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33 minutes ago, Deb R said:

I found this topic today and am clutching at straws really.  I'm researching my great grandfather who's military life is a bit of a mystery the photo the family always assumed was him in his WW1 uniform turns out to be a Boer war uniform and medals but no one in the older members of the family know anything about it.  We only have a few of his WW1 records that my uncle sent me one and I have found more from, he said that his records were part of the burnt collection so there might not be more to find,  from my understanding he was at some point with a Gloucestershire regiment and this must be where he attested which if we knew that would help, however he was then a gunner with RGA I'm told they are made up from men from different units so very hard to trace where he might have been during WW1 we know by family he was injured in the thigh he never spoke much of it other than  the big gun he was operating was shelled and he was only survivor.  It seems then he spends some time in 23 rd Clyde fire command and then transferred to labour corps with B2 medical it seems. The Boer War part remains a mystery as he would have been only 15 his age on these records is out by 2 years as he was born in 1885 not 1883, which for WW1 he would have had no need to lie about his age and the soldier in the photo we habe is of a very young man.

 

so I was curious on this transfer paper what the list of forms were mention as two are hand written which is what I was searching when I found this page.  

 

I will attempt to upload in the hope someone here can tell me.

 

thank you 

Deb 

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Hi Deb,

 His overseas service with the R.G.A dates from 1916 or later,  until his " permanent and compulsory transfer to the Labour Corps Scottish Command, discharge and transfer centre, at most beneficial rate of pay", on 19/11/1918. 

 If you start a new thread in the  "Soldiers" section of the forum,  giving his details " Edward Clark 139450, 23rd (Clyde) Fire Command. R.G.A"  as a title, one of the Royal Artillery experts should be able to tell you when and where he enlisted and served.

  

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His full name is Edward Albert Clark but some records they add an e to Clark with complicated things too.  We did find an AE Clarke in 2nd Gloucestershire regiment with a service number but he would habe been too young, although in saying that Teds wife Daisy was from military family her grandfather and great grandfather and uncles etc served with 60th royal rifles her grandfather enlisted at 14, but we have his records.

 

blessings

Deb

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2 minutes ago, Deb R said:

Ok thanks for the tip I have pretty much given up hope of finding anything else out but will give it a shot.

 

i also have this 

 

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Attested to the Gloucestershire Regiment 10/12/1915 but had transferred to the R.G.A. before proceeding overseas as there is no mention of the Gloucestershire reg on his Index card or Medal roll.

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2 minutes ago, Deb R said:

His full name is Edward Albert Clark but some records they add an e to Clark with complicated things too.  We did find an AE Clarke in 2nd Gloucestershire regiment with a service number but he would habe been too young, although in saying that Teds wife Daisy was from military family her grandfather and great grandfather and uncles etc served with 60th royal rifles her grandfather enlisted at 14, but we have his records.

 

blessings

Deb

If you put all the information you have in a new thread you may be surprised by what else the good folk here might find.

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Yeah and that's the whole brick in the wall is not having his Gloucestershire regiment number.  And the whole mystery of the family photo that graced the previous generations lounge rooms they all assumed it was Ted inWW1 but it's wrong medals and uniform.  They all insist it's him ... but it's a mystery :-) 

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Thank you will do 

 

blessings

deb

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An addition to the list, with acknowledgement to David Porter:

 

AFB 104-85 Information to relative regarding enquiry, so far as is known, still serving with his corps

 

Max

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On 28/10/2013 at 06:15, IPT said:

Army Form O 1810 Daily Orders Pt II

 

Is this another name for the daily battalion "Routine Orders"?  

 

The reference to O1810 is in my GF in law's active service record (B103).   I've obtained a copy of the B213 Form (Field Return), and it's missing the page with his name on it.

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17 hours ago, jay26thBn said:

Is this another name for the daily battalion "Routine Orders"?  

 

O 1810 was an Army form which was required to be submitted under Army Order 149 of 1914 in respect of Proficiency Pay under the the Pay Warrant. This said:

"Army Form form O 1614 will be rendered in support of all first charges and for all restorations except for those cases in which proficiency pay has has been forfeited by men readmitted to hospital solely for the administration of a dose of salveson when the restorations will be supported by an entry on Army Form O 1810." - (info from Terry Reeves)

 

Here's the form in use - https://60thbattalioncefca.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/part-ii-daily-orders-no-3-january-9-1917.pdf

 

 

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1 minute ago, IPT said:

 

They do have O 1810, within the routine orders, but I wouldn't know where to start.

 

 

thanks Mate.  

 

I've recently contacted the AWM and they don't have the RO's for the 26th AI Bn during the Gallipoli campaign.  Here's their response:

 

"I'm unaware of the designation for those particular forms, however the following forum may be of assistance - https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/201639-list-of-army-forms/. It appears that one of the contributors may have a copy of the 'Classified list and alphabetical index of army forms and books / War Office, 1916', which will hopefully hold the answer to your question.

According to the index, 'Class C' forms relate to 'Staff and Departments', and 'Class O' forms relate to 'Financial Personal Vouchers'. However, I have located a reference to army form O1810 on the British Archives website that would fit the entry in Frank's service record better.

Regrettably, whilst I have been able to locate a copy of the above-mentioned publication in relation to the Second World War, I have been unable to locate a copy of this earlier edition in our library collection."

 

Their link led me to your post, hence my post to you.  

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