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Marcin FELEDZIAK Infantry Regiment 171


Martin Feledziak

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Comme ca?

=Google Earth with personalized location markers

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Egbert,

That is very detailed and you have obviously set your screen shot to match mine.

I am very interested in your marker for Minenkrieg just above Bolante. That location is marked on the Pioneer 29 Chronic movements.

What does that mean "Minenkrieg" ?

Martin

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Daniel -

I have used the mapping to mark plots such as family graves. The below is the civilian communal cemetery in Auby, Northern France. The application is in 3D so you can even view buildings which have been uploaded.

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Here is the German war cemetery in Consenvoye, the Meuse river in the background. The small blue squares are photo locations where Panoramio users have uploaded. They open a photo viewer when you click them.

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Here is an example of a 3D building I modeled a couple of years ago. This is looking in the direction of Vimy Ridge. The little yellow man can be dragged off that bar on the right and dropped on a road. If the area has been street mapped then it opens up STREET VIEW which is another bit of magic. It is like being there.

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It is just my marker that at exactly this positon Minenkrieg=mine warfare took place with IR 173 involved

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Egbert

OK Thanks so it is the term for minewarfare, I have located your marker on my map.

I think Johann 1915 was killed somewhere near to the Bagatelle marker, Is there a way I can better fix the position ? I don't know how to overlay Trench maps.

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I have Just finished reading "Storm of Steel" by Ernst Junger.

I do not read books too often but I did this one in just 2 days.

I thought I would give him have a look as Dave (Croonaert ) mentioned him earlier in this thread.

I think it is a must read.

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remember if you are going to get books

support the forum and use the links on the menu bar.

to be fair I found a full PDF but I will get the book.

Martin

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Whilst reading the above book I plotted his movements on Google earth. He certainly got about and took his fair share of battle wounds. He was also in the Verdun sector but I have left that area off the screen grab for ease of reading.

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The below is a portrait of Ernst Junger.

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These are my views from reading his book.

Working from the shiny badge below his left breast pocket.

This is a wound badge, awarded in 3 different types. Black, silver and Gold.

His award was GOLD. I think he got the best part of 20 wounds during the conflict.

Above that is the Iron Cross First class. Always worn in that position and has a screw through the back of the cross

and fixed in place with a circular slim nut. Junger lost his on the battlefield, but with help from his aide, found it.

I hope that is the very same medal shown on the image.

He was seriously wounded in the advance after finding his medal.

Then above are the two medal Ribbons

The first being the Iron Cross 2nd Class which he picked up in early action in the Verdun sector.

The other ribbon is the "Front line Fighter". these were awarded after the war. The Crossed swords indicates action in the front line.

Black ones were awarded to parents of the dead otherwise known "widows or Mothers Medal". Civilians were also awarded a bronze version without swords.

He also wears the Merit Medal also known as the "Blue Max".

He was the youngest recipient of this top level honour

He received notification by telegram from the office of the Kaiser.

He also obtained an additional award which is not displayed.

the Knight's Cross of the House of Hohenzollern

A gold-edged cross with a silver cup bearing the legend 'For the Victor of Mceuvres',
following the
double battle of Cambrai

I hope these are correct observations.

Please comment if I am wrong !

It is difficult to make an assessment of a person from a diary which has been translated by a third party from a foreign language but

I believe Ernst was an honourable man.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Very nice!

I am trouble making out the maker's mark impressed on the suspension ring on the EKII. Have you identified the maker already? I know I saw a list of known marks and makers somewhere...if you need me to dig around and find it, happy to help.

-Daniel

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Daniel -

I think it is "MFH" on the ring.

It looks authentic and was a reasonable price ( 45 Dollars ) . The Hindenburg was very little money. ( 15 Dollars or so )

I am looking for a silver wound badge too - but they are silly money, more than the iron cross.

Even though he posed with the equivalent in 1919, I am sure my grandfather would not approve. I suspect he threw his original medal away.

I am thinking of making up a display picture frame like Egbert has.

It is history and should always be remembered.

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Daniel -

I think it is "MFH" on the ring.

It looks authentic and was a reasonable price ( 45 Dollars ) . The Hindenburg was very little money. ( 15 Dollars or so )

I am looking for a silver wound badge too - but they are silly money, more than the iron cross.

Even though he posed with the equivalent in 1919, I am sure my grandfather would not approve. I suspect he threw his original medal away.

I am thinking of making up a display picture frame like Egbert has.

It is history and should always be remembered.

