JOSTURM Posted 12 October , 2013 Posted 12 October , 2013 My Grandfather was a Marine on board Champion from 1916 to 1920. I have recently acquired an excellent photograph taken on 24th November 1918 with about 120 men on board - most are Able Seaman, some are Naval officers and its easy to pick out the Marines. My question is....how many would have been on board a Cruiser like Champion in 1918 after the armistice. Is this a photograph of the ships company in which case my Grandfather is definitely in it. But, if the ships company was many more than 120, is this just a photo of some of them ? I attach the photo which has unfortunately been compressed a lot as it would not upload at 300dpi, so its difficuly to see the detail. There are 21 Naval "Officers" - Peaked Caps and Collars/Ties There are 13 Royal Marines (Ranks) There are 80 + Sailors Many thanks Any comments and observations on this photo are very welcome also. Its a postcard sent by "Wal" to his Aunt on 24.11.18 and says: "My Dear Aunt, Just a few cards showing different stunts etc, now the censorship has been removed I shall be able to send some on. Will get a few of the Hun's fleet. i am in good health. Hope you are well. I am on the photo so look carefully. Best of Love Wal." Thanks
ARABIS Posted 12 October , 2013 Posted 12 October , 2013 Warships of World War 1 [No.2 Cruisers] by H.M. Le Fleming gives a complement of 325 for the Caroline class. The Cambrian class which included Champion were a similar size to the Caroline class.
horatio2 Posted 12 October , 2013 Posted 12 October , 2013 This link (scroll down to Scout Cruiser PATHFINDER) gives the breakdown of a slightly smaller cruiser complement of 278. http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBritish-RNShipCrews.htm
JOSTURM Posted 12 October , 2013 Author Posted 12 October , 2013 Thankyou kindly both. So presumably this photograph would have been tsken of about a third of the ships company. Which third, or would it have been an indiscriminate gathering. Maybe some were on leave as the ship was in port ? Any idea on the cirumstances ? Thanks Peter
sotonmate Posted 12 October , 2013 Posted 12 October , 2013 Peter There are Ship's Logs at Kew. If he sent the pic on 24 Nov 1918 it might have been taken in Oct or Nov. The files are : ADM53/37545 Sept : 37546 Oct : 37546 Nov. By that time probably at base port which will be determined fom the Logs.
ARABIS Posted 12 October , 2013 Posted 12 October , 2013 In the photo there is a rating sitting down in the centre holding a board, The picture Is too small to read, can you tell us what it says, it might give a clue. The December 1918 Navy List gives a total of 27 officers listed against Champion.
JOSTURM Posted 13 October , 2013 Author Posted 13 October , 2013 Thanks. I've managed to rescan at 100 dpi to get under the GWF limit. Its not a board - its an Officer sitting behind a big round metal thing (which I'm sure has a nautical name).
JOSTURM Posted 13 October , 2013 Author Posted 13 October , 2013 see also my 17 x shared photographs of HMS Champion under Ships and Navies section. Josturm.
amlovell Posted 4 November , 2013 Posted 4 November , 2013 Thanks. I've managed to rescan at 100 dpi to get under the GWF limit. Its not a board - its an Officer sitting behind a big round metal thing (which I'm sure has a nautical name). Scan.jpg That would be a mushroom vent I think
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