warproject Posted 20 May , 2013 Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Hi I am just after some advice after finding 2 personal photographs of my relatives on the above web site and grave photographs to George Sibley and Sidney A Eady accredited to George Evans CWGC/ABMC (#6) He has • 723,104 Memorials Added • 673,287 Memorials Managed • 1,069 Memorials/week As these photo are in the public domain does that mean anyone can take a copy of them and put on another web site without permission of the owner. I wondered if anyone else has had the same experience. Really upset as I was going to do a web site of my Soldiers and realise that other photos may also appear without my consent. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Posted 20 May , 2013 Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Mrs Roxy is a pro photographer; I'll ask her about copyright law tonight. I think that, nowadays, the file will tell you what camera tok the photo, so the individual will not be able to suggest that it is his photograph; it just looks very similar to yours! Roxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 20 May , 2013 Share Posted 20 May , 2013 The picture of George looks like it is definitely yours, Sandy (i.e. it has the poppy "watermark" on it). I think the picture of the grave has been photographed and added by a local photographer - i.e. it wasn't the exact same one you have. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 20 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Hi Roxy. It is mine as my husband put the poppy on for me. Thanks for replying. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 20 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Hi Steve. The photo is more than likely the one another GWF member got me years ago and I lost it, hence your kind offer recently. The one of Sidney is a think one I have from the British War Graves so not the same. Therefore is that where this person is collecting them all from, here. I have spent the whole week-end gathering information together for my web site but now do not think I will try to do it, besides doing a excel file for another GWF member on the TNA War Diaries. Thanks for replying. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 20 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Well, well amazing. Photo of my Uncle George has been removed after sending them this link. Now I have sent proof of Sidney so lets see if that disappears also. http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=107717&hl=%2Bsidney+%2Beady Picture also on forum here. I would still like to know how they accept photographs on their site. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 20 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2013 International Wargraves Photography Project statement RECENTLY we have discovered a great number of images uploaded to our Memorial pages which were lifted from other web sites in violation of copyright laws. These will be reported to FindAGrave and the Contributor in question IMMEDIATELY when discovered. Obviously not the same rules for FIND A GRAVE. No apology to myself, just a curt e-mail. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 20 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Sidney has now been removed. Still worried about putting anything into the public domain now. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pighills Posted 20 May , 2013 Share Posted 20 May , 2013 Unfortunately Sandy, you've found out the hard way that people do copy, and try to pass off as their own, photos and work by others. All you can do, if you don't want your work freely available to all, is to do as you have already done and watermark it all. That, or just not put it in the public domain. In a perfect world we'd be able to trust people, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charpoi Warrior Posted 21 May , 2013 Share Posted 21 May , 2013 I think there is some confusion between "public domain" and "in the public domain"; in the former the copyright holder has given it up or there is no existing copyright, the latter simply means it is available to the public but someone holds the copyright. In the latter case the holder can enforce it in the normal manner. As a caveat to Pighills's comment, putting a watermark on it doesn't give you copyright, it only is a claim to the copyright which you have in this case. I have seen copyright watermarks applied by people who patently do not have copyright of the image concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 21 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 21 May , 2013 Thank you both for your advice. Hubby says not to give up so I guess I will have to copyright all the pictures etc I may put on a web site. Not sure what is the "normal manner", I am a bit thick about copyright law. Example I suppose here. http://twgpp.org/inf....php?id=2884509 I do not object to them being on the www, just that someone else is accredited with them. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charpoi Warrior Posted 21 May , 2013 Share Posted 21 May , 2013 Not sure what is the "normal manner", I am a bit thick about copyright law. So am I! And I'm a bit sketchy on IP law in general. If they won't take the photo down or credit you with it then your recourse is probably via the courts. There is a widespread belief that copyright (and legislation in general) don't apply on the internet so this is sometimes done in ignorance rather than malice. On Tumblr for example it seems to be common for posters to state they don't have copyright and if you object to their use then to tell them and they'll take it down, which is exactly the wrong presumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlefieldPhotographer Posted 31 May , 2013 Share Posted 31 May , 2013 I am a contributor to Find A Grave, and the quote above referencing International Wargraves Photography Project was from my bio page. As for any photos one finds on FindAGrave please email me at thefallen.remembered@gmail.com with a link to the page and a brief note as to the circumstances, and I will send it on to an Administrator I work closely with and have it removed ASAP. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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