AndrewThornton Posted 13 October , 2021 Posted 13 October , 2021 Do you happen to know the date of the clipping and which newspaper it came from, Dave?
dave1963 Posted 13 October , 2021 Posted 13 October , 2021 (edited) I am sorry, but it has been clipped hard. I think it is a local rag to the Woolwich area of South East London. It be before 1966 as that was when he died. Edited 13 October , 2021 by dave1963
AndrewThornton Posted 9 January , 2022 Posted 9 January , 2022 (edited) An updated list of known Old Contemptibles' Association Badge Numbers issued to Chums - a further 40 have been added: Chum J. E. Davies 3 Founder (Hackney) Branch[1] Chum J. Clark 7 Founder (Hackney) Branch[2] Chum R. J. Blake 20 Founder (Hackney) Branch[3] Chum G. F. Milne 27 Founder (Hackney) Branch[4] Chum W. Murray 75 Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum D. H. Brewer 138 Founder (Hackney) Branch[5] Chum C. Portway 166 Founder (Hackney) Branch[6] Chum J. Morris 350 Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum J. Bovill 396 Founder (Hackney) Branch[7] Chum A. E. Kent 417 Founder (Hackney) Branch[8] Chum A. J. Course 432 Founder (Hackney) Branch (Badge Lost)[9] Chum F. Murray 551 Founder (Hackney) Branch[10] Chum E. J. Brown 557 Founder (Hackney) Branch[11] Chum A. W. Austin M.C., M.M. 597 Founder (Hackney) Branch[12] Chum E. A. Hadaway 846 Founder (Hackney) Branch[13] Chum G. Barrett 1029 Founder (Hackney) Branch[14] Chum D. J. Sweeney 1373 Founder (Hackney) Branch[15] Chum J. H. Binley 1783 Woolwich & District Branch Chum H. J. W. Monk 2329 Founder (Hackney) Branch[16] Chum L. F. Fossey 2658 Nottingham Branch[17] Chum G. J. Smith M.M. 3289 Leeds & District Branch Chum T. H. Godbold 3556 Woolwich & District Branch Chum C. Snelley 3670 Hastings & St Leonards Branch Chum C. S. French 3735 Eastbourne (General French) Branch Chum W. T. Baildham 3878 Founder (Hackney) Branch[18] Chum T. Bradley 3953 London Area Roll[19] Chum Farley 4143 West Ham Branch (Badge Lost) Chum E. G. White 4646 Folkestone & District Branch Chum A. Berridge 5497 Nottingham Branch[20] Chum G. J. Scrivens 5562 Walthamstow Branch[21] Chum A. E. Moulder 5725 City of Oxford Branch Chum A. E. Allen 5748 London S.W. No. 2 (Brixton) Branch Chum W. H. Coombes 5877 Bournemouth & District Branch Chum E. J. Harrington 6165 East Acton Branch Chum W. H. Stevens 6186 Founder (Hackney) Branch[22] Chum W. H. Clarke 6341 Barking Branch (Expelled June 1935) Chum G. Lee M.M. 6483 Branch Unknown (London Area) Chum W. W. Tovey 6752 Walthamstow Branch[23] Chum H. King M.M. 6799 Cheltenham Branch[24] Chum Beale 7926 Duchy of Cornwall Branch (Expelled June 1935) Unknown 8559 Southall-Norwood Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. W. Jones 8719 Liverpool Branch Chum M. W. A. P. Graham 8730 Nottingham Branch[25] Chum J. Garstang D.C.M. 9356 Preston & District Branch Chum T. H. Middleton 11252 Walthamstow Branch Chum A. H. Slack 11778 The Hague Branch Chum A. Newton 89A Nottingham Branch Chum H. Duckworth 168A Blackpool & District Branch (Expelled May 1935) Chum F. O’Connor 377A Nottingham Branch Chum E. Lupton 408A Blackpool & District Branch (Expelled April 1935) Chum A. Grant 409A Blackpool & District Branch (Resigned April 1935) Unknown 446A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 454A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. Parks 629A Nottingham Branch Unknown 689A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 973A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. W. Rains 1202A Nottingham Branch Unknown 1388A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Chum E. A. Brady 1927A Nottingham Branch Unknown 2016A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Chum W. Comery 3096A Leicester Branch Chum F. Bowles 3785A Nottingham Branch Chum R. F. Giles 3878A Gravesend & District Branch Chum J. Simpson 3098A Nottingham Branch Chum W. Wright 3920A Nottingham Branch Chum C. A. Riches 4284A Norwich Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. Robb 4534A Newcastle-upon-Tyne Branch Chum A. L. Hickman 4986A City of Oxford Branch Chum C. A. Riches 5286A Norwich Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum W. T. Spice 5429A Lewisham Branch (Expelled July 1936) Chum H. W. Tilbrook 5550A Braintree Branch (Expelled May 1936) Chum W. Atherton 5613A Portsmouth & District Branch Chum W. Crookes 5683A Ashton-under-Lyne Branch Chum W. Buckley 5709A Croydon Branch Chum C. E. C. Hingle I.S.M. 5747A Chelsea Branch Chum A. E. Douglas 5799A Walthamstow Branch[26] Chum J. Deed D.C.M. 5800A Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Childs 5801A Walthamstow Branch Chum G. Bryerley 5802A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum S. S. Mallinson 5803A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum H. Fulker 