Myrtle Posted 14 May , 2013 Share Posted 14 May , 2013 I have come across an Australian Blog called "Springwood Historians" which mentions that three of the four Baynes brothers from Mulgoa, NSW "perished as a direct result of WW1". I have found that the eldest and the youngest did die while serving with British regiments but the second eldest, Frederick Charles Beindge Baynes, appears to have died on 8th February 1914 of enteric in Mitchell, Queensland. Is there any particular reason that his death in Mitchell of enteric prior to the start of the war would have been connected to WW1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin ss002d6252 Posted 14 May , 2013 Admin Share Posted 14 May , 2013 Is there any particular reason that his death in Mitchell of enteric prior to the start of the war would have been connected to WW1 ? Family story that was distorted over time and has been taken at face value ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 14 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2013 Thanks Craig Yes other elements of this family's story indicate your suggestion as a possibility but I just wondered if there is anything that supports the comment on the Springwood website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddell Posted 14 May , 2013 Share Posted 14 May , 2013 Myrtle, Might be worth contacting the writer of the blog. They may have more sources. Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 14 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2013 Scott I have sent a question and am waiting for a reply. I wondered if Mitchel was an army training area but as it appears that Frederick Baynes was at one time a station employee I think it more than likely that he was working in the Mitchel area. I am wondering if it was common at that time for people to die from enteric fever when working on sheep or cattle stations ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 14 May , 2013 Share Posted 14 May , 2013 Myrtle, in answer to your last post I would say it was quite a common cause of death in those days. Typhoid is generally contracted with drinking infected water or food contaminated with faeces, a common thing to be found on sheep or cattle stations. For example unclean butchering habits and infected meat or drinking water from a source that no one in their right mind would drink from these days. Further, Mitchell is about 700 km from Brisbane with only a few small towns inbetween and it may have not been possible to get medical treatment for his condition in time to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksimpson Posted 15 May , 2013 Share Posted 15 May , 2013 Hi HEre is George, the only one I can find on CWGC who it states comes from Mulgoa. - http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3057508/BAYNES,%20GEORGE%20NEPEAN%20BEINDGE Frederick was buried in Mitchell cemetery, given the date of 2 Feb from QLD BDM , no WW1 experience. A tree gives his birth as 1891, so no previous service either unless local? Also only 2 other brothers, the one above and Reginald F B Baynes. Here are all the Australian deaths for Baynes in WW1 - http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/?Name= Baynes&ServiceNumber=&Unit=&Conflict=First World War , none there. also none enlisted in the Australian Army - http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/?Name= Baynes&ServiceNumber=&Unit= They obviously moved to Queensland sometime from NSW. No other information on that tree. regards Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 15 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2013 DavidB Thank you for your reply and clarification re. enteric fever. Robert I already have information on George who was Frederick's youngest brother. There is a bit of a mystery on him as he was confirmed as 2/Lt with the RFC on 1st August 1916 but then died from spotted fever (probably meningococcal meningitis) at Queenborough as a Rifleman with the 6th Rifle Brigade 6th February 1917. At the moment I am trying to find out more about his move from RFC to Rifle Brigade.The third brother who died was Lt Richard Henry Beindge Baynes, the eldest, who was kia 14th July 1916 while serving with the 1st Btn. Royal Welsh Fusiliers. He is listed on the Thiepval Memorial. By the way, Frederick appears to be the only one of the Baynes family to move to Mitchel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksimpson Posted 15 May , 2013 Share Posted 15 May , 2013 Hi Myrtle Here is his service record , they are not online, so someone has to go and look them up - http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/s/res?_aq=Richard+Henry+Beindge+Baynes&_ep=&_or1=&_or2=&_or3=&_nq1=&_nq2=&_nq3=&_sd=1914&_ed=1918&_col=all&_sw=ref&_cr1=wo&_cr2=&_cr3=&_ps=15&_ro=any&_rd=&_rsd=&_red=&_fr=&_st=adv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksimpson Posted 15 May , 2013 Share Posted 15 May , 2013 Just for everyones interest I found this - http://www.kenthisto...p?opic=13632.0 Here he is on probation - http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/29702/supplements/7898/page.pdf and one from Trove - roll of honour down left side - http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15730943 This could be George -- http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8189624 in RAF files! regards Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 15 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2013 As you can see from the Trove details the impression at the time of the announcement of George's death in the newspaper, was that he was still with the RFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 15 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2013 Possibly George didn't inform his family that he was no longer a probationary officer with the RFC as his probation was cancelled due to "cribbing at examination". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 22 May , 2013 Admin Share Posted 22 May , 2013 Hi Myrtle Here is his service record , they are not online, so someone has to go and look them up - http://discovery.nat...d=&_fr=&_st=adv Which I did https://www.dropbox.com/sh/igzuzzmkf7cui5e/kYiyROV0My Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 25 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 25 May , 2013 Thank you SPOF for posting the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathyaus Posted 17 September , 2016 Share Posted 17 September , 2016 I am currently researching this soldier & would appreciate any information. I have messaged spof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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