museumtom Posted 6 December , 2013 Share Posted 6 December , 2013 I would very much appreciate help with this officer please. He seem to be remembered in the Cookstown, County Tyrone memorial but I am convinced he was born in Dublin. There is a Cecil William Glenn in the Devonshire Census of 1911 and it says he was born in Dubin. But I cannot be sure it is the same man. Can you help please? http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2000767/GLENN,%20CECIL%20WILLIAM Any help at all would be most welcome. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 6 December , 2013 Share Posted 6 December , 2013 SDGW have him with just the one N - GLEN Nothing else new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 6 December , 2013 Share Posted 6 December , 2013 medal card gives a Dublin address (14 Northumberland Road) Ireland's Memorial Record gives Pomeroy Co Tyrone as birthplace. Family tree has the same. He's on the memorial in Clontarf http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/showPicture.php?pictureID=596 Following page has the marriage announcement of his younger brother Robert Glenn with Pomeroy as an address http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929-1%20-%200615.html 3 sisters are boarding at Earlsfort Terrace in the 1911 census; 1 a medical student. Elder sister is at Earlsfort Terrace in 1901 census. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2013 Thanks lads, if it is so then it is so. So be it. I really appreciate your help. Thank you again. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 6 December , 2013 Share Posted 6 December , 2013 his sister is the Mrs Gwynn on the medal card http://www.thepeerage.com/p61999.htm#i619984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2013 Thank you Johnnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 6 December , 2013 Share Posted 6 December , 2013 the Reverend Gwynn is an interesting character. Played cricket for Ireland (along with 3 of his brothers) and also let his rooms be used for the inaugral meeting of the Irish Citizen Army. His mother was a daughter of William Smith O'Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 7 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 7 December , 2013 Thanks again for keeping me in mind Johnnie. I am of the impression that he was born in Dublin but his fathers address in Pomeroy was used by IMR. Pomeroy as Cecils place of birth is not listed anywhere else except IMR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 7 December , 2013 Share Posted 7 December , 2013 his probate record is on Familysearch. Nothing about birth location unfortunately but gives info that he was late of Trinity https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23419-15929-75?cc=1921305&wc=M9QR-RTX:219434785 In the 1901 census in Dublin, his birthplace is listed as Dublin City, tallying with the 1911 census. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 7 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 7 December , 2013 Good on ye a chara. Johnnie could you please send me a link for the Dublin Census where you found him. I cannot locate it. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 7 December , 2013 Share Posted 7 December , 2013 here you go (he's down as William ) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Oxmantown_School_Lodge/1338892/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rflory Posted 7 December , 2013 Share Posted 7 December , 2013 From University of Dublin, Trinity College, War List, February 1922: Glenn, Cecil William, B.A. & LL.B. 1915. 2Lt, ASC, Jan. 1915; France 1915; Lt, 1915; killed in action, 28 Jan 1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 7 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 7 December , 2013 Dang it lads you are brilliant. When all the clues are put together it makes sense. I don't forgive him for using William in the Census though. It makes too much work for this ould head. Its all a credit to your detective work lads, without it this lad would not have made it. For this I thank ye most sincerely. On another subject, if I may, while trolling through the Irish Times and the Weekly Irish Times I have come across many lads who were unfindable. Would you like to have a stab at some of them? I have to warn you though they all seen to be IFCP lads and there are 11 pages of names. Fancy a stab at it before I send the to the IFCP team? Thanking you all very much indees. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 7 December , 2013 Share Posted 7 December , 2013 always up for the challenge Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 8 December , 2013 Share Posted 8 December , 2013 re the Gataces. William Edward Gatacre died in Holland in 1963 (family tree on Ancestry). MIC states he was on the exonerated officers list and a Prisoner of War. His brother is in De Ruvigny, Ireland's Memorial Record. and CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/257703/GATACRE,%20JOHN%20KIRWAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 8 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 8 December , 2013 Good man Johnnie. I know how difficult these names are. It is a very tricky list to plow through. Dont be too put out if they are unfindable. I spent a lot of time tweaking the casualty databases with success with them. I would love to be proved wrong though. Kind regards and thank you again. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 8 December , 2013 Share Posted 8 December , 2013 Lt H C Ross is Lt H C Rosa http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/139521/ROSA,%20HERBERT%20C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 8 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 8 December , 2013 Thanks Johnnie. Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 8 December , 2013 Share Posted 8 December , 2013 he is in London in the 1911 census. The nurse for his child is from Borrisokane. He appears to have married in Birr in 1909 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYDQ-PZ4 I think this German born musical chap his his father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 8 December , 2013 Share Posted 8 December , 2013 Staff Sgt J J Collins is Charles Collins http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/reels/sw/CollinsC_E427075.pdf C E Collins on CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/357863/COLLINS,%20C%20E Name: Charles Collins Birth Place: Armagh Residence: Dublin Death Date: 14 Jun 1917 Death Location: Home Enlistment Location: London Rank: A/Sergeant Regiment: Royal Army Service Corps Number: T.1SR/410 Type of Casualty: Died Theatre of War: Home His service record is on ancestry. Was a Staff Sgt, reduced to Corporal for misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 8 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 8 December , 2013 You will have to stop this now Johnnie, you are making me look like an amadán! Great bit of detective work there, thank you most kindly. Feel free to make me look more foolish, I can take it. You have a flair for this I can see. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 8 December , 2013 Share Posted 8 December , 2013 Graeme Chamley Wynne appears to have died 1964. His MIC suggests on the Exonerated Officers List so probably PoW rather than KIA, This seems to tally with data at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/summary/wy50-001.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 9 December , 2013 Author Share Posted 9 December , 2013 That looks very good, Johnnie. Captured in August 1914, in the paper as KIA in September 1914. I will cross him off the list. Thank you. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 9 December , 2013 Share Posted 9 December , 2013 James L Dawney looks to be Sydney James Livingston Downey http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/95486/DOWNEY,%20SYDNEY%20JAMES%20LIVINGSTON He has an entry in De Ruvigny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted 9 December , 2013 Share Posted 9 December , 2013 I would like to make a suggestion, Tom. Every time the search for one of your lads is completed could you go back and make a note of it in the original post. The thread is going to become very long and it will be hard work to go through it to find which names still need to be researched. Good luck, you may well have some non-commemorated lads there. CGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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