5804A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum J. Goodman 5804A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Reissued)[27] Chum J. W. Barton D.C.M. 5805A Walthamstow Branch Chum A. G. Jackson 5806A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. P. Dymond 5807A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum G. J. Worton 5808A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. A. Saul 5966A Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum W. Faircloth 6175A Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Worth 6176A Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Dodson 6177A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. T. Hannibal 6178A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Not Returned) Chum E. C. Webber 6179A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum G. S. Williams 6180A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum H. H. Davenport 6181A Walthamstow Branch Chum J. C. Dennis 6182A Walthamstow Branch Chum A. R. Watson 6183A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. B. Barrett 6184A Walthamstow Branch Chum F. W. Denny 6185A Walthamstow Branch Chum T. L. Sterry 6186A Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Laver 6187A Walthamstow Branch (Expelled 19 July 1933) Chum C. Seymour 6187A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Reissued)[28] Chum A. J. Course 6188A Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. Prior 6189A Walthamstow Branch Chum A. J. Harris 6190A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Not Returned) Chum F. E. Nicoll 6191A Walthamstow Branch Chum C. Richardson 6192A Walthamstow Branch Chum P. C. Brett 6193A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Hocking 6194A Walthamstow Branch Chum R. E. Burkett 6218A Gravesend & District Branch Chum F. W. Clarke 6703A Walthamstow Branch[29] Chum J. R. Loach 6704A Walthamstow Branch Chum B. Haynes 6706A Walthamstow Branch Chum R. Eyers 6707A Walthamstow Branch Chum V. Stiles 6708A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Harris 6709A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. F. Stiles 6710A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. C. Webber 6711A Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum W. H. Tucker 7268A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. E. Baldwin 7270A Walthamstow Branch[30] Chum F. E. Crisp 7273A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum A. Crisp 7274A Walthamstow Branch Chum P. W. Ellis 7275A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum S. A. Clark 7276A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum C. Cady 7277A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. W. Foster 7650A Wimbledon Branch Chum A. W. Sargeant 7908A Walthamstow Branch Chum F. C. Whiting 8885A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. A. Brown 8887A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. Hiles 8892A City of Oxford Branch Chum H. R. H. Bond 8893A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. Godfrey 8896A City of Oxford Branch Chum H. Ilott 8897A City of Oxford Branch Chum H. C. F. Bryan 8898A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. B. Baker 8900A City of Oxford Branch Chum T. Beesley 8901A City of Oxford Branch Chum S. A. Read 9019A Lewisham Branch (Expelled July 1935) Chum A. E. Tighe 9062A Leeds & District Branch[31] Chum C. E. Lock 9340A Nottingham Branch Chum A. Tagg 9501A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. W. Haynes 9506A City of Oxford Branch Chum V. C. D. Miles M.M. 9563A Victoria (Australia) Branch Chum R. Clarke 9855A Nottingham Branch Chum A. W. Woolley 9859A Nottingham Branch Chum I. Fry 9983A City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Lanham 29B Chelmsford Branch[32] Chum H. W. Tame 110B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. Boswell 380B City of Oxford Branch Chum F. W. Selcome 381B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. E. Bush 554B Walthamstow Branch Chum S. J. Frost 556B Walthamstow Branch Chum C. Edgar 557B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. G. Rushton 689B Walthamstow Branch[33] Chum C. Roke 697B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. S. Trollope 952B City of Oxford Branch Chum P. Buckingham 953B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. W. Nicholson 1066B Branch Unknown[34] Chum F. A. Blackwell 1543B City of Oxford Branch Chum C. B. Lapworth 1544B City of Oxford Branch Chum T. L. Tune 1701B Nottingham Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. Stewart 1853B Keighley Branch[35] Chum W. Dowsing 1928B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Burke 1929B City of Oxford Branch Chum A. Couldrey 1930B City of Oxford Branch Chum T. Brookbanks 2050B Nottingham Branch Chum E. Bell 2216B Nottingham