Raxawa Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 I haven't found any more records, or parts thereof, since my last group of posts (#41 to #59) but I have done a lot of reading. I'm still trying to figure out what unit(s) my grandfather might have been attached to. I have been reading the War Diary of the 4th Division, and have been going cross-eyed trying to discern the faded print, and cursive short forms looking for 2nd Coy movements. Names are not given, making the job tougher, but I was hoping for some dispatches, etc. of wounded men and where they were treated. Without his service record, and working from the bits and pieces I already have been provided, is there any more information on the 2nd Coy, 4th Divisional train? I'm just looking for anything!!! Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 10 hours ago, Raxawa said: I'm still trying to figure out what unit(s) my grandfather might have been attached to. From the MIC we have already established that he was in No 2 Company in 4th Divisional Train. If you have been reading the diary flagged up earlier then you will have seen innumerable mentions of No 2 Company (the companies retained their numbers as far as the diary is concerned right through the war.). You should, in the absence of other evidence, have to assume Grandfather was wherever they are mentioned. The war diary is the record of a unit's operational service and, as you have seen, only rarely mention individual soldiers by name. There is, at that level, nothing else you can read that will give you what you want unfortunately unless by some miracle someone comes up with a personal diary of someone in the train. The fragment that mentions his wound must have been in the winter of 1914. Frost bite is mentioned in some and one man, Coney, was discharged in April 1915 which rather points to the previous winter. Your experience is typical if that helps. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxawa Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 Thank you Max. Yes I understand that he was in 2 Coy, 4th Div. Train from the MIC but was hoping to find other information about possible other units he may have been in following his release from his thigh injury. Family memory knows (or strongly thinks) that he was also injured from gas in April 1915, and also had a shrapnel injury to his face (nose) in 1918, and then discharged from service in 1918. Given the lack of his service record, no doubt due to the damage caused during the Blitz, I guess we will never know many details about his service. I will continue to peruse the 4 Div. diary, eyesight permitting!! Although there are many gaps, I have learned a lot from my research and the WarForum's help. And it all started out from wondering if he was an Old Contemptible, which we now know that he was!!! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Driscoll Posted 6 August , 2020 Share Posted 6 August , 2020 My granddad, staff sergeant farrier, RHA, Albert Driscoll, badge no. 937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 6 August , 2020 Share Posted 6 August , 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, S.Driscoll said: My granddad, staff sergeant farrier, RHA, Albert Driscoll, badge no. 937 Is there a query about him? Realised you are adding his name to the listings. Max Edited 6 August , 2020 by MaxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Driscoll Posted 6 August , 2020 Share Posted 6 August , 2020 I am also, permanently, on the look out for photos, letters or other ephemera about him. He went over in early August '14 through to Oct '19. So there must be something out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Saul Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 My grandfather, Sgt James Arthur Saul 10100 2/Essex Regiment. Old Contemptibles Badge No 5966A Lived post war in Hackney/Walthamstow area but not sure which branch he belonged to. Photo taken at a reunion I think. I know he was twice wounded, first in 1914 and then I think in 1917. He moved from the Essex Regiment to the Northamptonshire Regiment and also served for a time in the Labour Corps. Don’t know why, can anyone shed light on why this happened? I know he went with his Regiment to France in August 1914 plus served in Palestine/Syria later in the war. I’d love to know more! His 1914 Star has him as a L/Cpl his other two medals as a Sgt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Medal roll has the sequence of regiments that you quote. No sign of his service record which would track him from one to another. His Silver War Badge record says enlistment 13 Nov 1912 and discharge from Essex Regiment 20 Dec 1919. His Labour Corps number was allocated in Egypt in May/September 1918 (source No Labour No Battle). The source notes that there is precious little information on Labour Corps units in Egypt . It does refer to three companies formed in the August/September 1918 period which moved into Palestine and Syria with XX Corps, XXI Corps and the Desert Mounted Corps which may have been when he transferred from a battalion of the Northamptons who were in that theatre. Perhaps voluntarily as a Sergeant?? The earlier transfer from 2 Essex may well have coincided with one of his woundings (guesswork here!).. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Hello John. I currently have the original records for the Walthamstow Branch in my care (I have been lent them for my research) and Chum Saul is not recorded in the Branch Nominal Roll. However, he may well have been a Chum of the Founder (Hackney) Branch, and perhaps if you posted the whole Branch photograph that you have I might be able to confirm this if I can recognise some of the other Chums in the group. I can tell you however that his Badge Number indicates that he joined the Association in late 1932. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Saul Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 2 hours ago, MaxD said: Medal roll has the sequence of regiments that you quote. No sign of his service record which would track him from one to another. His Silver War Badge record says enlistment 13 Nov 1912 and discharge from Essex Regiment 20 Dec 1919. His Labour Corps number was allocated in Egypt in May/September 1918 (source No Labour No Battle). The source notes that there is precious little information on Labour Corps units in Egypt . It does refer to three companies formed in the August/September 1918 period which moved into Palestine and Syria with XX Corps, XXI Corps and the Desert Mounted Corps which may have been when he transferred from a battalion of the Northamptons who were in that theatre. Perhaps voluntarily as a Sergeant?? The earlier transfer from 2 Essex may well have coincided with one of his woundings (guesswork here!).. Max Hi Max That’s been very helpful and such a quick response. Thank you very much. I’ve been very frustrated trying to track grandad’s army career. I’ve got his medals, wound badge, cap badge etc but nothing else. I assume the image was taken in Palestine - he is front left. Can’t make out the cap badge. My other grandad was in the Welsh Guards and his records have survived. Thank again, the help is much appreciated. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Saul Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Hi Andrew, Thanks very much for your helpful reply. I’ve attached the whole photograph and would be interested if you recognise the location and any of the other people. I wonder why he left it to 1932 to join. The photo shows him as he was in the 1930s (from the evidence of other I’ve got) so that makes sense. Sorry about the quality of the photo - copy of a copy I’m afraid. Thanks again, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Cap badge resembles the Northamptons, certainly not Essex or Labour Corps. If I've counted correctly, 2 battalions of the Northamptons were in the Egypt theatre in 1918, 1/4th after Gallipoli and 1st Garrison Battalion from Oct 1915. The other seated man has the look of a garrison battalion man (totally unscientific thought!). Doesn't get us far though in terms of time frames for each. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Definitely the Founder (Hackney) Branch, John. The Banner in the background was presented by Lady Amherst but sadly no longer survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 You might also recognise this Chum, Chum Sid Godley V.C., a member of the Founder (Hackney) Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Saul Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Andrew/Max Thank you so much. You’ve both been of great help to my ongoing research John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 25 January , 2021 Share Posted 25 January , 2021 Here is a list of Badge numbers that have been confirmed to Chums that I have compiled so far. There is a possibility of finding more Badge numbers but this would involve visiting individual archives that hold surviving Branch records to see what is available - the key being that Badges were issued to Branches in batches by the General Secretary of the National Executive Council of The Old Contemptibles' Association and it was the Branch Secretaries who were responsible for their distribution. This means that, unless you happen to be lucky enough to have a record of badges issued to Chums from a particular Branch, it is not possible to be able to identify a recipient of a particular badge. Chum Davis 3 Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum J. Clark 7 Founder (Hackney) Branch[1] Chum R. J. Blake 20 