Isaiah Davidson No record of death on CWGC or Such?

[neilston]

Hi Their

I am on the reseach team of the Neilston war Memorial Asoicaition http://www.freewebs.com/theneilstonwarmemorial/ we are researching the names of Soldiers with connection to our Village in East Renfrewshire in Scotland for inclusion on a civic war memorial to be errected next year, We have a Lad named on or local public school http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-ftopic5338.html as a casulity of ww1 but we cannot find any records of him In the CWGC or SNWA, SDGW Etc. we can find him living in Neilston in 1901 aged 13 Son Of Will and Maud (Margt)Davidson 40 crofthead Neilston,but no military records. can any one help with this?

Isaiah Davidson is the lads name

Many Thanks

Matt

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Neilston-War-Memorial-Association/241406065911329

[johnboy]

Just a thought

ISAAC DAVIDSON d 9/11/18 aged 21 yrs.

1/15 Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders

Parents living Govan

[Guest]

This man was from Neilston Alexander Davidson

Mike

[neilston]

Davidson Alexander 1918 March 25th Born Neilston: Enlisted Glasgow: Resident in Neilston Sergeant Killed In Action 40518 SDGW FRANCE Yes Royal Scots 17th Lothian battalion Formerly 6490 5th Res Cavalry Regiment. Grave /mem panel 13/14 Pozieres memorial France Remembered with Honour Grave mem panel 13/14 Pozieres memorial France

We have Alexander on our list as confirmed from Neilston we don't think Isaiah is the same lad

[Theletterwriter]

Matt

I have had a quick look at Scotlands People and am having difficulty tracking down any evidence on Isaiah Davidson on the 1911 Census. Could they have emigrated to the USA and Isaiah was subsequently killed with the American Forces leaving no record from UK sources??

Douglas

[Guest]

1911 Census 5 Kilgrammie? Low Row. Isaiah Davidson (41) colliery labourer (above ground) born Crieff

Isaiah Davidson died (7½ hours) 1920 Dailly Ayr

Isaiah Davidson died (70) Dailly Ayr

Mike

[johnboy]

If you do a forum search someone on here has some school registers. Try School Registers. The fact he went to school there does not mean he came from there.

[The Inspector]

Hii All

According to 1891 census William Davidson, wife MARGARET and children Isaiah aged 3 and Margaret aged 1 are living at Crofthead, Neilston. The 1901 census shows Will his wife MARGT. Isaiah and Margt. N Davidson @ 40 Crofthead. Where does MAUD come from? A William and Margaret Davidson emigrated to USA in 1910 and became naturalised in 1918. Records show she had a daughter Daisy married to one Horace McMillan who also emigrated. Is Daisy daughter Margaret??

Regards Barry

The USA immigrants would appear NOT to be Isaiah's parents both shown same age which is not correct

Edited 6 October , 2013 by The Inspector

[Guest]

You're on the right track Inspector. My post #6 is ********

Mike

[Theletterwriter]

Following The Inspector's post, it would appear that William Davidson, his wife Margaret and daughter Margaret were still residing at Crofthead Cottages, Neilston at the time of the 1911 Census. No sign their son Isaiah.

Douglas

[neilston]

Hii All

According to 1891 census William Davidson, wife MARGARET and children Isaiah aged 3 and Margaret aged 1 are living at Crofthead, Neilston. The 1901 census shows Will his wife MARGT. Isaiah and Margt. N Davidson @ 40 Crofthead. Where does MAUD come from? A William and Margaret Davidson emigrated to USA in 1910 and became naturalised in 1918. Records show she had a daughter Daisy married to one Horace McMillan who also emigrated. Is Daisy daughter Margaret??

Regards Barry

The USA immigrants would appear NOT to be Isaiah's parents both shown same age which is not correct

Hi Robert

Sorry My error it was 1901 census i read and i could not make out Margt Thought it read Maud!