Branch Chum C. H. Cooper 2265B Nottingham Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum W. H. Morris 2623B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Innocent 2664B Nottingham Branch (Badge Lost) Chum L. C. Warren 2981B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. E. Wallace 2982B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Britton 2983B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. W. Lenny 2984B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Draper 2985B Walthamstow Branch Chum L. F. Poultney 3119B Branch Unknown (London Area) Chum L. Millington 3803B Nottingham Branch Chum H. A. Silvester 3939B Finchley Branch (Badge Lost) Chum T. N. Smith 3998B Walthamstow Branch[36] Chum J. H. Bayless 4294B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. E. Mott 4296B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. H. Holmes 4297B City of Oxford Branch Chum F. P. Duke 4299B City of Oxford Branch Chum A. C. Piper 4758B Nottingham Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. Yeomans 4827B Keighley Branch Chum G. Byerley 5023B Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum F. E. Crisp 5024B Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum J. C. Young 5025B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. F. Sear 5026B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. H. Walker 5027B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. Greenwood 5028B Walthamstow Branch Chum F. W. Cowland 5029B Walthamstow Branch Chum L. E. Drury 5030B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Seear 5031B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. A. Willoughby 5032B Walthamstow Branch Chum F. J. Alcock 5244B City of Oxford Branch Chum C. J. S. Stephens 5246B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. W. Simmonds 5247B City of Oxford Branch Chum P. W. Howse 5248B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. Hazeltine 5371B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. W. Bunn 5372B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Brown D.C.M. 5373B Walthamstow Branch Chum P. W. Cox 5374B Walthamstow Branch Chum R. Wood 5375B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Lloyd 5376B Walthamstow Branch Chum F. Finton 5378B Walthamstow Branch Chum D. Eastwell D.C.M. 5735B Walthamstow Branch[37] Chum H. C. Aldridge 5377B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Cavill 5379B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Aston M.S.M. 5380B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum R. J. Large 6348B Chippenham Branch (Badge Lost)[38] Chum H. Saban 6456B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. G. Payne 6457B Walthamstow Branch Chum V. A. Williams 6458B Walthamstow Branch Chum D. O’B. West 6459B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Collins 6460B Walthamstow Branch Chum G. A. Wills D.C.M., M.M. 6461B Walthamstow Branch Chum R. J. Robertson 6462B Walthamstow Branch[39] Chum C. A. Borkett 6463B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. G. Mills 6464B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum J. E. Crouter 6465B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. J. Bailey 6466B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Cornell D.C.M. 6467B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. L. Harbach 6468B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum W. T. Probyn 6469B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Park 6470B Walthamstow Branch Chum B. E. Griffiths 6689B Nottingham Branch Chum J. G. Forrest 6690B Nottingham Branch Chum J. Innocent 6693B Nottingham Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum R. Jones 6740B City of Oxford Branch Chum C. Bond 6741B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Clarke 6742B City of Oxford Branch[40] Chum W. P. Hanks 6743B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. G. Gibbins 6744B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. P. Culhane 6783B Willesden & Cricklewood Branch Chum F. Astill 7314B Northampton Branch[41] Chum G. C. S. Piper 7550B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. B. Willbourn 7551B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Wootton 7553B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Smith 7554B Walthamstow Branch Chum C. R. Wright 7555B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Freestone 7558B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Blunden 7562B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. H. Leavey 7563B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Lodge 7564B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum A. H. Murray 7565B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Reed 7566B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. T. Thorpe 7567B