Founder (Hackney) Branch[2] Chum G. F. Milne 27 Founder (Hackney) Branch[3] Chum W. Murray 75 Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum D. H. Brewer 138 Founder (Hackney) Branch[4] Chum C. Portway 166 Founder (Hackney) Branch[5] Chum J. Morris 350 Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum J. Bovill 396 Founder (Hackney) Branch[6] Chum A. E. Kent 417 Founder (Hackney) Branch[7] Chum A. J. Course 432 Founder (Hackney) Branch (Badge Lost)[8] Chum F. Murray 551 Founder (Hackney) Branch[9] Chum E. J. Brown 557 Founder (Hackney) Branch[10] Chum A. W. Austin M.C., M.M. 597 Founder (Hackney) Branch[11] Chum E. A. Hadaway 846 Founder (Hackney) Branch[12] Chum G. Barrett 1029 Founder (Hackney) Branch[13] Chum D. J. Sweeney 1373 Founder (Hackney) Branch[14] Chum J. H. Binley 1783 Woolwich & District Branch Chum H. J. W. Monk 2329 Founder (Hackney) Branch[15] Chum G. J. Smith M.M. 3289 Leeds & District Branch Chum C. Snelley 3670 Hastings & St Leonards Branch Chum C. S. French 3735 Eastbourne (General French) Branch Chum W. T. Baildham 3878 Founder (Hackney) Branch[16] Chum T. Bradley 3953 London Area Roll[17] Chum E. G. White 4646 Folkestone & District Branch Chum G. J. Scrivens 5562 Walthamstow Branch[18] Chum A. E. Moulder 5725 City of Oxford Branch Chum A. E. Allen 5748 London S.W. No. 2 (Brixton) Branch Chum W. H. Coombes 5877 Bournemouth & District Branch Chum E. J. Harrington 6165 East Acton Branch Chum W. H. Stevens 6186 Founder (Hackney) Branch[19] Chum W. H. Clarke 6341 Barking Branch (Expelled June 1935) Chum G. Lee M.M. 6483 Branch Unknown (London Area) Chum W. W. Tovey 6752 Walthamstow Branch[20] Chum H. King M.M. 6799 Cheltenham Branch[21] Chum Beale 7926 Duchy of Cornwall Branch (Expelled June 1935) Unknown 8559 Southall-Norwood Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. W. Jones 8719 Liverpool Branch Chum A. E. Walker 9733 Dorking Branch[22] Chum T. H. Middleton 11252 Walthamstow Branch Chum A. H. Slack 11778 The Hague Branch Chum H. Duckworth 168A Blackpool & District Branch (Expelled May 1935) Chum E. Lupton 408A Blackpool & District Branch (Expelled April 1935) Chum A. Grant 409A Blackpool & District Branch (Resigned April 1935) Unknown 446A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 454A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 689A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 973A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 1388A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Unknown 2016A Derby Branch (Badge Lost) Chum W. Comery 3096A Leicester Branch Chum R. F. Giles 3878A Gravesend & District Branch Chum J. Robb 4534A Newcastle-upon-Tyne Branch Chum A. L. Hickman 4986A City of Oxford Branch Chum W. T. Spice 5429A Lewisham Branch (Expelled July 1936) Chum H. W. Tilbrook 5550A Braintree Branch (Expelled May 1936) Chum W. Atherton 5613A Portsmouth & District Branch Chum W. Crookes 5683A Ashton-under-Lyne Branch Chum W. Buckley 5709A Croydon Branch Chum C. E. C. Hingle I.S.M. 5747A Chelsea Branch Chum A. E. Douglas 5799A Walthamstow Branch[23] Chum J. Deed D.C.M. 5800A Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Childs 5801A Walthamstow Branch Chum G. Bryerley 5802A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum S. S. Mallinson 5803A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum H. Fulker 5804A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum J. Goodman 5804A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Reissued)[24] Chum J. W. Barton D.C.M. 5805A Walthamstow Branch Chum A. G. Jackson 5806A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. P. Dymond 5807A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum G. J. Worton 5808A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. A. Saul 5966A Founder (Hackney) Branch Chum W. Faircloth 6175A Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Worth 6176A Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Dodson 6177A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. T. Hannibal 6178A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Not Returned) Chum E. C. Webber 6179A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum G. S. Williams 6180A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum H. H. Davenport 6181A Walthamstow Branch Chum J. C. Dennis 6182A Walthamstow Branch Chum A. R. Watson 6183A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. B. Barrett 6184A Walthamstow Branch Chum F. W. Denny 6185A Walthamstow Branch Chum T. L. Sterry 6186A Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Laver 6187A Walthamstow Branch (Expelled 19 July 1933) Chum C. Seymour 6187A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Reissued)[25] Chum A. J. Course 6188A Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. Prior 6189A Walthamstow Branch