir Chapple GCBC CBE DL Message / Brigadier (Retd.) Sukhjit Singh, MVC, The Scinde Horse Preface 1. An Historical Overview 2. Subsidiary and Contingent Forces 3. Introduction of the Imperial Service Troops Scheme 4. The Indian State Forces Scheme 5. Indian State Forces Composite Units 6. Officers and other Ranks 7. Indian Army Units Raised from the Indian States 8. Integration on Independence 9. Alirajpur 10. Alwar 11. Bahawalpur 12. Baria 13. Baroda 14. Benares 15. Bharatpur 16. Bhavnagar 17. Bhopal 18. Bikaner 19. Chamba 20. Cochin 21. Cooch Behar 22. Cutch 23. Datia 24. Dewas (Senior) 25. Dhar 26. Dholpur 27. Dhrangadhra 28. Faridkot 29. Gwalior 30. Hyderabad 31. Idar 32. Indore 33. Jaipur 34. Jammu & Kashmir 35. Janjira 36. Jind 37. Jodhpur 38. Junagadh 39. Kapurthala 40. Khairpur 41. Kolhapur 42. Kotah 43. Limbdi 44. Loharu 45. Lunawada Volume 2 46. Malerkotla 47. Mandi 48. Mewar (Udaipur) 49. Mudhol 50. Mysore 51. Nabha 52. Nawanagar 53. Palanpur 54. Panna 55. Patiala 56. Porbandar 57. Rajpipla 58. Rampur 59. Ratlam 60. Rewa 61. Sachin 62. Sirmoor 63. Suket 64. Tehri-Garhwal 65. Travancore 66. Tripura 67. Miscellaneous Non-ISF States/Estates Maps Colour Plates Appendices Glossary Bibliography Index Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 November , 2015 Share Posted 24 November , 2015 Ref the earlier discussion on the meaning of Paltan..... Paltan means Regiment. In the Gurkhas at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 23 March , 2019 Share Posted 23 March , 2019 There has been a book recently published For the Honour of My House: The Contribution of the Indian Princely States to the First World War by Tony McClenaghan, who was co-author of the above book. I have made a separate post about it Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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