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Could anyone assist in possibly identifying the following patch combination

'a red triangle over three equally sized blue bars'

thanks Mark

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Mark

This is not the answer but it might help focus your search.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=148457&page=3

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Gareth,

Thank you hope all is well at 'Bovy'.

Mark

Mark

This is not the answer but it might help focus your search.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=148457&page=3


GT, many thanks I hope to have a picture shortly. Mark

D Company, 16th Lancs Fus.is recorded as same.

Cheers,

GT.

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Gareth,

Thank you hope all is well at 'Bovy'.

Mark

GT, many thanks I hope to have a picture shortly. Mark

Struggling on Mark, struggling on. Hope all is well in Yorkshire.

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Not the answer either, but 12/KRRC's patch was a black triangle over three equally sized black bars.

The schema in 20th (Light) Division was a shape for each brigade with 1,2,3 or 4 bars for the four battalions in each brigade (by order of precedence)

59 Bde - Circle

60 Bde - Triangle

61 Bde - Square

If a similar schema applied in other divisions, but using different colours, then you're looking for the 3rd ranking battalion in the 2nd brigade in whatever division.

That's a very BIG IF though ;-)

Cheers,

Mark

EDIT: just to clarify - as far as I'm aware, ALL these symbols were black only, but this is a subject where I have no direct contemporary source: all my info has come from other Pals here on the board.

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Thanks Mark some good info.

Not the answer either, but 12/KRRC's patch was a black triangle over three equally sized black bars.

The schema in 20th (Light) Division was a shape for each brigade with 1,2,3 or 4 bars for the four battalions in each brigade (by order of precedence)

59 Bde - Circle

60 Bde - Triangle

61 Bde - Square

If a similar schema applied in other divisions, but using different colours, then you're looking for the 3rd ranking battalion in the 2nd brigade in whatever division.

That's a very BIG IF though ;-)

Cheers,

Mark

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Hi,

To complete GT, here the scheme of the 16th Lancs (Service Bon) (2nd Salford Pals)

4vig68.jpg

PS : All is well in North of France ;)

Cheers

David

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Hi,

To complete GT, here the scheme of the 16th Lancs (Service Bon) (2nd Salford Pals)

4vig68.jpg

PS : All is well in North of France ;)

Cheers

David

2nd Salford Pals were in 96 Bde, 32nd Division. Within 96 Bde, they were third in the order of precedence (=three horizontal bars) and 96 Bde were the second brigade in 32nd Division (=triangle).

It looks like a very similar schema to 20th (Light) Division with the addition of the "battalion" bars using colour to denote the Company while the "brigade" shape at the top retains the same red colour. I have no info on whether this was used in the 20th (Light) Division. Everything I've seen only mentions black - appropriate to one of the two specialist light/rifles divisions.

Also there would be a problem with the HQ Coy using the "brigade" shape alone - what would the HQ Coys in the other battalions in 96 Bde use?

Does any Pal have a better idea of the intended logic of these schema and whether any such logic was applied to more than one division?

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