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Cecil Richard Webb MC, Capt., E. Afr. Pro. Force

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michaeldr

I'm way outside my usual province here and would appreciate any help with back ground information on the military career of

Temp. Capt. Cecil Richard Webb (Capt., E. Afr. Pro. Force) who was awarded the MC, gazetted 1st Feb 1917 [see http://www.london-ga...upplements/1145]

Many thanks in advance

Michael

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michaeldr

Two more snippets from the LG to help build up a picture

From http://www.london-ga...pplements/12663

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 4 DECEMBER, 1917, 12663

Corps of Royal Engineers

The undermentioned to be temp.

Majors: — Temp. Capt. C. R. Webb, M.C., from Gen. List, and to retain his Staff Appt. 5th Dec. 1917.

from http://www.london-ga...pplements/10158

10158 SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 30 AUGUST, 1918

Dep. Asst. Dir. of Railway Traffic (Cl. BB.).

Lt. A. J. F. Millar, Ind. Army., Res. Of Off., and to be temp. Maj. whilst so empld.,

vice temp. Maj. C. R. Webb, M.C., R.E. (Capt., E. Afr. Protectorate Force). 1st Mar. 1918.

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SteveE

His Medal Index Card states he entered the East African theatre (4a) on 5th August 1914 as a Captain on the East African Unattached & Miscellaneous List, transferred to Rlys (Railways) as a Major and a commission as such in the Royal Engineers. Awarded the 1914-1915 Star, British War & Victory Medals and emblems for M.I.D.

Gave his address at time of application for medals as 15 Westcliffe Terrace, Harrogate, Yorks.

His Mention in Despatches was recorded in London Gazette #30829, dated 6th August 1918, Page 9220. Link.... http://www.london-ga...upplements/9220

As an officer he has a file at The National Archives, Kew under reference; WO 339/129821, Description: WEBB C, Date: [1914-1922]

Regards

Steve

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SteveE

A couple of earlier snippets for you.

HEADQUARTERS or ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES

AND DEPARTMENTS.

Railway Trans. Officers (Graded for purposes

of pay as Staff Capts.).- Capt. C. R. Webb,

Unattd. List, E. Afr. Protectorate Forces,

and to be temp. Capt. whilst so empld. 1st

Oct. 1915.

http://www.london-ga...9656/pages/6745

HD. QRS. OF ADMIN. SERVS. AND DEPTS.

Dep. Asst. Dirs. of Railway Trans.- (Graded

for purposes of pay as D.A.Q.M.Gs.)-

Temp. Capt. C. R. Webb. 9th Nov. 1915.

Regards

Steve

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michaeldr

Steve,

That's a big help

many thanks

Michael

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bushfighter

I can only hazard a guess as to why he got the MC but it may have been for infantry operations that two of the Railway Companies (25th & 26th) were involved in near Korogwe in mid-July 1916 (OH pp 317-322).

The CO, Lt Col C.W. Wilkinson RE, was awarded a DSO on 13 February 1917 for:

conspicuous gallantry in action. He displayed great courage and skill in handling a hastily improvised force under difficult conditions, and was largely instrumental in clearing parties of the enemy from the lines of communication.

Wilkinson had four other British officers with him on his operations.

Harry

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bushfighter

Michael

Greetings

Deep inside my LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRES IN EAST AFRICA thread:

are my own photographs of the ground that Wilkinson's men fought over, with descriptions.

Maybe a search for KOROGWE could throw the sequence up.

Harry

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michaeldr

Harry,

Once more, many thanks for the leads on this

Your photography on that thread certainly gives a good idea of the terrain

regards

Michael

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Guest thedweeb

Michael, were you able to find any more about C R Webb's MC? He was my grandfather and I've been wondering about this for a while. Thanks, Dan.

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michaeldr

Dan,



Thank you for your enquiry


I'm afraid that I have not got any further with his MC



Perhaps I should explain that my position here has been that of a middle-man


C R Webb's infant daughter, Felicity Ann, is buried in Haifa's old Protestant cemetery and I had two tasks;


to provide a photograph of the grave for a Webb family member in the UK, and information for a local student who was building a web-site around the cemetery.



If you think that I can be of further help to you on this then please feel free to contact me by a Personal Message



best regards


Michael

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JulianR

Cecil Richard Webb, O.B.E[1] M.C[2] M.i.D[3]. (1887-1974) son of Samuel George Mower Webb, a CoE clergyman,  and Bertha Hollis, born Saxton Yorkshire 17th August 1887, married Beatrice Helen Gordon Ballingall, 1 s 1 d.  dies 4th April, 1974 at Bexhill, educ St John’s Foundation School, Leatherhead.  had a not-untypical career for a colonial railwayman.  He began on the North Eastern Railway 1904-14, then became Assistant Traffic Manager on Uganda Railway; his war service is as follows.  His Medal Index Card states he entered the East African theatre (4a) on 5th August 1914 as a Captain on the East African Unattached & Miscellaneous List, transferred to Rlys (Railways) as a Major and a commission as such in the Royal Engineers. Awarded the 1914-1915 Star, British War & Victory Medals and emblems for M.I.D. https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29587/supplement/4956 HEADQUARTERS or ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES

AND DEPARTMENTS. Railway Trans. Officers (Graded for purposes of pay as Staff Capts.).- Capt. C. R. Webb, Unattd. List, E. Afr. Protectorate Forces, and to be temp. Capt. whilst so empld.  1st Oct. 1915https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29656/page/6745  HD. QRS. OF ADMIN. SERVS. AND DEPTS. Dep. Asst. Dirs. of Railway Trans.- (Graded for purposes of pay as D.A.Q.M.Gs.)-Temp. Capt. C. R. Webb. 9th Nov. 1915  https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30412/supplement/12663

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 4 DECEMBER, 1917, 12663 Corps of Royal Engineers The undermentioned to be temp. Majors: — Temp. Capt. C. R. Webb, M.C., from Gen. List, and to retain his Staff Appt. 5th Dec. 1917  https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30875/supplement/10158

10158 SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 30 AUGUST, 1918 Dep. Asst. Dir. of Railway Traffic (Cl. BB.).— Lt. A. J. F. Millar, Ind. Army., Res. Of Off., and to be temp. Maj. whilst so empld., vice temp. Maj. C. R. Webb, M.C., R.E. (Capt., E. Afr. Protectorate Force). 1st Mar. 1918.

 

 

following war service in East Africa he became Traffic Manager of Tanganyika Railway 1919-23, then General Manager of Sierra Leone Railway 1923-30  From 1930-1942 he was General Manager of Palestine Railways, then moved to spend 1943-45 at the Ministry of War Transport in Cape Town and the Ministry of Transport in London 1945-47.

 

 

See Who was Who Vol 7


[1] LG Supplement 33179, page 4416, 2nd July, 1926

[2] LG Supplement 29926, page 1145, 30th Jan, 1917 to Temp Capt. C.R. Webb, East African Protection Force

[3] LG 30829, Page 9220. 6th August 1918,

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michaeldr

Julian,

 

Thank you for adding to the story here

 

Michael

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JulianR

Unfortunately I do not have Vol 7 of Who was Who, the one I am missing

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seaJane

It's online at   http://www.ukwhoswho.com combined with Who's Who if you have a UK library card.

If you don't, I can look.

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JulianR

Jane,

 

Please look, I do not have a library card.

 

many thanks

 

Julian

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seaJane

Hi Julian,

 

I'm sending the details in a private message.

 

sJ

 

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