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Searching for info on Col. Herbert T. Goodlands, founder of my hometow


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Hi Everyone, and thanks to the admins for letting me have access to this amazing community.

I came across this forum while searching for information on Col. Herbert T. Goodlands, who I understand was put in charge of the Imperial War Graves commission. He was also one of the brothers who founded the community of Goodlands, in the province of Manitoba, Canada. While we still have about 40 people in the town, and about another 50 on nearby farms, what we do not have is a full account of the life of our hamlet's two founders.

If anyone would be so kind as to help us discover his life and times in service to our country, I would be very grateful. Even the most mundane details will be helpful, as the small details help "The Google Machine" find big details.

Thanks in advance!

--Jordan Morningstar

Municipal Councillor, Ward 1, Rural Municipality of Brenda

Photo of H.T. Goodland on another thread, if that helps:

 

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There is a very brief mention of him in Philip Longworth's book 'The Unending Vigil'. P60 in the Pen & Sword version. He was in charge of operations at the IWGC HQ in France, at Longuenesse outside St Omer.

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Herbert Tom Goodland was born in the Oct.-Nov.-Dec. quarter of 1874 in the Taunton, Somerset District.

He was the son of Charles John Goodland (1846 - 1924) and Kate Goodland (1845 - 1921) (believed to be formerly Levy).

a Charles John Goodland married a Kate Levy in the Apr.-May-June quarter of 1870 in the Pancras, London District.

1881 Census of England - 30 Bridge Street, Taunton, Somerset

Charles Goodland head of household 35 coal merchant born Somerset, Taunton

Kate wife age given as 34 born Canada, Montreal

Charles A. son 10 scholar born Somerset, Taunton

Earnest son 8 scholar born Somerset, Taunton

Herbert son 6 scholar born Somerset, Taunton

Arthur son 4 born Somerset, Taunton

Rose daur. 3 born Somerset, Taunton

Roger son 10 months born Somerset, Taunton

1891 Census of England - Hart House School, Truro, Cornwall

Herbert T. Goodland 16 boarder scholar born Taunton, Somersetshire

1892 emigrated to Canada

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Dear Jordan

He was originally in the Munster Fusileers and later transferred to the Royal Berkshire Regiment ending up as the CO of the 5th (Service) Battalion which he brought back to the UK at the end of the 1st WW

There are a number of references and images of this officer in the Regimental Museum Website that maybe of interest to you.

The Website in question is www.thewardrobe.org.uk

Once there go to RESEARCH/COLLECTION/ADVANCE SEARCH/NAME and put in GOODLAND (without an S). You will pick up the following items 21711, 21821,21823,21824,21828,21829,9941,9944,9947.

The museum has an odd name because that is the name of the building the collation is housed in at Salisbury, Wiltshire UK.

Good luck with your research.

Cheers

MAC

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Guest JordanMorningstar

Wow, thank you everyone for the information, this is great! I don't know when I will get a chance to do something with this information, but it will certainly be a help when I do get a chance!

If anyone is interested, I will upload a picture of Goodlands (the community) as soon as I can figure out how.

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  • 8 years later...
5 hours ago, MeDave said:

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i just acquired this, i also would like more information on this gentleman if possible. thanks

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Colonel Herbert Thomas GOODLAND. The Royal Munster Fusiliers = Officer's Papers at the National Archives - sadly not digitised so a visit by you, or a researcher, required. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1064561 

M

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CWGC Archiive have a bigraphical note with a photo: http://archive.cwgc.org/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons&id=DS%2FUK%2F16

M

Edit: IWM have an earlier photo https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205295552 

To be honest, plenty turns up with a quick web search using his names - so you @MeDave / any other(s) would probably be better off asking specific questions here on GWF

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this site shows up at the top of my google search, so i replied to the post hoping to get a possible reply from the person who started the thread. i like to reconnect items to people that they should be with. i realized after the post was 7 or 8 years old. but he left enough info to track him down. i would like to see it end up in a museum , its a unique piece of history and i know my kids don't appreciate it like i do, unfortunately. so i want to make sure it is kept safe for future generations. but i defiantly appreciate the information provided, and will be using the site more in the future. i took a quick look at it and it will help to be able to track down some information on other items i have, that need to find a home. im now at the age that i want to pass the items on before they end up in another auction or garage sale, like i found them.

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@MeDave You are most welcome here at GWF [so please don't think otherwise!].

Fantastic to see your photo.

Those are great sentiments - and I wish you the very best of luck.

M

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i just want this to be seen and preserved and Him to be remembered , i cant think of anything more important of a job than what col. goodlands did. after going through the war itself , then spending years after having to relive it on the battlefields, looking for and recovering the fallen, takes a person of unusual character. its apart of the war that the govt. always down played during the war and something people didn't want to deal with after. you always hear about the battles, but not the consequences . i have seen the odd map, but have never come across an item like this .  one of the few times im glad im old , is that my grandfather who served in ww2, took my to visit friends in a home set up for soldiers who were disfigured and disabled, the home was originally built for ww1 soldiers , and many were still living there.  i was privileged to be able to listen to their stories  of both world wars, many of them i still remember. even though the stories were graphic and gave me nightmares at times, my biggest fear is that the stories will be forgotten.

i am thankfull the sites like this exist and there are people who not only remember but want to pass along the stories. 

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Thank you for posting this; I stumbled across it today looking for other pictures.  Col Goodland is my grandfather.  He died before I was born, and even though I'm not much of a WWI historian, I've always been immensely proud of his deep involvement in the IWGC.  His daughter from his second marriage (my mother) turns 90 years old this year (2023).  I told her that I'd seen this post; she replied that she was aware of the sale of the briefcase in Jan 2022, and in her words: "I was so pleased that someone had wanted it, and I wondered if it would end up in a museum somewhere".  So thank you, MeDave and Matlock and other contributors to this thread, for keeping these memories alive...although it does feel a bit odd seeing complete strangers conversing about my family history!   

One biographical note:  his real name is Herbert Tom Goodland (not Thomas), and yes he founded Goodlands Manitoba with his brother Ernest.  According to my mother, together they referred to themselves as Bert and Ernie!  So there you go; they made a lasting contribution to war remembrance and children's television.  

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