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Lieutenant Lee S. Tolerton 6th Batt Royal Irish, killed Gallipoli 1915

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Clarissabell

I am searching for any information on Lieutenant Lee S. Tolerton, 6th Royal Irish Regiment, killed in Gallipoli, August 1915.

Born 19/01/1891. Went to school in Dublin , 1908-1909. Address: 203 Gt. Brunswick St, Dublin

Any help obtaining information about this soldier would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, Clarissa.

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museumtom
Listed in the CWGC and ODGW as Lee Tolerton. Dublin Samuel Lee Tolerton Lieutenant Royal Irish Fusiliers 6th Battalion 15/08/1915 23 Tyrone Dublin Killed in action Limerick Chronicle, September, 1915. Lieutenant Lee Tolerton, 6th Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers, who was previously reported wounded, is now reported killed at the Dardanelles. Lieutenant Tolerton was appointed to the rank of Lieutenant on February 1st, 1915. he was the younger son of the late Mrs Tolerton, Secretary to the Philanthropic Reform Association, Dublin. Panel 170 to 180. Helles Memorial in Turkey

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kenmorrison

Robert H. Tolerton, 23 (Head of the family) and his brother S. Lee Tolerton, 19, both undergraduates at Trinity College, Dublin and both born in Tyrone, are listed on the 1911 census at 203 Brunswick Street, Great, Dublin. There are also two servants.

In 1901 Robert Hill Tolerton, 13 (b. Co Tyrone) and Samuel Lee Tolerton, 9 (b. Co. Antrim) were pupils at what appears to be a school at William Street, Waterford.

(Newton Boarding School in Dunmore Road)

Ken

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Clarissabell

Thanks guys - can anyone make out what this section of his MIC says?

Cheers,

Clarissa.

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museumtom

Looks like Mr R H Tolerton, Minister for Transport applied for the medals. Officers were not automatically sent medals, they had to apply for them as far as I know.

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Clarissabell

Is see that another soldier, who attended the same school, at the same time, was also part of the Royal Irish Regiment. they probably knew each other. It seems that they died on the same day, or possibly one day apart. Both went to Trinity College, Dublin. Does anyone know if they would have all traveled out to Turkey together, as part of a special 'Irish/ Trinity' group? So many of the past pupils from their school died in Gallipoli.

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Clarissabell

Looks like Mr R H Tolerton, Minister for Transport applied for the medals. Officers were not automatically sent medals, they had to apply for them as far as I know.

Was his father the Minister for Transport? Or did he apply for the medals through the Ministry for Transport?? The latter doesn't seem to make sense... thanks Tom!

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museumtom

From http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Result/showdwnld?_q=MT%2062&_ps=30&_cp=5

Private Office Papers. Rt. Hon. Lord Leathers. "Shipping on the Cape route": report of mission by C.E. Wurtzburg and R. H. Tolerton, Ministry of War Transport representatives.

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Clarissabell

From http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Result/showdwnld?_q=MT%2062&_ps=30&_cp=5

Private Office Papers. Rt. Hon. Lord Leathers. "Shipping on the Cape route": report of mission by C.E. Wurtzburg and R. H. Tolerton, Ministry of War Transport representatives.

Thanks Tom -so his brother had a job with the Ministry - which might explain how he survived the war. His medal card index has no Date of death... and another request for medals.

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The full text is: Appn by Mr R H Tolerton Mins of Transport thro USOS [undersecretary of State] for deceased officer's medals. 28/2/22.

That would seem as though his father was the Minister.

You might be interested in the name of the press officer at the bottom of this page: http://www.failteireland.ie/Utility/Media-Centre/Dublin-secures-hosting-of-world-youth-travel-event.aspx

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Clarissabell

The full text is: Appn by Mr R H Tolerton Mins of Transport thro USOS [undersecretary of State] for deceased officer's medals. 28/2/22.

That would seem as though his father was the Minister.

You might be interested in the name of the press officer at the bottom of this page: http://www.failteireland.ie/Utility/Media-Centre/Dublin-secures-hosting-of-world-youth-travel-event.aspx

SPOF - You are a gem! :-)

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Clarissabell

The full text is: Appn by Mr R H Tolerton Mins of Transport thro USOS [undersecretary of State] for deceased officer's medals. 28/2/22.

That would seem as though his father was the Minister.

You might be interested in the name of the press officer at the bottom of this page: http://www.failteireland.ie/Utility/Media-Centre/Dublin-secures-hosting-of-world-youth-travel-event.aspx

It seems the R.H. Tolerton also saw some active service... in the London battalion...

http://ww1wardiaries.wordpress.com/

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kenmorrison

Thanks Tom -so his brother had a job with the Ministry - which might explain how he survived the war. His medal card index has no Date of death... and another request for medals.