Walthamstow Branch Chum G. Pursey D.C.M. 7568B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. E. Motley 7569B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Bingham 7570B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. C. Luxton 7571B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. R. Middleton 7572B Walthamstow Branch Chum T. Riddle 7573B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. J. Kay 7574B Walthamstow Branch[42] Chum E. B. Dunning 7575B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. C. Hall 7576B Walthamstow Branch Chum G. Stewart 7577B Walthamstow Branch Chum T. W. Pope 7578B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. C. Casey 7579B Walthamstow Branch Chum Coggins 8003B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. Buckingham 8806B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. J. Edmunds 8807B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. G. Burnett 8812B Keighley Branch Chum R. W. M. Emery 8815B Keighley Branch Chum F. Sugden 8816B Keighley Branch Chum A. V. Liddimore 8817B Keighley Branch Chum S. Metcalfe 8820B Keighley Branch Chum C. Carroll 8821B Keighley Branch Chum W. T. Pye 8822B Keighley Branch Chum W. Grange 8823B Keighley Branch Chum T. Duckett 8824B Keighley Branch Chum J. T. Tinkler 8825B Keighley Branch Chum T. Henry 8826B Keighley Branch Chum H. Hardisty M.M. 8827B Keighley Branch Chum G. Kershaw M.M. 8828B Keighley Branch Chum W. Pryke 8829B Keighley Branch Chum T. H. Hayes 8830B Keighley Branch Chum W. Cox 8831B Keighley Branch Chum S. C. Blair 9084B Nottingham Branch Chum S. Constable M.M. 9233B South Staffordshire Branch Chum E. Foy 9467B Keighley Branch Chum C. Silverwood 9468B Keighley Branch Chum G. H. Bugler 9469B Keighley Branch Chum J. Martin 9470B Keighley Branch Chum H. Hainsworth 9471B Keighley Branch Chum J. R. Langstaff 9472B Keighley Branch Chum C. Catterson 9473B Keighley Branch Chum C. B. Baker 9475B Keighley Branch Chum G. Langstaffe 9476B Keighley Branch Chum T. Jowett 9873B Keighley Branch Chum F. Gower 9874B Keighley Branch Chum M. A. Gardner 9877B Keighley Branch Chum P. Moore 9878B Keighley Branch Chum W. Walworth 9880B Keighley Branch Chum J. W. Davis 9896B Keighley Branch Chum F. Stephenson 285C Keighley Branch Chum A. P. Wilson 286C Keighley Branch Chum A. Nixon 287C Keighley Branch Chum J. Winkley 288C Keighley Branch Chum W. Dixon 289C Keighley Branch Chum I. Moorhouse 291C Keighley Branch Chum J. W. Daynes 292C Keighley Branch Chum W. Longman 293C Keighley Branch Chum C. Goff 294C Keighley Branch Chum J. Whitehall 619C Keighley Branch Chum J. G. Freeman 777C Nottingham Branch Chum J. J. Hetherington 987C Nottingham Branch Chum H. Driver 1567C Keighley Branch Chum H. Boyes 1570C Keighley Branch Chum J. E. Geldard 1573C Keighley Branch Chum W. Whitaker 1574C Keighley Branch Chum W. Normington 1575C Keighley Branch Chum M. Derrick 1576C Keighley Branch Chum J. Chalmers 1909C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. W. Budd 1910C Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Robinson 1913C Walthamstow Branch Chum L. W. Wilmott 1915C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Hydon 1916C Walthamstow Branch Chum H. A. Gale 1917C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. H. Springate 1918C Walthamstow Branch Chum F. S. Yates 2339C Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Ideson 2526C Keighley Branch Chum O. Ellis 2528C Keighley Branch Chum G. Whittemore 2529C Keighley Branch Chum W. Templeton 2530C Keighley Branch Chum J. Thomas 2532C Keighley Branch Chum A. Smith 2534C Keighley Branch Chum A. C. Piper 3075C Nottingham Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. Willis 3080C Nottingham Branch Chum L. J. Parsons 3342C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. S. Smith 3343C Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Winchcombe 4574C Swindon Branch Chum J. P. Warner 9344C Nottingham Branch Chum R. Pearson 368D Darlington Branch Chum C. Cawston 644D Keighley Branch Chum B. Hum 645D Keighley Branch Chum J. Green 646D Keighley Branch Chum J. Birdsall 647D Keighley Branch Unknown 903D South Australia Branch (Lost) Chum W. N. Morris 1807D Reading Branch[43] Chum W. L. Harbach 2024D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum E. Harrington 2025D Walthamstow Branch Chum L. C. F. Bull 2026D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. H. G. Clark 2027D Walthamstow Branch Chum H. G. Mason 2028D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. H. Walker 2029D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum G. Murray 2031D Walthamstow Branch Chum F. S. Townsend 2032D Walthamstow Branch Chum F. J. Byerley 2033D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Preece 2035D Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum C. Timby 2036D