Terry Denham Posted 12 September , 2004 Share Posted 12 September , 2004 The Forum has seen several posts announcing that a previously non-commemorated casualty has been accepted by MoD/CWGC for war grave recognition after eighty years or so - usually through the work of researchers or relatives. Recently, just such a group of researchers has achieved an outstanding success in getting twenty-one naval casualties added to CWGC's database in one go. This was the result of dedicated research and determination. They are remaining anonymous but I think their efforts are worthy of praise on this Forum. Most of the men died after discharge through service related illness or wounds - usually the hardest category to get accepted due to the level of proof required. There is also a further naval group under consideration by MoD. For anyone who has a possible 'non-com' in their records, this has to be an encouragement to press forward with putting a case to MoD/CWGC. The men listed below now have their recognition after so long out in the cold and twenty of their names will appear on the United Kingdom 1914-1918 Memorial as their grave locations are unknown as yet. The last in the list is buried in West Coker (St Martin) Churchyard, Somerset, UK. ROYAL MARINES Pte Norman Charles CLATWORTHY Died 21.01.17 Spr Cornelius Henry CURRELL Died 28.03.21 Pte Frederick Montague DEAN Died 01.11.19 Spr Harold FOX Died 26.11.17 Saddler Charles Walter HALL Died 11.05.18 Spr James William HART Died 21.12.17 Pte Thomas Winder HAYDOCK Died 16.03.18 Pte Ralph SIMPSON Died 24.03.18 L/Cpl William WARREN Died 02.03.16 ROYAL MARINE LIGHT INFANTRY Pte Edwin Bedford AMBLER Died 31.03.17 Pte Theophilus BURTON Died 25.02.18 Cpl Joseph BUSH Died 13.03.19 Sgt John William COOK 02.06.19 QMS Herbert Collis FINCHAM Died 17.12.20 Pte Albert Henry GILFOY Died 11.07.19 Sgt William LAW Died 29.12.20 Pte George James NELSON Died 24.09.20 Pte Thomas RAMSDALE Died 24.09.20 L/Cpl Arnold SMITH Died 11.01.19 L/Cpl William John WALKER Died 05.06.17 Pte Lot HAYWARD Died 18.11.17 May they rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 12 September , 2004 Share Posted 12 September , 2004 May they rest in peace. Here, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 12 September , 2004 Share Posted 12 September , 2004 Recently, just such a group of researchers has achieved an outstanding success in getting twenty-one naval casualties added to CWGC's database in one go. This was the result of dedicated research and determination. They are remaining anonymous but I think their efforts are worthy of praise on this Forum. Whoever they are, they've done a wonderful job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete Wood Posted 12 September , 2004 Share Posted 12 September , 2004 'They' may wish to remain anonymous, but there are many of us (I'm sure) that can work out who is behind this. Well done, guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjames Posted 12 September , 2004 Share Posted 12 September , 2004 "They" did'nt forget these forgotten heroes. Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosters Posted 13 September , 2004 Share Posted 13 September , 2004 Last Thursday I heard another good piece of news. A medal collector researching a 1914 star discovered that this man was one of the first two Glosters killed in the First World War, 26th August 1914. Both had no known graves. However, while looking for a grave at Landrecies, where the Glosters fought their first action of the war, someone noticed two graves at the back of a small cemetery. 'Unknown private of the Gloucester Regiment, killed August 1914' and 'Unknown L/Cpl. of the Gloucester Regiment, killed August 1914'. It was clear from all the evidence (War Diary, Battalion history etc) that these could only be L/Cpl. C.H. Hackling and Pte. G.F. Cole. Putting all the evidence together he wrote to the CWGC and they have accepted his evidence and so, 90 years after their deaths, L/Cpl. Hackling and Pte Cole now will have identified graves and are no longer missing. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Robertson Posted 13 September , 2004 Share Posted 13 September , 2004 Well done to all concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 13 September , 2004 Share Posted 13 September , 2004 Raising a glass to to all those involved & to those now properly remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 14 September , 2004 Share Posted 14 September , 2004 Good news, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john w. Posted 15 September , 2004 Share Posted 15 September , 2004 Incredible... great news, takes time and patience John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 15 September , 2004 Share Posted 15 September , 2004 Excellent news, it just goes to show that 90 years later these men are not forgotten and rightly so. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hill 60 Posted 15 September , 2004 Share Posted 15 September , 2004 Outstanding work and an inspiration to all of us, well done one and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 11 August , 2009 Share Posted 11 August , 2009 Name: GILFOY, ALBERT HENRY Initials: A H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: Late of 2nd R.M. Bn. R.N. Div. Date of Death: 11/07/1919 Service No: PO/16706 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL Grave Found Southampton Old Cemetery Section Q130 Grave 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 11 August , 2009 Share Posted 11 August , 2009 Name: LAW, WILLIAM Initials: W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Sergeant (Acting) Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: Late of Deal Bn. R.N. Div. Date of Death: 29/12/1920 Service No: PO/13196 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel. Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL grave found Gosport Ann's Hill Cemetery Plot 120 space 25 Name: RAMSDALE, THOMAS Initials: T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: Late of 2nd R.M. Bn. R.N. Div. Date of Death: 28/12/1916 Service No: PLY/832(S) N.B.: Recent research has shown that Private Ramsdale is buried here. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: CC. Con. 446 Cemetery: MANCHESTER (GORTON) CEMETERY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 11 August , 2009 Share Posted 11 August , 2009 Well done, Chris. Your hard graft seems to be paying off. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 11 August , 2009 Share Posted 11 August , 2009 John more to come - I have sent about 50 emails so far this week Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 8 September , 2009 Share Posted 8 September , 2009 QMS Herbert Collis FINCHAM Died 17.12.20 Grave found by Izzy Liverpool Kirkdale Cemetery CofE Sect 8 grave 183 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 8 September , 2009 Share Posted 8 September , 2009 Amazing dedication. Wepp done to those involved. Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 10 September , 2009 Share Posted 10 September , 2009 L/Cpl William John WALKER Died 05.06.17 Grave found by Izzy "West Derby Cemetery Liverpool section 3 No 2259 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 26 October , 2009 Share Posted 26 October , 2009 Spr Cornelius Henry CURRELL Died 28.03.21 Grave found Willesden New Cemetery grave 906 section Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Murphy Posted 26 October , 2009 Share Posted 26 October , 2009 I have just seen this thread for the first time, amazing job done. Congratulations to the anonymous team of researchers and to Terry Denham, Chris "Gravefinder General" Harley and their friends in locating the graves. Not Forgotten Best regards, Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 18 January , 2012 Share Posted 18 January , 2012 L/Cpl William John WALKER Died 05.06.17 Grave found by Izzy "West Derby Cemetery Liverpool section 3 No 2259 " Name: WALKER, WILLIAM JOHN Initials: W J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: Late Plymouth Bn. R.N. Div. Date of Death: 05/06/1917 Service No: PLY/11958 N.B.: Recent research has shown that Lance Corporal Walker is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Section 3. CE. Grave 2259. Cemetery: LIVERPOOL (WEST DERBY) CEMETERY Commemoration Moved From UK BOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 18 January , 2012 Share Posted 18 January , 2012 As this was a very old post some of the grave finds have slipped by unnoticed so will update this thread Name: FOX, HAROLD Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Sapper Regiment/Service: Royal Marines Secondary Unit Text: Late of 1st Field Coy. R.N. Div. Date of Death: 26/11/1917 Service No: Deal/1109(S) Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: UNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE Skegness St Clements Name: HALL, CHARLES WALTER Initials: C W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Saddler Regiment/Service: Royal Marines Secondary Unit Text: Late of Div.Train, 63rd R.N. Div. Age: 33 Date of Death: 11/05/1918 Service No: Deal/2577(S) Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Western II.YP. 5 Cemetery: LEWES CEMETERY Name: SIMPSON, RALPH Initials: R Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Marines Secondary Unit Text: Late of 1st Field Ambulance, R.N. Div. Date of Death: 24/03/1918 Service No: Depot/3660(S) Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel. Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL Harton Cemetery Name: SMITH, ARNOLD Initials: A Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: Late of Plymouth Bn. R.N. Div. Age: 26 Date of Death: 11/01/1919 Service No: PLY/40(S) Additional information: Son of Sarah E Smith, of Brownroyd, Bradford. N.B.: Recent research has shown that Lance Corporal Smith is buried here. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Cons. L. Grave 640 Cemetery: BRADFORD (SCHOLEMOOR) CEMETERY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 25 January , 2012 Share Posted 25 January , 2012 Name: FINCHAM, HERBERT COLLIS Initials: H C Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Quartermaster Serjeant (Acting) Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: Late of Chatham Bn. R.N. Div. Date of Death: 17/12/1920 Service No: Chatham/7870 N.B.: Recent research has shown that Quartermaster Serjeant (Acting) Fincham is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. C/E. 183. Cemetery: LIVERPOOL (KIRKDALE) CEMETERY Moved From UK BOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 2 February , 2012 Share Posted 2 February , 2012 NELSON, GEORGE JAMES Rank:Private Service No:CH/19375 Date of Death:24/09/1920 Regiment/Service:Royal Marine Light Infantry Late of 2nd R.M. Bn. R.N. Div. Panel ReferenceAddenda Panel MemorialBROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL Norwich Cemetery Norfolk With thanks to Liz & Kevin Crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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