Matt Dixon Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Can anyone tell me anything about the photo of the MC winner below? I believe it's a Fusiliers regiment of some description, but can anyone tell me anything else about this chap? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmond7 Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Which Fusilier regt had the tallest flame on their grenade badge? That one is immense! No real help but it may start something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Dixon Posted 28 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 28 September , 2004 I know more about particle physics and brain surgery than I do about Fusiliers badges....is that a big one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmond7 Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Munsters and Inniskillings both go broad, Dubs and R.Irish slightly taller ... but that is one pretty high 'flame' looking at the collar badge. Can post badges of regts. I mentioned so you can rule them out ... but not much point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Dixon Posted 28 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 28 September , 2004 A foreign branch of the fusiliers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsyeoman Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 If only we could get a decent zoom of the buttons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmond7 Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Check this ... I am! http://www.arbeia.demon.co.uk/srs/collect/badges/atoz.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Dixon Posted 28 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 28 September , 2004 I'll see what I can do with the buttons, probably not before tomorrow now though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianB Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I think actually he's an artillery officer. Given that he is wearing 'full dress', the tunic looks too dark to be red and is therefore probably blue. The collar badge is exactly RA (though I can't remember difference between theirs & RE ones). It must have been taken after about 1919 since he has his 1WW service medals as well as an OBE. Rank looks like lieutenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 Haven't got a clue about the Regiment, but he's a Lieutenant.... not that that helps much! Has anyone else noticed the "odd" striping on his BWM or is it just me???? Should be blue - narrow black - white - orange - white - narrow black - blue, but it looks like there's more lighter stripes than there should be. Porbably just me Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 Got him!!!!!!!!!! 2nd Lt Harold James Plenderleith.... Lancashire Fusiliers. Awarded MC (as per LG 19/4/18)..... LG Citation All I did was was look up "Fusilier" & "MC" on the on-line MICs..... went through looking for Lt's or 2nd Lt's....... a qucik check on the London Gazette and voila!!!! Enjoy (I'm off to be smug... never found anyone on the LG before) Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 Sorry to be thick, but how does this link with the photo, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I think an explanation is in order, Les, for your huge jump of faith! Basically - `ow d`yer know it`s `im? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I do not think the Line wore that shoulder belt thingy, presumably its for a pouch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_H Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 Matt He is a Royal Artillery officer. The pattern of the lace on the crossbelt confirms this - it is as shown in 1900 Dress Regulations. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I was going along with the others assumptions that he was fusiliers, due to the collar emblems..... seems logical I didn't think Artillery had that sort of emblem - even officers. OK.... smug mode over.... anyone got any humble pie??? I'm feeling peckish Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 So would that be the RA capbadge device on his buttons? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I haven't got a clue.... seems to be my current trend Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 langleybaston raised a good point. That "thingy" he is wearing over his left shoulder is a RA pouchbelt in gold lace, the same pattern as the one I own. I cannot see any device on his collar grenades and all the fusilier regts wore one. (in the 1900 regs anyway) The only ones not to wear a device on their grenades are the Scots Greys, RA and RE. The RE had a smaller badge, and it is definately not the Greys! I would agree with Julianb et. al. and opt for RA although the buttons seem a little questionable. Given the other indications, especially the pouchbelt, the probably "blue" tunic, etc, I think your man is a gunner. DrB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 Has anyone else noticed the "odd" striping on his BWM or is it just me???? It doesn't look right does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Dixon Posted 29 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 29 September , 2004 It never ceases to astound me, the depth of knowledge on this forum. Thankyou all gents for your contributions, I am pleased the photo has provoked such interest! Sadly my scanner has done a Titanic and sunk without trace so I can't help with a close up of the buttons. What did one have to do to be awarded the OBE/MBE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 30 September , 2004 Share Posted 30 September , 2004 CBE OBE MBE were linked to rank, not virtue, eg in recent years field officers clicked for OBE, and captains and below MBE. Just doing a good job and being noticed seemed to work in my time. And surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSMMo Posted 30 September , 2004 Share Posted 30 September , 2004 Just for comparison, the attached is a scan of the collar brass from my grandfather's WWI service uniform (RGA). Mike Morrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianB Posted 1 October , 2004 Share Posted 1 October , 2004 I tried to enter OBE (but maybe should have tried MBE), MC, Lieutenant, Artillery in the Gazette on line, but it didn't work. Nevertheless there must be some sort of database that would have these elements in - don't forget that he was also MiD. Try the RA Museum (now called "Firepower" !) or RA Assn. (let us know if - & how - you ever identify him) good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie Posted 1 October , 2004 Share Posted 1 October , 2004 CBE OBE MBE were linked to rank, not virtue, eg in recent years field officers clicked for OBE, and captains and below MBE. Just doing a good job and being noticed seemed to work in my time. And surviving. Up to the changes made by John Major when the British Empire Medal was abolished, a MBE could be awarded to a Warrant Officer Class II. By the way is not the OBE worn around the neck Arnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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