Walthamstow Branch Chum S. A. Clark 2037D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum C. Keary 2038D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Mayhew 2041D Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Murton 2045D Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Chatten 2049D Keighley Branch Chum A. H. Chittenden 2787D Dover Branch Chum T. Bradley 3405D Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Walker 3406D Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost)[44] Chum E. Price 3461D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Law 3462D Walthamstow Branch Chum S. F. Coles M.M. 3463D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. G. Dallison 3464D Walthamstow Branch Chum H. T. Stephens 3465D Walthamstow Branch Chum A. T. Hennah 3466D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. A. Hurst 3467D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. J. Jones 3582D Stockport Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum T. A. Goff 3754D Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Lodge 3755D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum G. J. Worton 3756D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. J. Brown 3758D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Worth 3760D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum C. L. Young 3763D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. H. Guile 4055D Worthing Branch Chum D. W. Gammage 4856D Ipswich & District Branch Chum W. A. Billimore 5018D London S.W. No. 2 (Brixton) Branch[45] Chum H. F. Kearsey 5552D Nottingham Branch (Replacement Badge)[46] Chum A. Blake 6274D Reading Branch Chum A. Murden 6306D Nottingham Branch Chum J. W. Gallimore 6307D Nottingham Branch Chum J. Finan 6572D Keighley Branch[47] Chum F. W. Butler 7087D Hounslow Branch Chum R. S. Cosburn 7124D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Preece 7125D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum R. E. Worrall 7128D Walthamstow Branch Chum P. L. Beatty 8573D Bishops Stortford Branch Chum A. E. Walker 9733D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge)[48] Chum C. H. Knowles 305E Walthamstow Branch Chum H. S. Docksey 347E City of New Sarum (Salisbury) Branch[49] Chum J. R. C. Feaver 460E Walthamstow Branch[50] Chum C. W. F. Francis 2580E Uxbridge Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum A. E. Joyce 3102E Lewisham Branch Chum H. E. Camp 3122E Dagenham Branch Chum C. Jeffreys 3219E Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Warner 3655E Walthamstow Branch Chum J. W. Palmer D.C.M. 3696E Walthamstow Branch Chum A. H. Trolley 3730E Walthamstow Branch Chum S. S. Mallinson 4019E Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. C. De Fraine 4020E Walthamstow Branch Chum F. March 4021E Walthamstow Branch Chum G. J. De Vere 4022E Walthamstow Branch [1] First Vice-Chairman of The Old Contemptibles’ Association, elected on 28 June 1925. [2] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [3] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [4] Chum Field Marshal Sir George Francis Milne, President of The Old Contemptibles’ Association. [5] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [6] Founder of the West Hartlepool Branch in 1928. [7] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [8] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [9] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch, [10] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [11] Later transferred to London S.W. No. 1 (Wandsworth) Branch. [12] Later transferred to Southend-on-Sea Branch. [13] Later transferred to Woolwich & District Branch. [14] Later joined Walthamstow Branch and transferred to West Ham Branch. [15] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [16] Founder member of the Walthamstow Branch. [17] Rejoined Nottingham Branch 15 July 1969. No letter suffix recorded on the Branch Nominal Roll. [18] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch and Clacton-on-Sea Branch. [19] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [20] Rejoined Nottingham Branch June 1964. No letter suffix recorded on the Branch Nominal Roll. [21] Founder member of the Walthamstow Branch, the original Branch that Chum Scrivens was a member of is not known. [22] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [23] Chum Tovey joined the Walthamstow Branch on 9 March 1938. His previous Branch is not known. [24] Chum King joined the Cheltenham Branch on its formation in 1947, but had previously lived in London. [25] Joined Nottingham Branch 18 August 1964. No letter suffix recorded on the Branch Nominal Roll. [26] Later transferred to Glasgow Branch. [27] Chum Goodman joined the Walthamstow Branch on 15 February 1936 and, based on the information recorded on the Branch Nominal