Dannemois Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 I have tried looking on the London and Edinburgh Gazettes with my usual zero result Can someone please look for info of: P. Leageian, D.C.M. Welsh Regt, no other details, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 Are you sure the spelling is correct? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel9 Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 Can't find anything on TNA or Ancestry for Leageian either. Do you have his service number? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel9 Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 no other details, sorry Apologies, missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 Have looked through the 230 DCM's listed on Ancestry to the Welsh Regt, and there is no name close to that? Where did you get the name? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huytonhoofer Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 The name is listed on the war memorial in the hamlet of Troedrhiwfuwch which is in Glamorgan. Searching the 1911 census for the village returns no names that even closely resemble Leageian. the coomonest name beginning with L is Lewis There is a photo which can be found here http://www.rayfo.co.uk/page9.htm scroll to the bottom of the page, but it is indistinct on the image. Additionally I have gone page by page through Walkers recipients of the DCM 1914 -1920 with no name even remotely resembling what you are after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 11 November , 2013 Admin Share Posted 11 November , 2013 Can you find a MIC for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannemois Posted 15 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 15 November , 2013 Sorry but I have not found his MIC; as ninesergeants mentioned on #6 he is listed on the Troedrhiwfuch Memorial. That's about all I know, trying to add to the details for the Gelligaer Historical Society, who are researching all those named on the memorials of the old parish website which will be available for all to see on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 15 November , 2013 Share Posted 15 November , 2013 Put Welsh Regiment DCMs into CWGC and there are twenty results, but none remotely like this chap's name - the only guy with a first name beginning with P is a Patsy McCarthy. How odd / annoying! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 15 November , 2013 Share Posted 15 November , 2013 P. Leageian To be honest, this could be anything. How certain are you that, that is exactly what it says? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannemois Posted 15 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 15 November , 2013 Mike I'm reading it as I see it off the memorial LEAGEIAN. I'll check with the Welsh Regiment Musuem in Brecon and come back to you when I have had a reply. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannemois Posted 19 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 19 November , 2013 For your interest; The curator at the Welsh Regiment Musuem looked high and low but cannot find anything that is remotely like the name on the memorial. I guess this is one of them "brickwalls" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 19 November , 2013 Share Posted 19 November , 2013 Looks like LEAC*** to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 November , 2013 Share Posted 19 November , 2013 The P could be an R and there could be a letter before the L? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 To be honest, this could be anything. How certain are you that, that is exactly what it says? Can I just clarify the answer to this question, perhaps by putting it another way Have you actually read this off the memorial in person, or are you, like the rest of us interpreting the photograph As Mike says it could be anything. I have tried photoshopping it with no better results than Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 if this helps http://www.gelligaerhistoricalsociety.co.uk/index.php/troedrhiwfuwch-ww1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 Thanks welshdoc. Leageian DCM it is. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 Doesnt help though, this one is interesting for the detectives. There are some Leage listed in the archives I think its a French name but nothing to suggest a Welsh context. Could it be a name translated into Latin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 I wonder if he shortened his name. There are very few initial P's in the regiment, maybe P Lewis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmslewis Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 A puzzle, I'm drawing a blank at the moment. Will keep trying though. Initial thoughts are name could be a mis-spelling for whatever reason, Leageian is a very odd and distinctive name. I've had a look at 1911 census and there was a Luigi living in the area, first initial R, also possibly Egan? Legion? League?! No likely candidates on CWGC for Welsh Regiment, DCM. I've also had a quick look at Welsh Newspaper Archive with no joy. Hmmm... tricky. Sorry I can't be of any help at the moment, but I'll keep trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 Been in contact with the local Historical society who are interested but like us stumped . Did though suggest Gaelic? Did some googling and came up with names which may just have a possibility, however cant match anything up at all. What a way to spend an afternoon. Are there any Irish sounding names starting with L or O'L on the Welsh DCM roll? Ó Longáin - (O) Langan or Long - Co Armagh chiefsÓ Lonagáin - (O) Lanigan - Co Tipperary chiefsÓ Lorcáin - (O) Larkin - Co Wexford - chief of FothartÓ Lorcáin - (O) Larkin - Co Armagh - chief of Farney and West Uí BreasailÓ Lorcáin - (O) Larkin - Co Galway - the Uí MaineÓ Lorcáin - (O) Larkin - Co Tipperary - eranaghs of LorrhaMac Lochlainn - MacLaughlin - Co Donegal (Inishowen) - the Northern Uí NeillÓ fLaithbheartaigh - (O) Laverty or Laherty - Co Donegal - lords of AileachÓ Limhain - (O) Lavin - Co RoscommonÓ Laochdha - Leahy - Co Cork - Corca LaoighdeÓ Laoghaire - (O) Leary - Co CorkÓ Léanacháin - Lenaghan, Linehan or Lenihan - Co Roscommon, Limerick/TipperaryÓ Leannain - Lennon - Galway, Mayo and FermanaghMac Giolla Mhín - MacLiveen - South DownÓ Longargain - (O)Lonergan - Co TipperaryÓ Longain - Long or (O)Langan - Co ArmaghÓ Longaigh - Long - Co CorkÓ Lochlainn - (O)Loughlin or Lochlain - Co Clare - lord of Corcomroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 Is it just me, or is the second A smaller than the other letters, and why might that be? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 So as it stands the chap has his name on the local memorial but that name as written is nowhere to be seen on Ancestry or anywhere else on the internet. He is not apparently recorded on the Commonwealth war graves commission database and if he was a casualty should be. It is of course possible that he died after leaving the army and hence his omission from the CWGC database. The trouble is there is no sign of his active service in WW1. This does not preclude home service in which he may have died hence no mention in the National Archives Medal index card database or inclusion in the casualty database. This would leave the question of the DCM which may have been for example Boer war. Do we have access to Boer war DCMs not necessarily to the Welsh R. If so any names which may be similar to Leageian or an Anglicized version thereof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 The only LEAG** in the overseas deaths is LEAGAS Arthur, RFLR 1916. In fact he is the only LEG*** (anything)! SteveM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 20 November , 2013 Share Posted 20 November , 2013 FWIW a search of DCMS on Ancestry using "Wel*h" and initial "P" just leaves E.P. Davies, The Royal Welch Fusiliers M.P. Hennessey, The Royal Welch Fusiliers P. Murphy, The Royal Welch Fusiliers P. Pattison,The Royal Welch Fusiliers P. Roberts, The Royal Welch Fusiliers P.B. Roderick, The Royal Welch Fusiliers L.A.P. Roots, The Welsh Regiment P. Williams, The Welsh Regiment P.F. Witten, The Royal Welch Fusiliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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