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Walter Bollands 150th Machine Gun Company on 11 Aug 1916 to 17 Sep


Paulboll

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My Grandfather Private 3570 Walter Bollands, was in ( I have his service record and WW1 Medal Rolls index cards )

5th Battalion Yorkshire Regiment, he moved to 150th Machine Gun Company on 11 Aug 1916 to 17 Sep 1916 when he was hit in the back by bullet or shell, wounded,

50th (Northumbrian) Division, 150th (York & Durham) Brigade, 150th Machine Gun Company

150th Machine Gun Company, formed 1 February 1916.

I have a couple of questions, Is there anyone else who had a relative (Grandfather Great Grandfather so on ) that served with the 150 machine Gun Company around this time,

if so would love her from you. Does anyone know any of the other men that were in this 5 man crew.

Do the War dairies indicated which battle he would have been wounded in?

Are there any experts on the machine Gun Company, would he have had specialist training to move into the machine Gun Company?

Note In WW2 he joined the Royal Artillery he maned the Bofors gun. ( Anti-Aircraft Gun)

Any help would be great.

I Did find John Henry Gardham, I think he would have been the Sergeant in charge of firing the machine gun, Walter could have been in his crew?

GARDHAM, JOHN HENRY Rank: Serjeant Service No: 23465 Date of Death: 04/10/1916 Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) 150th Coy. formerly 4th Bn. East Yorkshire Regiment Awards: D C M Grave Reference IV. J. 31. Cemetery HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L'ABBE

Paul

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Are there any experts on the machine Gun Company would have had specialist training to move into the machine Gun Company?

The founder members of the company were the MG teams of the original Bns so would have been given training whilst with them - most of the men who went early to the MGC would have been already trained but if he was a later member then he may not have had training prior to joining them.

I have a couple of questions, Is there anyone else who had a relative (Grandfather Great Grandfather so on ) that served with the 150 machine Gun Company around this time,

if so would love her from you. Does anyone know any of the other men that were in this 5 man crew.

From what I can find there were at least 52 men who transferred from 4th/5th Yorks to the 150th MGC when it was founded but my records stop at April 16. To tie down a particular crew would be difficult even with the diary as they usually just refer to MG team 1, team 2 etc.

Craig

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So did the 150th MGC 50 men = 10 sub units x ( 5 man per crew ) , so above could be wrong re sergeant.

sorry just looking into this myself, i think the 5th york reg would of had 4 MGC crew before Feb 1916?

if i am wrong with above how many crews of 5, would have been in the 150th MGC ? 5, 10 or 20 plus ?

Paul

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Does this help. Walter, Enlisted 14 Sep 1915 Middlesbrough

3/5th Battalions 6TH Battalion Alexandra,Princess of Wales's Own Yorkshire Regiment was a Depot/training units Formed in Northallerton and Scarborough, April and March 1915, Walter transferred 08/02/1916 5th Yorkshire regiment. Could he have had training with Machine Gun Company in either 3/5th Battalions 6TH Battalion.

Paul

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if i am wrong with above how many crews of 5, would have been in the 150th MGC ? 5, 10 or 20 plus ?

The problem is that when they merged different Bn's had different strengths due to casualties etc - the 150th had a run of least 110 numbers to it when it formed (at least 50 of who seem to have come 4th/5th Yorks, the rest from the DLI and East Yorks). The 151st had at least 80 numbers allocated when it formed.

A Bn MG section was circa 20 men but the 'book' strength varied and the MGC would also have taken signallers etc on strength. The strength of the Bn MG sections also increased over time from 2 to 4 guns - this was 2 * 2 gun teams - each 2 gun team had a Cpl and Sgt who each led a gun.

Craig

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So i doesn't look like ill be able to find his MCG team. that's a shame.

You never know though - the diaries do occasionally records injuries so there may be a reference to a particular team having a man wounded.

Unfortunately my copy of the diary doesn't go that far but once the N/A war diaries are available on-line then you may be able to get a copy - It would appear that it will be later in the year if it's going to be available for download.

Does anyone know of any photos of 150 machine gun teams ?

I don't.

Craig

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  • 3 years later...

Hi, I don't know if you ever got any pics but my Great Uncle, Sgt. 23498 Robert Rymer, MM. was in the 150th MG Company (later 50th Battn MG Corps) He was killed in action during the Battle of Estaires, 10th April 1918. He came from the 5th Battn Yorkshire Regmnt. I have a cpl of pics of his unit taken about 1917. Robert has a 'X' over his head in the football pic and is the Corporal in the middles row far right as you look, he has a wound stripe on his left cuff.

150 Comp. MGC Hard hats.jpg

150 Comp. MGC.jpg

150 Coy MGC Football team (copy).jpg

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  • 7 months later...

Hi Steve 

Thanks for posting the interesting photos of Robert Rymer

 

Paul has not been on the forum for almost a year I have sent him a message alerting him to your post

 

Just a small correction Robert served with the 4th Bn Yorks in France prior to being transferred to the M.G.C

 

Not the 5th Bn Yorks

 

Ray

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Steve 

Just an afterthought  do you have any photos of Roberts brother James KIA  10th July 1916

you are willing to share

 

Ray

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