ph0ebus Posted 8 January , 2014 Share Posted 8 January , 2014 The family name is Feledziak and it would appear that the earliest family members are from Szelejewo. Records list Antonius and Magdalena. There is a record which indicates that Magdalena Feledziak died in Szelejewo on 22 December 1846 aged 90. This means that her birth year would have been around 1756. There is a very good chance that she was the mother of Valentinus Born 1802. However there is still mystery about the family. Antonius and Magdalena did not have a surname in 1795 when their first listed child arrived. 3 subsequent records have shown a use of the names Dępczak/Dębczak/Dębski before it changed into Feledziak. History is wonderful when new discoveries can be made. Martin Feledziak You are making quite a good bit of progress...well done! Since you have done well working backwards, perhaps you now have what you need to work forwards into other branches of the tree, and maybe connect the dots with the other Feledziak men mentioned in the Verlustlisten database. I have had some success with that strategy myself. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 8 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2014 Hi Daniel - Hope you are coping with the cold States side. I hear they would not let the polar bears out in New York... That is cold !!!!. So keep your heating on Yes. I am amazed where I am now... I can see that early Feledziak Families were amazing family people.. some were having 12 Children. But that looks like the norm for life at that time. I am sure that the current 9 entries on the Verlustlisten are all my ancestors and I am expecting more to appear over the next few months. So sad. I even see we have a Maryanna Feledziak who has gone out to New York, in 1905, Bound to be one of ours. But I also see Franz Feledziak who ends up a Polish Prisoner in Dachau.. We must look back and see what is there.. some things we will not like ! Having read Justin's input that is another example. However I want to know and will keep looking. Now we have keyboards and screens to look back. Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 8 January , 2014 Share Posted 8 January , 2014 Hi Daniel - I even see we have a Maryanna Feledziak who has gone out to New York, in 1905, Bound to be one of ours. But I also see Franz Feledziak who ends up a Polish Prisoner in Dachau.. You are referring to: First Name: Maryana Last Name: Feledziak Ethnicity: Poland, Polish Last Place of Residence: Dubiecko Date of Arrival: Apr 07, 1905 Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: F Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Silvia Port of Departure: Hamburg Manifest Line Number: 0001 I see her final destination was Forestville, California, to live with a cousin whose name is pretty hard to decipher...Frank Ciurkiewicz? She was single, traveled alone and paid her own way. I am getting this via Ellis Island's site. Do you have access already? If not you can register for free and see the original manifest image for her there. The S.S. Silvia had an unfortunate end... http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?181055 -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 9 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 January , 2014 Hi Daniel - I found it on the below site. The only thing which I am not sure about is Dubiecko as it is about 200 miles from where most of the family were based. I have started to use "Geni", you told me about, to plot the early family tree. for me It makes things easier to understand, Anyway this lady comes in later so I don't want to be distracted just yet. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 9 January , 2014 Share Posted 9 January , 2014 Hi Daniel - I found it on the below site. The only thing which I am not sure about is Dubiecko as it is about 200 miles from where most of the family were based. maryana feledziak.jpg I have started to use "Geni", you told me about, to plot the early family tree. for me It makes things easier to understand, Anyway this lady comes in later so I don't want to be distracted just yet. Thanks. It's a great site. I also took the 'liberty' (pardon the pun) of checking the Castle Garden immigration database for you (which has records for immigration through the port of New York prior to Ellis Island's opening) and found no results for anyone with the Feledziak surname. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenja Posted 9 January , 2014 Share Posted 9 January , 2014 Hi Martin I'm very experienced in searching for ancestors/relatives who emigrated to the United States. If you want to find out more facts about people with name Feledziak in the United States I can help you. The difficulty with Polish and Russian names is, that they were often wrong spelled or mistranscribed. The surname Ciurkiewicz was also written Dzurkiewicz, there is also the surname Jurkiewicz/Yurkiewicz. Regards Svenja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 10 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 10 January , 2014 Thanks Daniel. Thanks Svenja. How interesting to be conversing with people from distant places around the world. Please do not worry too much about Maryanna. She comes in much later, that is if we are related. I am still looking at the early Feledziak's from the beginning of the 1800's here is an example of an entry for Magdalene Feledziak who died aged 90 in 1846 That means she was born around 1756 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 13 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 13 January , 2014 Today I have received a reply from a Genealogist in Mokronos Poland He has located the Church Birth Record for Johann Feledziak Born 22 August 1891 that would make him 24 years of age when he was killed in 1915. Thanks all friends. Martin Feledziak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOVE23 Posted 14 January , 2014 Share Posted 14 January , 2014 I am glad to see you found that information. I hope I will soon have some church documentation for some of the folks on my family tree who hail from Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 14 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 14 January , 2014 I believe that researching back was slightly easier for me as my name is fairly unusual. I was, however, amazed that records were kept, survived, to establish my history. I don't know if you tried the forum connected to the Poznan Project. http://www.wtg-gniazdo.org/forum/ I posted my interests on it and I got a number of very useful tips. I did not use the war research angle just general family history. Let us keep looking. Regards Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 15 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 15 January , 2014 The indexers have now added the Death report of Johann Feledziak Killed 1917. Report added yesterday 14 Jan 2014 http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/6717260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 15 January , 2014 Share Posted 15 January , 2014 Excellent! -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 15 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 15 January , 2014 To conclude then :- Johann Francis Feledziak Born 23 August 1888 - Parents Johann Feledziak and Francoise Klepaka Killed 22.04.1915 (26 Years) from Mokronos - Poland 2./Pion.Btl.29 Nachname: Feledziak Vorname: Johann ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Servon-Melzicourt. Endgrablage: Block 2 Grab 501 Dienstgrad: Unteroffizier Geburtsort: Mokronos Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 22.04.1915 Johann Feledziak Born 13 June 1897 - Parents Vincenty Feledziak and Catherine Nawroczyk - Nawrocik Killed 18.07.1917 (19 Years) from Szelejewo - Poland 4./Fus.R.37. Nachname: Feledziak Vorname: Johann ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Consenvoye. Endgrablage: Block 2 Grab 151 Dienstgrad: Füsilier Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 18.07.1917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 23 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2014 (edited) I don't know how many Polish readers the Great War Forum has, Perhaps none, as there was no Poland until after 1919. I have added this Death Notice for GF Marcin. This is translation of that obituary: Post mortem remembrance Monday April 29 of this year Polonia from Auby (Nord [Department]) escorted to eternal rest late Marcin Feledziak who died in 72nd year of his life. In the overcrowded church parish priest Józef Sroka in assistance of French parish priest celebrated mournful mass, stressing in his sermon the righteous character and advantages of the late. Half century ago Marcin Feledziak arrived with his family to Auby as a coal miner. Despite harsh work conditions and many family responsibilities, he devoted every free moment to work for his community and he gave great favors to Polish cause in veterans organizations. He was one of the founders of the [local] circle of the [Union of] Reservists and Former Military in Auby and then it’s many years president. Only inexorable coal miners’ occupational disease forced him to resign from this post, but until last moments of his life he was interested in the veterans movement. Six veterans banners of the Third District, banner of the circle of Polish women from Ostricourt and the flag of Association of the Living Rosary from Auby as well as great number of funeral wreaths and bouquets are proving that late Marcin Feledziak was highly appreciated by local and adjacent Polonia and Medaille du Travail, Croix de Commandeur “Encouragement au Devouement” and his others veterans decorations are proving his devotion and merits. Local authorities were represented by Mr. Robert Caplaire, mayor of Auby, and the main council of Union of Reservists and Former Military was represented by colleague secretary general Zbigniew Skolski and colleague Stanisław Jasiński, secretary of the Third District Dourges as well as all the members of circle from Auby. Let the hospitable French earth will be light for him. Honor his memory! ( Kindly Translated by Tomasz F ) Edited 16 August , 2017 by Martin Feledziak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 29 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 29 January , 2014 Just a question from this report. It was sent to me from the German war graves equivalent. It appears to be from page 406 - So this could be from the - 4 Komp Fusilier Regiment No 37 -history. I can see that Johann Feledziak is Wounded 28 .6 17 But what do the two words mean next to the Cross ? on his Death date 18 .7 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 29 January , 2014 Share Posted 29 January , 2014 Kriegslaz. I would assume stands for Kriegslazarette, or war hospital. I am not sure how that would differ from, say, a field hospital (feldlazarett). Stenay is the location of said hospital (Stenay is in France). -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 30 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January , 2014 Here is an image of the hospital in Stenay - I wonder if it is the one Johann was taken to for treatment to the wound/s which eventually ended his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 4 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 4 February , 2014 I have lost a post here. So I will try again. Thanks Daniel just those two words opened up a new line of enquiry. That last letter always looks like an "n" to me and not a "y" Therefore the word just looks like Stenan and now you tell me it is the town of Stenay. I then did a search on the internet which lead me back to the forum and that very moving thread " German Death Cards & Feldpost Collection"Even back to this very thread where Bob's Dad was in Stenay. I also found a very moving thread from the current children of Stenay who are researching their own town WW1 history. How the Germans rolled up in 1914 and told the French they were having their town. So much to learn, so let us keep looking. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 4 February , 2014 Share Posted 4 February , 2014 I too thought at first it was Stenan, but then I checked it against my handy German Script chart and figured out I was incorrect: It's a small world, isn't it? I have had a few such coincidences here on the Forum since I joined. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 5 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 5 February , 2014 I am still trying to understand the early movements of Pionier 29 during the early phase. The locations I think I understand I have started to plot.from 20 Aug 1914 (Frassem) but the three locations above that I can't understand. could 12.Aug 1914 be Bettingen ? but that would make it Switzerland. I can see they marched about but what is the other method of transport mentioned ? Any clues gratefully received Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 6 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 6 February , 2014 I have plotted all the unit locations up to his death in April 1915. I just need to establish the three locations after they left Posen (Poznan). It looks like they could have been in Switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 6 February , 2014 Share Posted 6 February , 2014 I'm curious... what program you are using to do this sort of mapping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 6 February , 2014 Share Posted 6 February , 2014 I'm curious... what program you are using to do this sort of mapping? Comme ca? =Google Earth with personalized location markers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 6 February , 2014 Share Posted 6 February , 2014 Ah, Google Earth. I don't use it, but makes sense...perhaps I will give it a try. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 6 February , 2014 Author Share Posted 6 February , 2014 Ah, Google Earth. I don't use it, but makes sense...perhaps I will give it a try. -Daniel Daniel, It is free and it is very, very good. There are wondrous things you can do with it. Our screen shots above are several levels out to give an overview, but you can zoom in to every place mark and view down to house level satellite imagery. It is a stunningly "Cool" bit of software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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