Chum A. J. Harris 6190A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Not Returned) Chum F. E. Nicoll 6191A Walthamstow Branch Chum C. Richardson 6192A Walthamstow Branch Chum P. C. Brett 6193A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Hocking 6194A Walthamstow Branch Chum R. E. Burkett 6218A Gravesend & District Branch Chum F. W. Clarke 6703A Walthamstow Branch[26] Chum J. R. Loach 6704A Walthamstow Branch Chum B. Haynes 6706A Walthamstow Branch Chum R. Eyers 6707A Walthamstow Branch Chum V. Stiles 6708A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Harris 6709A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. F. Stiles 6710A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. C. Webber 6711A Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum W. H. Tucker 7268A Walthamstow Branch Chum H. E. Baldwin 7270A Walthamstow Branch[27] Chum F. E. Crisp 7273A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum A. Crisp 7274A Walthamstow Branch Chum P. W. Ellis 7275A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum S. A. Clark 7276A Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum C. Cady 7277A Walthamstow Branch Chum E. W. Foster 7650A Wimbledon Branch Chum A. W. Sargeant 7908A Walthamstow Branch Chum F. C. Whiting 8885A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. A. Brown 8887A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. Hiles 8892A City of Oxford Branch Chum H. R. H. Bond 8893A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. Godfrey 8896A City of Oxford Branch Chum H. Ilott 8897A City of Oxford Branch Chum H. C. F. Bryan 8898A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. B. Baker 8900A City of Oxford Branch Chum T. Beesley 8901A City of Oxford Branch Chum S. A. Read 9019A Lewisham Branch (Expelled July 1935) Chum A. E. Tighe 9062A Leeds & District Branch[28] Chum A. Tagg 9501A City of Oxford Branch Chum F. W. Haynes 9506A City of Oxford Branch Chum V. C. D. Miles M.M. 9563A Victoria (Australia) Branch Chum I. Fry 9983A City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Lanham 29B Chelmsford Branch[29] Chum H. W. Tame 110B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. Boswell 380B City of Oxford Branch Chum F. W. Selcome 381B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. E. Bush 554B Walthamstow Branch Chum S. J. Frost 556B Walthamstow Branch Chum C. Edgar 557B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. G. Rushton 689B Walthamstow Branch[30] Chum C. Roke 697B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. S. Trollope 952B City of Oxford Branch Chum P. Buckingham 953B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. W. Nicholson 1066B Branch Unknown[31] Chum F. A. Blackwell 1543B City of Oxford Branch Chum C. B. Lapworth 1544B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. Stewart 1853B Keighley Branch[32] Chum W. Dowsing 1928B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Burke 1929B City of Oxford Branch Chum A. Couldrey 1930B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. H. Morris 2623B City of Oxford Branch Chum L. C. Warren 2981B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. E. Wallace 2982B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Britton 2983B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. W. Lenny 2984B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Draper 2985B Walthamstow Branch Chum L. F. Poultney 3119B Branch Unknown (London Area) Chum H. A. Silvester 3939B Finchley Branch (Badge Lost) Chum T. N. Smith 3998B Walthamstow Branch[33] Chum J. H. Bayless 4294B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. E. Mott 4296B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. H. Holmes 4297B City of Oxford Branch Chum F. P. Duke 4299B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Yeomans 4827B Keighley Branch Chum G. Byerley 5023B Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum F. E. Crisp 5024B Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum J. C. Young 5025B Walthamstow Branch Chum E. F. Sear 5026B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. H. Walker 5027B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum J. Greenwood 5028B Walthamstow Branch Chum F. W. Cowland 5029B Walthamstow Branch Chum L. E. Drury 5030B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Seear 5031B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. A. Willoughby 5032B Walthamstow Branch Chum F. J. Alcock 5244B City of Oxford Branch Chum C. J. S. Stephens 5246B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. W. Simmonds 5247B City of Oxford Branch Chum P. W. Howse 5248B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. Hazeltine 5371B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. W. Bunn 5372B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Brown