Roll, he was issued with the Badge that had belonged to Chum Fulker. [28] Chum Seymour joined the Walthamstow Branch later in 1933 and was given the badge originally issued to Chum Laver. [29] Struck of Walthamstow Branch Roll – Badge not returned. [30] Later transferred to Edmonton Branch. [31] Transferred to Keighley Branch on 1 February 1938. [32] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [33] Later transferred to Cambridge Branch. [34] Badge sold with 1914 Star and Clasp Group by Dix, Noonan and Webb on 16 April 2020. [35] Joined the Keighley Branch on 8 September 1944. His previous Branch is not recorded on his Application Form. [36] Joined the Walthamstow Branch on 17 June 1945, his previous Branch is not recorded on the Nominal Roll. [37] Later transferred to Southend-on-Sea Branch. [38] Chum Large’s Badge was found in the garden of his former home. [39] Later transferred to London S.W. No.1 (Wandsworth) Branch. [40] Later transferred to Barnstaple Branch. [41] Later transferred to Bournemouth Branch. [42] Later transferred to Guildford Branch. [43] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [44] Transferred to the Walthamstow Branch on 28 January 1946. [45] Transferred to Nottingham Branch in 1967. [46] Transferred from Camden Town Branch on 26 September 1943. [47] No letter suffix recorded on Branch Application Form. Chum Finan joined the Keighley Branch in June 1945. [48] The Badge number recorded on the Walthamstow Branch Nominal Roll has no letter suffix. [49] Transferred to Nottingham Branch on 1 November 1964. [50] Later transferred to Founder (Hackney) Branch. Edited 9 January , 2022 by AndrewThornton
JohnE Posted 16 September , 2022 Posted 16 September , 2022 Hi everyone. I have just joined this group because I have an Old Contemptible Assn lapel badge in my possesion and I would like to return it to the family of its original owners family if that is possible. I have found the badge amongst a number of items that belonged to my father who fought in WW2 as a co-pilot flight engineer in a number of different aircraft including B24's and Wellingtons. The badge was not his because he didnt fight in WW1. The badge has the number 2037 engraved on the back and it also has the Reg No 726347 engraved on the lapel clasp part. there is I believe a manufacturers name engraved on the rear but I cant identify what it says other than the location London. If anyone can help then that would be appreciated
AndrewThornton Posted 16 September , 2022 Posted 16 September , 2022 Hello JohnE. It's a lovely idea about trying to trace the family of the Chum to whom the badge was issued, but unfortunately the records no longer exist to make this possible. As explained previously in this thread, the badges were issued in batches from Association Headquarters to individual Branches, which then issued them to a Chum once they had been accepted into the Association. Any record of the recipient of a badge would have been retained by a Branch, the Headquarters of the Association only knowing where the badge was sent to. The badge that you have probably has a letter stamped after the number, from which can be determined when it would have been issued. Of the over 50,000 badges issued during the lifetime of The Old Contemptibles' Association, the information currently available on Chums known to have been given a specific badge represents just under 1% of the total.
JohnE Posted 16 September , 2022 Posted 16 September , 2022 Hi Andrew. Many thanks for your very quick reply. There isnt a letter following the number so on all counts it looks as though I cant go any further Which is a real shame. I have done lots of research on my fathers time in the RAF and been able to get photos of his aircraft in which he did most of the missions in his log book and I really enjoyed pulling things together but on this occasion I guess that this little badge will remain unidentified as to its owner. Thank you again for helping me.
AndrewThornton Posted 16 September , 2022 Posted 16 September , 2022 As a matter of interest, JohnE, is it possible that you can post a photograph of the badge that you have please? The reason for this that there were two versions of the badge that were issued, and if the one that you have does not have a letter suffix after the number them it should be of the first version, which I will be able to confirm from the photograph.
JohnE Posted 16 September , 2022 Posted 16 September , 2022 Yes I can do that but it will be Sunday sometime.
JohnE Posted 18 September , 2022 Posted 18 September , 2022 Here are some photos of the badge which I have
AndrewThornton Posted 18 September , 2022 Posted 18 September , 2022 Thank you JohnE. That is the first pattern of badge and would have been issued to a Chum during 1927, so it is a fairly early example.