It seems the R.H. Tolerton also saw some active service... in the London battalion...

http://ww1wardiaries.wordpress.com/

He certainly did, the national Archives has a biography (On-line) for

Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Robert Tolerton CB CBE DSO MC

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=062-rht&cid=0#0

There is a medal card for Robert Hill Tolerton, London Regiment. Lt and Lt Col.

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kenmorrison

He has numerous mentions in the London Gazette including the citation for his Military Cross

Date: 14 August 1917 Issue number: 30234 Page number: 8385

Capt. Robert Hill Tolerton, Lond. R.

For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to

•duty. Although wounded, he showed great

courage in leading his battalion in an attack.

After the final objective had been reached

he was foremost in arranging all details of

consolidation and defence, setting a

splendid example of energy and apility to

all ranks.

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Clarissabell

He has numerous mentions in the London Gazette including the citation for his Military Cross

Date: 14 August 1917 Issue number: 30234 Page number: 8385

Capt. Robert Hill Tolerton, Lond. R.

For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to

•duty. Although wounded, he showed great

courage in leading his battalion in an attack.

After the final objective had been reached

he was foremost in arranging all details of

consolidation and defence, setting a

splendid example of energy and apility to

all ranks.

He sounds like a great man. I wish I could get my hands on the letters that he wrote around Aug 15th 1915, when his brother died. Do you have to go to Kew to get those? He wrote so many letters - clearly a man who felt comfortable with a pen/pencil in his hand.

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Clarissa

From the link provided by Ken, those letters are held by the Imperial War Museum in London which is probably no more help than if they were in Kew.

He also gets a credit for the compilation and several mentions in the history of the 23rd London Regiment "23rd London Regiment 1798-1919"

On 4th April 1918, he was by now a Major and took command of the battalion which was about 350 strong and on the same day went into the line to relieve the 22nd Bn London Regiment. The Germans attacked the next day and at 1pm Major Tolerton was wounded and had to go back.

On 1 May 1918 the 23rd relieved the 20th Australian Bn in front of Henencourt. "On this date Major Tolerton, who had been wounded in action at Aveluy Wood, returned from hospital to duty and assumed command of the battalion in the trenches"

Glen

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Clarissabell

Clarissa

From the link provided by Ken, those letters are held by the Imperial War Museum in London which is probably no more help than if they were in Kew.

He also gets a credit for the compilation and several mentions in the history of the 23rd London Regiment "23rd London Regiment 1798-1919"

On 4th April 1918, he was by now a Major and took command of the battalion which was about 350 strong and on the same day went into the line to relieve the 22nd Bn London Regiment. The Germans attacked the next day and at 1pm Major Tolerton was wounded and had to go back.

On 1 May 1918 the 23rd relieved the 20th Australian Bn in front of Henencourt. "On this date Major Tolerton, who had been wounded in action at Aveluy Wood, returned from hospital to duty and assumed command of the battalion in the trenches"

What an incredible record. He seems unstoppable. Thanks for all the information. Such a pity about those letters... digitalisation of all the military archives cannot come quick enough.

Glen

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Michael Pegum

http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/showMemorial.php?show=90

Lieutenant Samuel Lee Tolerton's name is on the Irish War Memorial page - Solicitors� Memorial, Dublin 07, Four Courts- So he was studying law, or he was a solicitor.

He is on the memorial for solicitors' apprentices. I take this to mean that he was studying to be a solicitor.

Michael

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Clarissabell

He is on the memorial for solicitors' apprentices. I take this to mean that he was studying to be a solicitor.

Michael

Thanks Michael - only seeing your post now!

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Wesley Wright

Lee Tolerton is commemorated on Dungannon War Memorial (Co.Tyrone)

Wesley Wright

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AndyR

Hi

2nd Lt Lee Tolerton was killed in the attack along Kiretch Tepe Sirt - there is a poignant account of this action in Cooper' 10th Irish (https://archive.org/details/tenthirishdivisi00cooprich - see pages 161-180 and particularly 170 & 177 mention the 6RIF) which also lists the officer casualties (see page 260)

Andy

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Clarissabell

Thanks a million Andy - will certainly check it out.

Regards, C.

Hi

2nd Lt Lee Tolerton was killed in the attack along Kiretch Tepe Sirt - there is a poignant account of this action in Cooper' 10th Irish (https://archive.org/details/tenthirishdivisi00cooprich - see pages 161-180 and particularly 170 & 177 mention the 6RIF) which also lists the officer casualties (see page 260)

Andy


Lee Tolerton is commemorated on Dungannon War Memorial (Co.Tyrone)

Wesley Wright

Thanks for that information Wesley. I will have to stop and have a look next time I am passing.

Regards, C.

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gethine45

Both brothers were brought up as Quakers. Newtown School, Waterford was a Quaker School its status now I am not sure about. Robert Hill worked in the MInistry of Transport was was a highly placed civil servant.

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Clarissabell

Thanks for that information

gethine45

Regards, Michelle

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