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Posted

Hello,

Just purchased the 1914 star to 10911 GNR A.L.SCOTT 32nd Bde RFA

I have the following information:

Born Herne Hill; To France 23/8/14; KIA F&F 30/10/15.

When was he born ? Was he married ? Family ?

Any information is appreciated.

Ronald

Posted

SDGW has him as Albert Leonard Scott

born Herne hill

Died 30.10.1915 F & F - KIA

Enlisted in London

Rank - Gunner #10911 RHA & RFA

MIC has him as

A L Scott #10911 32nd Brigade RFA (Someone called momo22 from Staffordshire on ancestry corrected his name on 17.03.2012 but they don't seem to have signed in to Ancestry recently) - Qualifying Date for 1914 Star was 23.08.1914 (WS/2/7412) - someone called S.Vines made an aplication for his 1914 Star on behalf of his wife in respect of the services of his late brother Gunner Leonard Scott on 16.06.1919 - Address was: #43, Easton Road, Raynes Park, Merton, SW

CWGC has him as Scott A.L. buried/remembered in Houplines Communal Cemetery Extension - Grave ref I.A.5

There is no Service Record as far as I can see?

I'll post this & go look some more .......

Edit -

Albert Leonard Scott baptised 12.12.1888 in St Jude, East Brixton, Lambeth, Surrey.

Parents: George Scott a Labourer & Ann Scott.

Address: #16, Hamilton Road

Birth - registered 1st Q 1889 Lambeth Vol 1d page 591

1891 Census - lives with parents at #16, Hamilton Road, Brixton, Lambeth, London. He is aged 2 - Father is a Platelayer. (There are other kids - Emily aged 18, Louisa aged 16, George aged 14, Walter aged 12 & Jane or Lane (female) aged 8) - {In 1871 his parents lived in Tuddenham in Worlington, Suffolk}.

1901 Census - lives at #8a, Hamilton Road, Civil Parsih Lambeth (Ecclesiastical Parish St Judes East Brixton; Municipal Ward is Herne Hill), with his parents - he is aged 12. His Father is a Railway Plate Layer, there are no other children.

Couldn't find him in 1911? Was he already in the RHA/RFA & serving abroad? Worth a look? Maybe some expert on RHA & RFA couls advise on his 10911 number for enlistment date?

Posted

Thank you very much for all this information !!

I don't undertsand the following.Was S.Vines the brother of Leonard ? And did he made the aplication for the wife of Leonard ? Then why is he called Vines instead of Scott:

S.Vines made an aplication for his 1914 Star on behalf of his wife in respect of the services of his late brother Gunner Leonard Scott on 16.06.1919 - Address was: #43, Easton Road, Raynes Park, Merton, SW

Ronald

Posted

With his age and that number, I would suspect he was SPECIAL RESERVIST, as that number would have been issued to a regular in c.1900 [when he was c.12], or otherwise c.1910 to a RFRA special reservist. by comparison the number 10749 was issued in 1900 and to an RFRA in 13/9/1910. .. 11096 in october 1910. It will have been used again in September?1914 when a new series began. i would suggest he was a mobilised special reservist .. he 'could' have been doing his training and so in a military camp in 1911 at census time [there are quite a few reservists in the census returns]

Posted

S.Vines made the claim on behalf of the soldier's sister, to whom he must have been married. You'd need to find a marriage between S.Vines & a ?? Scott to be certain which sister it was. (possibiities are - Elizabeth, Emily, Louisa or Jane/Lane)? I think that it might be Jane Scott married to Samuel William Vines in Kensington in the 3rd Q 1900 (vol 1a page 421)? In the 1911 Census they lived #342A Kingston Road, Merton SW

Posted

Thanks Black Sapper,

I was confused by the words: his late brother: S.Vines made an aplication for his 1914 Star on behalf of his wife in respect of the services of his late brother Gunner Leonard Scott on 16.06.1919 - Address was: #43, Easton Road, Raynes Park, Merton, SW

Ronald

Posted

Yep, me too initially, but then accepted that it was probably a clerical mistake on the card?

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