JohnE Posted 18 September , 2022 Posted 18 September , 2022 Thank you Andrew. I will hang onto it and keep it with some other items that came to me when my dad passed away
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 18 September , 2022 Posted 18 September , 2022 (edited) On 13/10/2021 at 14:09, AndrewThornton said: Do you happen to know the date of the clipping and which newspaper it came from, Dave? 1961-62, that being the period when George Offord was Mayor of Woolwich. https://london.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Mayors_of_Woolwich Edited 18 September , 2022 by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
David Ellis Posted 9 March , 2023 Posted 9 March , 2023 for the attention of @AndrewThornton (apologies Andrew, the following is a ‘cut and paste’ from an email I attempt to send you. Therefore it may read a little??) I would like to furnish him with the details of my wife's late Grandfather for his records. Fusilier John Henry Gilbert, Army No 3122854, served with the 1st Battalion Royal Scots Fusiliers. Sailed from Southampton 13th August 1914, fought at Mons at Jemappes Bridge on the Mons Conde Canal on the 23rd August. 20th October 1914, received severe gunshot wound - right shoulder and medically evacuated back to England. Continued to serve on the Western Front with his service record showing a further shrapnel wound, 1916, and Gassed in 1918. Survived the war and served with the colours until 1931 completing 22 years. He settled in Gosport, Hampshire, where he was a member of the Gosport and Fareham Branch of the Association. Member N0 1049A. I am aware that they used to hold their monthly(?) branch meetings in two 'old' pubs in Gosport, The Wheatsheaf and the Trafalgar. He was married to Olive and had 8 children. He passed away on Christmas day 1954. I (we) hope this information is of interest to Mr Thornton. We would ask, in return, if there is any information that he holds on the Gosport Branch, we would very much be interested in reading it please. Thanking you in anticipation of your assistance. yours sincerely David & Patricia Ellis
AndrewThornton Posted 9 March , 2023 Posted 9 March , 2023 Hello David Thank you for your message and the reference to the Old Contemptibles' Association Badge. The number indicates that the badge was issued during 1931. At this time the Gosport and Fareham Branch did not exist, so, based on the information that you have provided, it would appear that Chum Gilbert was a member of the Portsmouth and District Branch before transferring to the Gosport and Fareham Branch on its formation in 1951. I will have a look if I have any reference to Chum Gilbert, but in the meantime there are some details of the activities of both the Portsmouth and Gosport & Fareham Branches posted on my blog, which may be of interest: https://oldcontemptiblesassociationscrapbook.wordpress.com/blog/
David Ellis Posted 9 March , 2023 Posted 9 March , 2023 Hello Andrew thank you for the prompt and interesting reply to our enquiry, and we have read the link(s) you provided. It was good to see the Wheatsheaf pub get a mention in one of the reports. A couple of further question if I may: Gosport branch started in 1951, do you know what month please? Also, date and month of it’s closure? Do you know the venue of the Portsmouth branch? with this information, I’ll research the local press for any report(s). Also, what is the significance of the letter D following his membership number? Was you aware that both the Gosport and Portsmouth Branches Standards are hanging, and open to the public, in the Old Garrison Church on Southsea Common, Portsmouth. Check for opening times. Thank you for all your work in collating information appertaining to the ‘chums’, it certainly adds to our own relatives story. keep up the good work!