Regards

Matt

[Guest]

Not sure if this is him, it must be, but the age is wrong? If this is him, then he obviously did not die in the Great War

27/12/1928 at St. Thomas, Neilston, Alexander Isaiah Davidson aged 24, (Ironmonger) of Crofthead Cottage Neilston, married Grace Gallagher Bonner (37)

Edited 23:10

Mike

[The Inspector]

Hi All,

For what it's worth the 1881 census has William Davidson b. abt 1866 Glasgow living with his parents Isaiah b1844 Ireland/Jane (Nee Gilchrist) and siblings in Crieff, one called Isaiah his younger brother. William's occupation is a Painter's Apprentice. Would appear to be the same William on the 1891 census who is a Painter. So it's the correct family. If someone can check the marriage of William to Margaret ? in approx. 1887 it may be possible to check some more. William would appear to have kept the family tradition and called his son after his own father and brother.

Regards Barry

[johnboy]

Have you tried to find out if the school or local education authority have any records for the ordering of the memorial. They may have some copy docs of the information given on the deaths which may have more details.

[IPT]

I suspect Isaiah is actually Alexander, and that the Mike's c1904 Alexander Isaiah is perhaps his nephew.

Can anyone find Alexander Davidson on a census, and prove he is a different man?

[The Inspector]

Hi All

Serjt 40518 Alexander A Davidson is recorded on the Pozieres Memorial according to Find A Grave Index. So perhaps it can't be him!!! The man we are after is Isaiah as per the Neilston memorial.

Regards Barry

[Guest]

Hi All

Serjt 40518 Alexander A Davidson is recorded on the Pozieres Memorial according to Find A Grave Index. So perhaps it can't be him!!! The man we are after is Isaiah as per the Neilston memorial.

Regards Barry

SDGW says he was born and resident Neilston?

Mike

[The Inspector]

Hi

Quite right Mike but he doesn't have an initial "I". All the previous censuses match up with relations same as a tree on Ancestry. There isn't an Alexander mentioned on any of them. SDGW doesn't have any middle names for him.

I still think we need to check his parents' marriage to be able to widen the search.

Regards Barry

Can someone with access to Scottish records also check the Birth/baptism of Alexander Isaiah born 1904.

Edited 7 October , 2013 by The Inspector

[corisande]

I suspect Isaiah is actually Alexander, and that the Mike's c1904 Alexander Isaiah is perhaps his nephew.

ScotlandsPeople shows an Isaiah Davidson born Neilston in 1888. He does not appear to have "Alexander" in his name

[Theletterwriter]

Corisande is correct when he indicates Isaiah Davidson was born in 1888. His parents were William and Margaret. His age of 13 on the 1901 Census ties in as does his parents name.

The Alexander Davidson born in 1904 was born in Barrhead in the Parish of Neilston. Barrhead and Neilston are two distinct towns.

Douglas

[Guest]

It doesn't look like he died in Scotland?

Mike

[neilston]

This plaque originated from the South church.

“Sacred to the memory of the men of this congregation who fell in the Great War.”

2nd Lt. A.R Ferguson
Sgt. I. Davidson
Sgt. A. Winning MM
Cpl. R. McLintock
L/Cpl. W. Andrew
L/Cpl. J. Paton
Pte. A. Craig
Pte. A. Gebbie
Pte. H. B. Johnston
Pte. P. McGuffock
Pte. W. Paterson
Pte. T. E. Shemwell
Rman. W. Hopkinson
Gun. R. Inglis

“Henceforth a Crown”
1914 – 1919

[keithmroberts]

Just a thought - have you checked the electoral registers to confirm that the family were still around at the end of the war, and also to see whether the chap is on the 1918 absent voters list. Just one more thing to look at.

Keith

[neilston]

Guys thanks for your help

This project has been fascinating and hard work. but most rewarding in order to get these lads remembered

we have a small team working through over 400 odd names who where registered as Born Neilston, When in fact this was in many cases it was "The Parish of Neilston" and these lads where on the other town memorial near us- Barrhead. I don't want to miss any lads who should be on our new proposed memorial.

we have a quite few double names .Is this unusual for such a small village?

Alexander Pollok x2 Archibald Hay x 2 John Leonard x 2 also two William Blacks two Craig Alexander's and so on

Cheers Matt

[neilston]

Just a thought - have you checked the electoral registers to confirm that the family were still around at the end of the war, and also to see whether the chap is on the 1918 absent voters list. Just one more thing to look at.

Keith

we have the parents here a 5 Crofthead cottages but No Isaiah 1918