D.C.M. 5373B Walthamstow Branch Chum P. W. Cox 5374B Walthamstow Branch Chum R. Wood 5375B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Lloyd 5376B Walthamstow Branch Chum F. Finton 5378B Walthamstow Branch Chum D. Eastwell D.C.M. 5735B Walthamstow Branch[34] Chum H. C. Aldridge 5377B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Cavill 5379B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Aston M.S.M. 5380B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum H. Saban 6456B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. G. Payne 6457B Walthamstow Branch Chum V. A. Williams 6458B Walthamstow Branch Chum D. O’B. West 6459B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Collins 6460B Walthamstow Branch Chum G. A. Wills D.C.M., M.M. 6461B Walthamstow Branch Chum R. J. Robertson 6462B Walthamstow Branch[35] Chum C. A. Borkett 6463B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. G. Mills 6464B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Returned) Chum J. E. Crouter 6465B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. J. Bailey 6466B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Cornell D.C.M. 6467B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. L. Harbach 6468B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum W. T. Probyn 6469B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Park 6470B Walthamstow Branch Chum R. Jones 6740B City of Oxford Branch Chum C. Bond 6741B City of Oxford Branch Chum J. Clarke 6742B City of Oxford Branch[36] Chum W. P. Hanks 6743B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. G. Gibbins 6744B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. P. Culhane 6783B Willesden & Cricklewood Branch Chum F. Astill 7314B Northampton Branch[37] Chum G. C. S. Piper 7550B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. B. Willbourn 7551B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Wootton 7553B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Smith 7554B Walthamstow Branch Chum C. R. Wright 7555B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Freestone 7558B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Blunden 7562B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. H. Leavey 7563B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Lodge 7564B Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum A. H. Murray 7565B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Reed 7566B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. T. Thorpe 7567B Walthamstow Branch Chum G. Pursey D.C.M. 7568B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. E. Motley 7569B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. Bingham 7570B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. C. Luxton 7571B Walthamstow Branch Chum J. R. Middleton 7572B Walthamstow Branch Chum T. Riddle 7573B Walthamstow Branch Chum W. J. Kay 7574B Walthamstow Branch[38] Chum E. B. Dunning 7575B Walthamstow Branch Chum A. C. Hall 7576B Walthamstow Branch Chum G. Stewart 7577B Walthamstow Branch Chum T. W. Pope 7578B Walthamstow Branch Chum H. C. Casey 7579B Walthamstow Branch Chum Coggins 8003B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. Buckingham 8806B City of Oxford Branch Chum H. J. Edmunds 8807B City of Oxford Branch Chum W. G. Burnett 8812B Keighley Branch Chum R. W. M. Emery 8815B Keighley Branch Chum F. Sugden 8816B Keighley Branch Chum A. V. Liddimore 8817B Keighley Branch Chum S. Metcalfe 8820B Keighley Branch Chum C. Carroll 8821B Keighley Branch Chum W. T. Pye 8822B Keighley Branch Chum W. Grange 8823B Keighley Branch Chum T. Duckett 8824B Keighley Branch Chum J. T. Tinkler 8825B Keighley Branch Chum T. Henry 8826B Keighley Branch Chum H. Hardisty M.M. 8827B Keighley Branch Chum G. Kershaw M.M. 8828B Keighley Branch Chum W. Pryke 8829B Keighley Branch Chum T. H. Hayes 8830B Keighley Branch Chum W. Cox 8831B Keighley Branch Chum S. Constable M.M. 9233B South Staffordshire Branch Chum E. Foy 9467B Keighley Branch Chum C. Silverwood 9468B Keighley Branch Chum G. H. Bugler 9469B Keighley Branch Chum J. Martin 9470B Keighley Branch Chum H. Hainsworth 9471B Keighley Branch Chum J. R. Langstaff 9472B Keighley Branch Chum C. Catterson 9473B Keighley Branch Chum C. B. Baker 9475B Keighley Branch Chum G. Langstaffe 9476B Keighley Branch Chum T. Jowett 9873B Keighley Branch Chum F. Gower 9874B Keighley Branch Chum M. A. Gardner 9877B Keighley Branch Chum P. Moore 9878B Keighley Branch Chum W. Walworth 9880B Keighley Branch Chum J. W. Davis 9896B Keighley Branch Chum F. Stephenson 285C Keighley Branch Chum A. P. Wilson 286C Keighley Branch Chum A. Nixon 287C Keighley Branch Chum J. Winkley 288C Keighley Branch Chum W. Dixon 289C Keighley Branch Chum I. Moorhouse 291C Keighley Branch Chum J. W. Daynes 292C Keighley Branch