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We have this large photograph (15.5" x 20"0) in a brown frame featuring three soldiers. The soldier on the right is Pte. Samuel Brown 12393, 8th North Staffs Regiment who was killed on 31/07/2016, we do not know who the other two soldiers are but we have a separate photo of the soldier on the left. We also have a separate photograph of Sam which has been imposed (if that's the right word?) on the main photograph. Sam has his gun and it was suggested at the Staffordshire Regiment Museum that it might have been taken in the trenches, he wouldn't have posed for a studio photograph with his gun, would he? The soldier in the other small photograph has a cane/stick, would he have been an officer and we are presuming that all three soldiers are in the Staffordshire Regiment. I gather that a picture like this would have been an expensive thing to do in the early 1900's so the feeling is that they were probably related, but we just don't know.

Both small photographs are in the form of postcards and 'Rotherham' is on the back of Sam's photo.

We would really appreciate your input and expertise in understanding this picture.

X Samuel Brown Photo.doc

X Unknown Soldier.doc

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Welcome to the forum.

Samuel was born in Smallthorne, and Ancestry has Army service records for John Richard Brown, born in Smallthorne in about 1884. He served, according to the Ancestry index, in the 9th Staffordshire Regiment with number 12391 {close to Samuel's number}. Could he be a relation to Samuel?

Regards,

Alf McM

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Unknown soldier is not an officer. He holds a swagger cane, possibly a riding crop. Other ranks would carry these to look "dandy". So posing with one was deriguer.

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Welcome to the forum

In my opinion, the subject with rifle is a studio shot done with a back cloth and the rifle is a photographers prop, the rifle is an older model, although they were in use in the Great War, the subject is not wearing any field equipment that one would expect to see.

The fact that his image has been included suggests a family relationship and the photographic addition was often the result of the death of the subject, its inclusion being of some comfort to the grieving family.

regards

khaki

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I've seen a photo of a Royal Engineer sapper who is holding a swagger stick in his photo so this must have been a commonly used prop in the photographer's studio.

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It was. It is very uncommon to see a standing subject not holding something - back of a chair, stick, wife - so the photographer kept a supply of them.

Well, not wives, obviously. That would be bigamy. Big of him too (boom, boom).

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