Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 I am searching for any information on Lieutenant Lee S. Tolerton, 6th Royal Irish Regiment, killed in Gallipoli, August 1915. Born 19/01/1891. Went to school in Dublin , 1908-1909. Address: 203 Gt. Brunswick St, Dublin Any help obtaining information about this soldier would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Clarissa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Listed in the CWGC and ODGW as Lee Tolerton. Dublin Samuel Lee Tolerton Lieutenant Royal Irish Fusiliers 6th Battalion 15/08/1915 23 Tyrone Dublin Killed in action Limerick Chronicle, September, 1915. Lieutenant Lee Tolerton, 6th Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers, who was previously reported wounded, is now reported killed at the Dardanelles. Lieutenant Tolerton was appointed to the rank of Lieutenant on February 1st, 1915. he was the younger son of the late Mrs Tolerton, Secretary to the Philanthropic Reform Association, Dublin. Panel 170 to 180. Helles Memorial in Turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Robert H. Tolerton, 23 (Head of the family) and his brother S. Lee Tolerton, 19, both undergraduates at Trinity College, Dublin and both born in Tyrone, are listed on the 1911 census at 203 Brunswick Street, Great, Dublin. There are also two servants. In 1901 Robert Hill Tolerton, 13 (b. Co Tyrone) and Samuel Lee Tolerton, 9 (b. Co. Antrim) were pupils at what appears to be a school at William Street, Waterford. (Newton Boarding School in Dunmore Road) Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Thanks guys - can anyone make out what this section of his MIC says? Cheers, Clarissa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Looks like Mr R H Tolerton, Minister for Transport applied for the medals. Officers were not automatically sent medals, they had to apply for them as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Is see that another soldier, who attended the same school, at the same time, was also part of the Royal Irish Regiment. they probably knew each other. It seems that they died on the same day, or possibly one day apart. Both went to Trinity College, Dublin. Does anyone know if they would have all traveled out to Turkey together, as part of a special 'Irish/ Trinity' group? So many of the past pupils from their school died in Gallipoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Looks like Mr R H Tolerton, Minister for Transport applied for the medals. Officers were not automatically sent medals, they had to apply for them as far as I know. Was his father the Minister for Transport? Or did he apply for the medals through the Ministry for Transport?? The latter doesn't seem to make sense... thanks Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 From http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Result/showdwnld?_q=MT%2062&_ps=30&_cp=5 Private Office Papers. Rt. Hon. Lord Leathers. "Shipping on the Cape route": report of mission by C.E. Wurtzburg and R. H. Tolerton, Ministry of War Transport representatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 From http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Result/showdwnld?_q=MT%2062&_ps=30&_cp=5 Private Office Papers. Rt. Hon. Lord Leathers. "Shipping on the Cape route": report of mission by C.E. Wurtzburg and R. H. Tolerton, Ministry of War Transport representatives. Thanks Tom -so his brother had a job with the Ministry - which might explain how he survived the war. His medal card index has no Date of death... and another request for medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 7 February , 2014 Admin Share Posted 7 February , 2014 The full text is: Appn by Mr R H Tolerton Mins of Transport thro USOS [undersecretary of State] for deceased officer's medals. 28/2/22.That would seem as though his father was the Minister. You might be interested in the name of the press officer at the bottom of this page: http://www.failteireland.ie/Utility/Media-Centre/Dublin-secures-hosting-of-world-youth-travel-event.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 The full text is: Appn by Mr R H Tolerton Mins of Transport thro USOS [undersecretary of State] for deceased officer's medals. 28/2/22. That would seem as though his father was the Minister. You might be interested in the name of the press officer at the bottom of this page: http://www.failteireland.ie/Utility/Media-Centre/Dublin-secures-hosting-of-world-youth-travel-event.aspx SPOF - You are a gem! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 The full text is: Appn by Mr R H Tolerton Mins of Transport thro USOS [undersecretary of State] for deceased officer's medals. 28/2/22. That would seem as though his father was the Minister. You might be interested in the name of the press officer at the bottom of this page: http://www.failteireland.ie/Utility/Media-Centre/Dublin-secures-hosting-of-world-youth-travel-event.aspx It seems the R.H. Tolerton also saw some active service... in the London battalion... http://ww1wardiaries.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Thanks Tom -so his brother had a job with the Ministry - which might explain how he survived the war. His medal card index has no Date of death... and another request for medals. It seems the R.H. Tolerton also saw some active service... in the London battalion... http://ww1wardiaries.wordpress.com/ He certainly did, the national Archives has a biography (On-line) for Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Robert Tolerton CB CBE DSO MChttp://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=062-rht&cid=0#0 There is a medal card for Robert Hill Tolerton, London Regiment. Lt and Lt Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 He has numerous mentions in the London Gazette including the citation for his Military Cross Date: 14 August 1917 Issue number: 30234 Page number: 8385 Capt. Robert Hill Tolerton, Lond. R. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to •duty. Although wounded, he showed great courage in leading his battalion in an attack. After the final objective had been reached he was foremost in arranging all details of consolidation and defence, setting a splendid example of energy and apility to all ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 He has numerous mentions in the London Gazette including the citation for his Military Cross Date: 14 August 1917 Issue number: 30234 Page number: 8385 Capt. Robert Hill Tolerton, Lond. R. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to •duty. Although wounded, he showed great courage in leading his battalion in an attack. After the final objective had been reached he was foremost in arranging all details of consolidation and defence, setting a splendid example of energy and apility to all ranks. He sounds like a great man. I wish I could get my hands on the letters that he wrote around Aug 15th 1915, when his brother died. Do you have to go to Kew to get those? He wrote so many letters - clearly a man who felt comfortable with a pen/pencil in his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 7 February , 2014 Admin Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Clarissa From the link provided by Ken, those letters are held by the Imperial War Museum in London which is probably no more help than if they were in Kew. He also gets a credit for the compilation and several mentions in the history of the 23rd London Regiment "23rd London Regiment 1798-1919"On 4th April 1918, he was by now a Major and took command of the battalion which was about 350 strong and on the same day went into the line to relieve the 22nd Bn London Regiment. The Germans attacked the next day and at 1pm Major Tolerton was wounded and had to go back.On 1 May 1918 the 23rd relieved the 20th Australian Bn in front of Henencourt. "On this date Major Tolerton, who had been wounded in action at Aveluy Wood, returned from hospital to duty and assumed command of the battalion in the trenches" Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 Clarissa From the link provided by Ken, those letters are held by the Imperial War Museum in London which is probably no more help than if they were in Kew. He also gets a credit for the compilation and several mentions in the history of the 23rd London Regiment "23rd London Regiment 1798-1919" On 4th April 1918, he was by now a Major and took command of the battalion which was about 350 strong and on the same day went into the line to relieve the 22nd Bn London Regiment. The Germans attacked the next day and at 1pm Major Tolerton was wounded and had to go back. On 1 May 1918 the 23rd relieved the 20th Australian Bn in front of Henencourt. "On this date Major Tolerton, who had been wounded in action at Aveluy Wood, returned from hospital to duty and assumed command of the battalion in the trenches" What an incredible record. He seems unstoppable. Thanks for all the information. Such a pity about those letters... digitalisation of all the military archives cannot come quick enough. Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 7 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2014 http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/showMemorial.php?show=90 Lieutenant Samuel Lee Tolerton's name is on the Irish War Memorial page - Solicitors� Memorial, Dublin 07, Four Courts- So he was studying law, or he was a solicitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 21 February , 2014 Share Posted 21 February , 2014 http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/showMemorial.php?show=90 Lieutenant Samuel Lee Tolerton's name is on the Irish War Memorial page - Solicitors� Memorial, Dublin 07, Four Courts- So he was studying law, or he was a solicitor. He is on the memorial for solicitors' apprentices. I take this to mean that he was studying to be a solicitor. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 24 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 24 February , 2014 He is on the memorial for solicitors' apprentices. I take this to mean that he was studying to be a solicitor. Michael Thanks Michael - only seeing your post now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Wright Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 Lee Tolerton is commemorated on Dungannon War Memorial (Co.Tyrone) Wesley Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyR Posted 1 August , 2014 Share Posted 1 August , 2014 Hi 2nd Lt Lee Tolerton was killed in the attack along Kiretch Tepe Sirt - there is a poignant account of this action in Cooper' 10th Irish (https://archive.org/details/tenthirishdivisi00cooprich - see pages 161-180 and particularly 170 & 177 mention the 6RIF) which also lists the officer casualties (see page 260) Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 12 August , 2014 Author Share Posted 12 August , 2014 Thanks a million Andy - will certainly check it out. Regards, C. Hi 2nd Lt Lee Tolerton was killed in the attack along Kiretch Tepe Sirt - there is a poignant account of this action in Cooper' 10th Irish (https://archive.org/details/tenthirishdivisi00cooprich - see pages 161-180 and particularly 170 & 177 mention the 6RIF) which also lists the officer casualties (see page 260) Andy Lee Tolerton is commemorated on Dungannon War Memorial (Co.Tyrone) Wesley Wright Thanks for that information Wesley. I will have to stop and have a look next time I am passing. Regards, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethine45 Posted 19 November , 2015 Share Posted 19 November , 2015 Both brothers were brought up as Quakers. Newtown School, Waterford was a Quaker School its status now I am not sure about. Robert Hill worked in the MInistry of Transport was was a highly placed civil servant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarissabell Posted 31 March , 2016 Author Share Posted 31 March , 2016 Thanks for that information gethine45Regards, Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now