Chum W. Longman 293C Keighley Branch Chum C. Goff 294C Keighley Branch Chum J. Whitehall 619C Keighley Branch Chum H. Driver 1567C Keighley Branch Chum H. Boyes 1570C Keighley Branch Chum J. E. Geldard 1573C Keighley Branch Chum W. Whitaker 1574C Keighley Branch Chum W. Normington 1575C Keighley Branch Chum M. Derrick 1576C Keighley Branch Chum J. Chalmers 1909C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. W. Budd 1910C Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Robinson 1913C Walthamstow Branch Chum L. W. Wilmott 1915C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Hydon 1916C Walthamstow Branch Chum H. A. Gale 1917C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. H. Springate 1918C Walthamstow Branch Chum F. S. Yates 2339C Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Ideson 2526C Keighley Branch Chum O. Ellis 2528C Keighley Branch Chum G. Whittemore 2529C Keighley Branch Chum W. Templeton 2530C Keighley Branch Chum J. Thomas 2532C Keighley Branch Chum A. Smith 2534C Keighley Branch Chum L. J. Parsons 3342C Walthamstow Branch Chum G. S. Smith 3343C Walthamstow Branch Chum A. E. Winchcombe 4574C Swindon Branch Chum R. Pearson 368D Darlington Branch Chum C. Cawston 644D Keighley Branch Chum B. Hum 645D Keighley Branch Chum J. Green 646D Keighley Branch Chum J. Birdsall 647D Keighley Branch Chum W. N. Morris 1807D Reading Branch[39] Chum W. L. Harbach 2024D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum E. Harrington 2025D Walthamstow Branch Chum L. C. F. Bull 2026D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. H. G. Clark 2027D Walthamstow Branch Chum H. G. Mason 2028D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. H. Walker 2029D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum G. Murray 2031D Walthamstow Branch Chum F. S. Townsend 2032D Walthamstow Branch Chum F. J. Byerley 2033D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Preece 2035D Walthamstow Branch (Badge Lost) Chum C. Timby 2036D Walthamstow Branch Chum S. A. Clark 2037D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum C. Keary 2038D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Mayhew 2041D Walthamstow Branch Chum A. Murton 2045D Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Chatten 2049D Keighley Branch Chum A. H. Chittenden 2787D Dover Branch Chum T. Bradley 3405D Walthamstow Branch Chum E. Price 3461D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. Law 3462D Walthamstow Branch Chum S. F. Coles M.M. 3463D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. G. Dallison 3464D Walthamstow Branch Chum H. T. Stephens 3465D Walthamstow Branch Chum A. T. Hennah 3466D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. A. Hurst 3467D Walthamstow Branch Chum W. J. Jones 3582D Stockport Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum T. A. Goff 3754D Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Lodge 3755D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum G. J. Worton 3756D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. J. Brown 3758D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Worth 3760D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum C. L. Young 3763D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. H. Guile 4055D Worthing Branch Chum D. W. Gammage 4856D Ipswich & District Branch Chum A. Blake 6274D Reading Branch Chum J. Finan 6572D Keighley Branch[40] Chum F. W. Butler 7087D Hounslow Branch Chum R. S. Cosburn 7124D Walthamstow Branch Chum G. E. Preece 7125D Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum R. E. Worrall 7128D Walthamstow Branch Chum P. L. Beatty 8573D Bishops Stortford Branch Chum C. H. Knowles 305E Walthamstow Branch Chum J. R. C. Feaver 460E Walthamstow Branch[41] Chum C. W. F. Francis 2580E Uxbridge Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum A. E. Joyce 3102E Lewisham Branch Chum H. E. Camp 3122E Dagenham Branch Chum C. Jeffreys 3219E Walthamstow Branch Chum H. Warner 3655E Walthamstow Branch Chum J. W. Palmer D.C.M. 3696E Walthamstow Branch Chum A. H. Trolley 3730E Walthamstow Branch Chum S. S. Mallinson 4019E Walthamstow Branch (Replacement Badge) Chum H. C. De Fraine 4020E Walthamstow Branch Chum F. March 4021E Walthamstow Branch Chum G. J. De Vere 4022E Walthamstow Branch [1] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [2] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [3] Chum Field Marshal Sir George Francis Milne, President of The Old Contemptibles’ Association. [4] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [5] Founder of the West Hartlepool Branch in 1928. [6] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [7] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [8] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch, [9] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [10] Later