I have been hemming and hawing about buying a replacement EKII for my grandfather, since his medal vanished over the years. He was eligible for the Black Wound Badge but I have nothing that says he was ever actually awarded one. I may be putting together something framed if I can find a good spot in the house for it.

I found the list of Makers Marks....looks like MFH is a presently unknown maker:

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/stuff/1914_EK2_makers.htm

-Daniel

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For me it is still guess work.

I have just 2 period pictures and absolutely no word of mouth.

He posed with the EKII ribbon and a light coloured wound badge in 1919.

also I have that hospital picture from 1918.

We should not worry and just replace the items.

You have Emanuel's service books to include too. That should make a worthy historical display

So just crack on and replace..

Just out of interest have you got the photo of Emanuel in the Posen hospital ?

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That is a quality still.

Just look at the expressions on the faces of those nurses.

I am sure they all fancy him !!! Certainly the middle nurse, she is crazy for him.

Is he recovering from the bullet to the leg or lung poisoning following gassing ?

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attachicon.gifEmanuel Stern Recovering from Poison Gas Attack i.jpg

Here it is. I was hesitant to post it before but I think it's ok to post it now.

-Daniel

Daniel, what did I miss with Emanuel in Posen????? I have an interest in Posen as my Grandfather was there sometime in 1916/17 for re convalescence and training and as an instructor between his injury and his second tour to the Western front.

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Daniel, what did I miss with Emanuel in Posen????? I have an interest in Posen as my Grandfather was there sometime in 1916/17 for re convalescence and training and as an instructor between his injury and his second tour to the Western front.

I honestly am not sure where this photo was taken, nor when. If I were a betting man I would guess this might be from 1915 when he was recovering from being shot in the leg, but it could be earlier when he was recovering from Typhus. When he was gassed in 1916, I don't believe he did a stint in any hospital per se. I need to go back to the Soldbuch and reread it again, as the place names are eluding me so early in the morning.

I should probably park a copy of this in Emanuel's thread as I don't wish to derail Martin's brilliant thread on his family research with stuff that is only tangentially relevant.

-Daniel

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I only came across this thread by accident and I enjoyed reading all the old posts and following the simply excellent dissection and deduction and forensic processes involved. I had previously greatly enjoyed following Bob Lemke's journey into the past and then Egbert's, and so yes, Egbert, it does belong here on a live and current thread! And Martin, enjoy the journey, which is being followed by a great number!

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Forgot to say - Martin, Egbert, yes reading these old German scripts is a b*gg*r! I have some German, and I have some period postcards which are the very devil to work out, but I have a contact on another forum who specialises in old German postcards, and I can pass on details

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Hi Trajan -

The internet is a wondrous thing and we would be lost without it.

I started this thread at the end of October last year with just a few scant details. The discoveries have been amazing. I knew little of the Johann's and now I know who both of them are and where they were from and where they are now.

I even know where my family are from - I am fairly sure that my Father had no idea because he never told me. I am also fairly sure that my Grand Father would not take kindly to me "Raking up the Past" but he like my Father are not here anymore.

So this mission of discovery is a lesson to me in history both family and world history.

There are a number of lines still to follow - I would like to find out which unit my Grand Father was in and about his travels. I am hoping to access this material from the Berlin hospital records.

I love getting updates from the other forum members, so we all learn from our adventures.

I am just off to have a Beer and maybe some cheese too !!

Let us keep looking- the truth is out there.

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Too true about the adventure and joy and often also the sadness in finding these things. I always vaguely knew that my grandad was in WWI and in Egypt/Palestine fighting those 'Nasty Turks' as my ma put it. Then I found out that he really was there, with the Herefordshire Regiment - but I only found that out after marrying a Turk whose great-grandfather may well have been shooting at him! Life does go around and around in circles...!!! And our boys will certainly know of this peculiar heritage!

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Too true about the adventure and joy and often also the sadness in finding these things. I always vaguely knew that my grandad was in WWI and in Egypt/Palestine fighting those 'Nasty Turks' as my ma put it. Then I found out that he really was there, with the Herefordshire Regiment - but I only found that out after marrying a Turk whose great-grandfather may well have been shooting at him! Life does go around and around in circles...!!! And our boys will certainly know of this peculiar heritage!

I can sympathize...Half my ancestors back then were shooting at the other half!

-Daniel

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Daniel, what did I miss with Emanuel in Posen????? I have an interest in Posen as my Grandfather was there sometime in 1916/17 for re convalescence and training and as an instructor between his injury and his second tour to the Western front.

Egbert,

You are good with Google Earth, have you ever looked to find the Posen barracks, are they still there, or even the spot where they used to be ?

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