David Ellis Posted 9 March , 2023 Posted 9 March , 2023 We are sending the attached photo, credit the original photographer, which appears in a local (Gosport) history group publication. The centre picture, behind the marching ATC is a contingent, I believe, of Old Contemptibles (?) whilst you can only see half of the standard they are carrying, I’m sure it’s the OC’s. Which, from the earlier information, would make it the Portsmouth Branch, albeit most of those marching would, presumably, be residents of Gosport (?). I’ve been in touch with the local history group, but drawn a blank. Perhaps, the local press again. regards Dave
AndrewThornton Posted 9 March , 2023 Posted 9 March , 2023 Hello again David. The Gosport and Fareham Branch officially formed in September 1951 and the Branch Officers were elected the same month. The Branch closed in 1970 and the remaining members joined the Portsmouth Branch, some rejoining after transferring in 1951. There are hundreds of reports relating to the Portsmouth and District Branch (and from 1951) the Gosport and Fareham Branch available via the online British Newspaper Archive up until the late 1950s, but I have made available on my Old Contemptibles page on Facebook 100 issues (out of the 503 published between 1930 and 1975) of the Association's journal 'The Old Contemptible'. The copies of 'The Old Contemptible' also include reports from both Branches. I can't remember the number offhand, but one of the 'Old Contemptible' issues that can be viewed on my Facebook page includes a report from the Portsmouth Branch that refers to the closure of the Gosport and Fareham Branch. Chums of The Old Contemptibles' Association did not have membership numbers. The 'D' that you refer to I assume appears on a badge or membership card. The D suffix was used on badges issued between 1939 and 1950. I was aware of the location of where the Portsmouth and the Gosport and Fareham Branch Standards are laid up. A flag from the Cenotaph, which was given to the Portsmouth Branch by the Imperial War Museum, was also laid up in the Old Garrison Church.
AndrewThornton Posted 9 March , 2023 Posted 9 March , 2023 From 'The Old Contemptible' No. 436, May 1970 (from my own personal collection). The closure of the Gosport and Fareham Branch was noted in the same issue but no date of closure was given.
AndrewThornton Posted 10 March , 2023 Posted 10 March , 2023 For many years, from its formation in 1927 to at least the late 1950s, I know that the Portsmouth and District Branch held their meetings at the Garrison Church Rooms on Pembroke Road.
David Ellis Posted 10 March , 2023 Posted 10 March , 2023 Thank you Andrew you certainly have given us a lot to get our teeth into. This has been an ongoing project for us to flesh out Pat’s Grandfather’s army service, which saw him joining up with the RSF, although he hails from London! Through service in S Africa, returning to St George’s Barracks in Gosport in March ‘14, only to go to France/Belgium 5 months later. He was mentioned in dispatches at Belewaarde Ridge in 1915, won a MM in 1916 (still trying to establish for what action). Went awol for a few days when he got married! I mentioned he was gassed in ‘18. After the war, he stayed with the Btn at various UK Garrisons. Glasgow, Bordon, Portsmouth, Ayr. Despite being from London, as was his wife, they settled in Gosport on his discharge. We’ve been upto the Regimental Museum in Glasgow, and obtained some great pictures of the Regt detraining at Gosport on their return from S Africa, as well as Btn formed up on the parade ground, in Gosport, prior to their departure for Europe in ‘14. Also, copies of the Btn war diary for ‘14 from the PRO. Apologies for’going on’ but wanted to share this information with a like minded person such as yourself. Thank you again for your generous help and assistance. Dave & Pat
AndrewThornton Posted 10 March , 2023 Posted 10 March , 2023 Not a problem Dave. I also happen to have a small collection of postcard photographs of soldiers of the 1st Battalion, The Royal Scots Fusiliers in South Africa that belonged to Bandsman McDivitt (from Walsall). Some of them I posted on this forum many years ago.
David Ellis Posted 10 March , 2023 Posted 10 March , 2023 11 hours ago, AndrewThornton said: Not a problem Dave. I also happen to have a small collection of postcard photographs of soldiers of the 1st Battalion, The Royal Scots Fusiliers in South Africa that belonged to Bandsman McDivitt (from Walsall). Some of them I posted on this forum many years ago. Next time you come across them Andrew, we would love to see them please. in return, have you seen the photo of the Btn formed up, complete with horse drawn cooks wagons, prior to their move to France in ‘14?
AndrewThornton Posted 11 March , 2023 Posted 11 March , 2023 I haven't seen that particular photograph that you mentioned, Dave. Here are some of those that belonged to Bandsman McDivitt.
David Ellis Posted 11 March , 2023 Posted 11 March , 2023 Great pics Andrew, we look forward to running the magnifier over these. the last pic, 1914, was taken inside St George Barracks, Gosport. A mile away from where we live! photos to follow. Thank you for sending these over to add to the story. Btn formed up prior to move to France. plus, Camp Guard, S Africa 1913.
David Ellis Posted 11 March , 2023 Posted 11 March , 2023 Btn on their return from S Africa. marching from Gosport Railway Station to St George Barracks. note: we were lucky enough to look round the Barracks after sold by MOD and prior to redevelopment, some years ago now.
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