transferred to London S.W. No. 1 (Wandsworth) Branch. [11] Later transferred to Southend-on-Sea Branch. [12] Later transferred to Woolwich & District Branch. [13] Later joined Walthamstow Branch and transferred to West Ham Branch. [14] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [15] Founder member of the Walthamstow Branch. [16] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch and Clacton-on-Sea Branch. [17] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [18] Founder member of the Walthamstow Branch, the original Branch that Chum Scrivens was a member of is not known. [19] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [20] Chum Tovey joined the Walthamstow Branch on 9 March 1938. His previous Branch is not known. [21] Chum King joined the Cheltenham Branch on its formation in 1947, but had previously lived in London. [22] Transferred to the Walthamstow Branch on 28 January 1946. The Badge number recorded on the Walthamstow Branch Nominal Roll has no letter suffix. [23] Later transferred to Glasgow Branch. [24] Chum Goodman joined the Walthamstow Branch on 15 February 1936 and, based on the information recorded on the Branch Nominal Roll, he was issued with the Badge that had belonged to Chum Fulker. [25] Chum Seymour joined the Walthamstow Branch later in 1933 and was given the badge originally issued to Chum Laver. [26] Struck of Walthamstow Branch Roll – Badge not returned. [27] Later transferred to Edmonton Branch. [28] Transferred to Keighley Branch on 1 February 1938. [29] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [30] Later transferred to Cambridge Branch. [31] Badge sold with 1914 Star and Clasp Group by Dix, Noonan and Webb on 16 April 2020. [32] Joined the Keighley Branch on 8 September 1944. His previous Branch is not recorded on his Application Form. [33] Joined the Walthamstow Branch on 17 June 1945, his previous Branch is not recorded on the Nominal Roll. [34] Later transferred to Southend-on-Sea Branch. [35] Later transferred to London S.W. No.1 (Wandsworth) Branch. [36] Later transferred to Barnstaple Branch. [37] Later transferred to Bournemouth Branch. [38] Later transferred to Guildford Branch. [39] Later transferred to Walthamstow Branch. [40] No letter suffix recorded on Branch Application Form. Chum Finan joined the Keighley Branch in June 1945. [41] Later transferred to Founder (Hackney) Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 25 January , 2021 Admin Share Posted 25 January , 2021 I have one to Chum Large , looks like 6348. Chippenham Branch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 25 January , 2021 Share Posted 25 January , 2021 Is there a letter after the number, Michelle? Chippenham Branch was formed after the letter suffix was introduced to badges so would expect to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 25 January , 2021 Admin Share Posted 25 January , 2021 It might be H. The badge was dug up from my in laws garden some years ago. The cottage where they live was formerly owned by Mr Large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 25 January , 2021 Share Posted 25 January , 2021 It is a B Michelle, which ties in with when the Chippenham Branch was opened in October 1937. Thank you as I can add him to the list - I already have his details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 25 January , 2021 Admin Share Posted 25 January , 2021 Thanks Andrew, it's quite hard to see, and I am loath to try and clean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 25 January , 2021 Share Posted 25 January , 2021 I personally think it is best to leave it 'as found.' Besides, it was against the Rules of The Old Contemptibles' Association to polish badges, although there is plenty of evidence that many Chums did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1963 Posted 13 October , 2021 Share Posted 13 October , 2021 Hi all, I have badge 3556. It was my grandfathers. Thomas Henry Godbold RHA 76624. Member of Woolwich branch and possibly the youngest "Chum". DOB 3/2/1900 and enlisted 7/3/1914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 13 October , 2021 Share Posted 13 October , 2021 (edited) Fantastic Dave. Chum Godbold was just pipped to the post as the youngest Old Contemptible by Chum Dennis Kearns, who in 1914 was a Bugler with the Portsmouth Battalion RMLI and was taken prisoner at Antwerp. Chum Kearns was born on 15 February 1900. Edited 13 October , 2021 by AndrewThornton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1963 Posted 13 October , 2021 Share Posted 13 October , 2021 Thanks Andrew. It looks like the paper of the day got their facts wrong. I guess it wouldn't be the first time....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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