danny Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Hi All Just a quick question. Which were the first territorial units in F and F and when did they arrive? Many thanks in advance Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dycer Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Danny, The 8th Royal Scots landed in France on 5 November 1914 and were one of the first Territorial Battalions to go overseas. I think the London Scottish may hold the honour of being the first. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 4 RWF landed 6 November. Pity about that. Can't win 'em all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsturm Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 Like "The Long, Long Trail"-site tells us: Men who joined the Army in the Territorial Force before the war were not obliged to serve overseas. However, when war broke out they were invited to do so, and the majority did. 90% of the East Lancashire Division (later to be designated 42nd) - men of the Blackburn, Bolton, Chorley and Burnley areas - signed up, and by 10th September 1914 they had mobilised, moved to Southampton, and embarked for Egypt. but when talking about the Western Front, the first: 1/14th (County of London) Battalion TF (London Scottish) August 1914 : in Westminster. Part of 4th London Brigade, 2nd London Division. September 1914 : moved to France and became GHQ Troops on 16 September. Was engaged near Messines and Ypres on 31 October and early November, under command of the Cavalry Corps. 7 November 1914 : transferred to 1st Brigade, 1st Division. 8 February 1916 : transferred to 168th Brigade, 56th Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted 28 September , 2004 Share Posted 28 September , 2004 I saw one source which had the following dates: 16 Sept. - 1/14 London Scottish 20 Sept. - 1 HAC 26 Oct. - 5 Border 27 Oct. - 1/28 Artists Rifles 29 Oct. - 6 Welch 2 Nov. - 5 Royal Highlanders 3 Nov. - 10 Liverpool Scottish, 1/16 Queens Westminsters 4 Nov. - 1/13 Kensingtons 5 Nov. - 8 Royal Scots, 9 HLI, 5 Scottish Rifles, 1/5 London Rifle Brigade, 1/9 Queen Victorias Rifles, 1/1 Hertfordshire 6 Nov. - 4 Royal Welsh Fusiliers, 1/2 Monmouthshire 7 Nov. - 4 Seaforth Highlanders, 4 Suffolk 10 Nov. - 6 Cheshire, 6 Gordon Highlanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted 29 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 29 September , 2004 London Scottish it is then. Many thanks to all. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin1689 Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I believe the Oxfordshire Hussars were over before any of the infantry units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 29 September , 2004 Share Posted 29 September , 2004 I believe the Oxfordshire Hussars were over before any of the infantry units The Oxfordshire Yeomanry{Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars}Arrived @ Dunkirk on 22nd September 1914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwenlock Posted 15 January , 2006 Share Posted 15 January , 2006 The QOOH were sent on the express orders of Winston Churchill who had been OC of the Henley Sqn of the QOOH (although he didnt deply with the Regiment). Yours aye Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 15 January , 2006 Share Posted 15 January , 2006 As a London Jock, it was always instilled in me that the 1/14th London were the first in action, but not the first in France. Oxfordshire yeo it is...but I also thought the Northumberland Hussars went over pretty early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 15 January , 2006 Share Posted 15 January , 2006 Northumberland Hussars landed @ Zeebrugge on October 6th 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 15 January , 2006 Share Posted 15 January , 2006 Although not F & F, 6/Manchester (as part of 42nd Division) had left for Egypt on 10 September. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Felstead Posted 16 January , 2006 Share Posted 16 January , 2006 Like Steve, I too am an ex London Jock. I believe that the London Scottish were the first TF INFANTRY battalion in action (31 Oct). However, I also believe that the Oxf Yeomanry did exchange shots with German forces while out on Recce patrols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted 16 January , 2006 Share Posted 16 January , 2006 I agree the London Scottish were the first into action and one of them was Ronald Coleman later to become a famous Hollywood actor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmond7 Posted 16 January , 2006 Share Posted 16 January , 2006 North Irish Horse (not strictly territorial .. but had to give them a mention)! Methinks they were 'over there' fairly early? Des Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Johnson Posted 17 January , 2006 Share Posted 17 January , 2006 According to my books, Lord Esher, chairman of the teritorial force sent a telegram to the London Scottish informing them that they had been selected as having the honour of being the first territorial unit to be sent to France. They arrived on the 16th Sept ie before the Oxfordshire Yeomanry on the 22nd Sept (see earlier post). They were also the first territorial batallion to see action, the earlier action by the Oxfordshire Yeomanry seing only a handfull committed. My Grandfather therefore must have been one of the first Territorials ever to be taken prisoner, on the 1st November during the action at Messines. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 17 January , 2006 Share Posted 17 January , 2006 If you're interested there are a few more "firsts" on this page: http://www.1914-1918.net/firstsnlasts.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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