Royal Irish Rifles Uniform?

[ellesmagee]

Hello

I am attaching a photo

Unfortunately It is blurred when magnified

Is it possible to confirm if the Uniform is that of the Royal Irish Rifles?

[Anneca]

Ellesmagee, it is a pity there are no cap badges which would help to identify the RIR. Perhaps someone might come up with an answer.

Anne

[Khaki]

The collar badges are of the type worn by artillery (bursting bomb) i think and also by fusiliers etc. I am no badge expert as demonstrated elsewhere, but did the R.I.R where this sort of collar badge??

khaki

[squirrel]

RA, RE and most of the Fusilier Regiments wore a bursting bomb as a collar badge. The only one it is not is the Royal Irish Fusiliers as theirs had a Coronet above it.

Royal Irish Rifles collar badge was a crowned harp, essentially a smaller version of the cap badge.

[ellesmagee]

Its a shame the image is indistinct

Many thanks to you all though for taking the time to assist

[spof]

Being a Rifles regiment, wouldn't R.I.Rif also have black buttons?

[ellesmagee]

Ive checked my book ""The History of the first seven battalions:The Royal irish Rifles" by Cyril falls The RIR were part of the 29th Brigade, 10th(Irish) Division.

The other battalions in the Brigade were the 5th Royal Irish, the 5th Connaught Rangers and the 6th Leinster Regiment. By August 1915 and the battle of Sari Bair, the 10th Hampshire Battalion had replaced the 5th Royal Irish Regiment in the 29th Brigade.

Would this be of any help in trying to identify the uniform?

Would there have been much socialising between soldiers outside of their Brigade?

Thanks again for everyone's assistance

[T8HANTS]

Agreed that the RIR would wear black buttons, and these lads are far too bright and shiny for Riflemen. Almost looks as if the standing man has a trio up which would make it post war. Or he is an old soldier with a Boer war pair and something else

[MBrockway]

Being a Rifles regiment, wouldn't R.I.Rif also have black buttons?

Not always a reliable guide - I have pics of KRRC and RB with unblackened buttons.

The collar badge is definitely not RIR though!

[spof]

Thanks Mark.

I know there are always exceptions to rules especially with anything involving Rifles!

Glen

[tony paley]

Thanks Mark.

I know there are always exceptions to rules especially with anything involving Rifles!

Glen

Ive checked my book ""The History of the first seven battalions:The Royal irish Rifles" by Cyril falls The RIR were part of the 29th Brigade, 10th(Irish) Division.

The other battalions in the Brigade were the 5th Royal Irish, the 5th Connaught Rangers and the 6th Leinster Regiment. By August 1915 and the battle of Sari Bair, the 10th Hampshire Battalion had replaced the 5th Royal Irish Regiment in the 29th Brigade.

Would this be of any help in trying to identify the uniform?

Would there have been much socialising between soldiers outside of their Brigade?

Thanks again for everyone's assistance

I am looking at collar badges of the Royal Irish Fusiliers and the Royal Inniskilling fusi;liers. The RIF does not have the coronet on the collar badge, the collar badges shown ion the photograph are very similar to the above two Irish Regiments.

Tony P

[squirrel]

According to Churchill, The History of the British Army Collar Badge, and Dress Regulations 1911, the Royal Irish Fusiliers wore the coronet and bursting bomb with the Barossa eagle on the latter.

[Murrough]

Post war I presume?

[squirrel]

I would guess so. Great picture and thanks for posting it.

[Jacobite]

Would it of been black kings crown buttons or actual RIR type?