Gunner Bailey Posted 17 October , 2016 Share Posted 17 October , 2016 Assaf - Those are definitely Turkish and there are a few around. It's the half moon slider that makes this one unique. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calibre792x57.y Posted 18 October , 2016 Share Posted 18 October , 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 15:06, Gunner Bailey said: Here's a rare one that's hard to find. Can't be too hard to find if you are looking in the collection of the IWM can it? - SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 20 hours ago, calibre792x57.y said: Can't be too hard to find if you are looking in the collection of the IWM can it? - SW That's a wild assumption. The grenade pictured is in a private collection and I was privileged to photograph it. John On 11/10/2016 at 15:19, 14276265 said: Nice to see one with just a rod rather than the Hay Pocket Howitzer (spigot mortar) finned tail. Good photo, thanks. 265 I've never seen a photo of the Hay mortar - anyone got a photo? I've always assumed it was a bit like the Grenatenwerfer launcher. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14276265 Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 59 minutes ago, Gunner Bailey said: I've never seen a photo of the Hay mortar - anyone got a photo? I've always assumed it was a bit like the Grenatenwerfer launcher. John No photo, but a drawing from Munitions Design Committee documents, May 1916. 265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 19 October , 2016 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2016 2 hours ago, GWF1967 said: Half of a Mills No5. GWF1967, Very nice collection. Your No.5 Base Plug ' B.E.C. Ltd ' was made by the Birmingham Engineering Co. Ltd., of South Yardley, Birmingham. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 50 minutes ago, Lancashire Fusilier said: GWF1967, Very nice collection. Your No.5 Base Plug ' B.E.C. Ltd ' was made by the Birmingham Engineering Co. Ltd., of South Yardley, Birmingham. Regards, LF Thanks LF, and thanks for the maker info. You get JUST what you want if you buy your own birthday pressie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 1 hour ago, 14276265 said: No photo, but a drawing from Munitions Design Committee documents, May 1916. 265 Many thanks - never seen that at all before. Interesting concept and more portable than the Grenatenwerfer. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 (edited) On 10/11/2016 at 15:06, Gunner Bailey said: Looks like # 819 has everyone stumped. Here's a rare one that's hard to find. Could you tell me the model number please Gunner B, I'd like to see one from some more angles. Edited 19 October , 2016 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Could you tell me the model number please Gunner B, I'd like to see one from some more angles. This is the No 17 Rifle Grenade -often called the 'Opera Hat' grenade. It was a Royal Laboratories concoction designed to be cheaper than the No 3. However it arrived about the same time as the No 20 so as there was no advantage over the Hales family on price and stocks were converted for use with the Hay Mortar 'Pocket Howitzer'. There was some operational use as a rifle grenade but it was very limited. I'll resize some more photos. John Edited 19 October , 2016 by Gunner Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 Here's a side view. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 19 October , 2016 Share Posted 19 October , 2016 53 minutes ago, Gunner Bailey said: Here's a side view. John Great stuff John, Many thanks indeed for the picture and information. Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venceremos Posted 5 December , 2016 Share Posted 5 December , 2016 Grenades which used byTurkish 15 corps in Galizia, Ukraine (exept left one from below). Both from below made from zynk alloy. Two from the top made by Bulgarian (arsenal marking). All another ball grenades may be bulgarian also, may be no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 5 December , 2016 Share Posted 5 December , 2016 5 minutes ago, venceremos said: Grenades which used byTurkish 15 corps in Galizia, Ukraine (exept left one from below). Both from below made from zynk alloy. Two from the top made by Bulgarian (arsenal marking). All another ball grenades may be bulgarian also, may be no. Very interesting collection. Any chance of some more pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venceremos Posted 5 December , 2016 Share Posted 5 December , 2016 Bulgarians and marking on zynk one. I have one more for sale, it has the same marking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 6 December , 2016 Share Posted 6 December , 2016 On 19/10/2016 at 18:29, Gunner Bailey said: Here's a side view. John Fantastic piece, especially with what I presume is original paint. Is that label on the side legible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith119 Posted 27 December , 2016 Share Posted 27 December , 2016 The British soldiers that were trained to use grenades (i.e. Bombers) wore a patch of flaming grenade in red on the right shoulder of their tunic. Did those who used the rifle grenades (i.e. rifle bombers) wear the same patch as those that launched grenades by hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 27 December , 2016 Share Posted 27 December , 2016 Query the supposition that not all British soldiers were trained to use hand grenades. German interrogations of British prisoners almost always say that all troops were trained in the use of grenades, for example 'It was expected that all soldiers would have thrown at least one live hand grenade before they left England'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith119 Posted 28 December , 2016 Share Posted 28 December , 2016 Yes, there would all be familiar with grenades but I was referring to the badge worn on the uniform of those specializing in the Mills Bomb (bombing sections or squads). I know there are badges for trench mortar men, Lewis Gunners and bombers (grenadiers). Never did seen a special proficiency badge for those who had special training in the use of the rifle grenade. I am thinking it was same as those that had specialized grenade training (red flaming grenade) but I was wondering if anyone here knew for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 31 December , 2016 Share Posted 31 December , 2016 On 06/12/2016 at 13:41, wainfleet said: Fantastic piece, especially with what I presume is original paint. Is that label on the side legible? No sorry it's a museum label from a long time ago and the ink has faded away. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 23 April , 2017 Share Posted 23 April , 2017 A new find this weekend. Painted unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 24 April , 2017 Share Posted 24 April , 2017 Very nice Grenatenwerfer. Fuze looks much better than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted 29 April , 2017 Share Posted 29 April , 2017 Hi All, I was wondering if anyone had one of these primers for a No36 Mk4 Mills? I've been looking for an inert one but had no luck. A relative makes repro Roman armour and is going to try and use his skills to make one for me but we need some dimensions. Can anyone help? Thanks, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 10 May , 2017 Share Posted 10 May , 2017 On 29/04/2017 at 19:29, Shiny said: Hi All, I was wondering if anyone had one of these primers for a No36 Mk4 Mills? Michael Please explain a Mk 4 Mills? Never heard of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted 10 May , 2017 Share Posted 10 May , 2017 Hi, Sorry, that's me getting things wrong as usual. I have a No 36 M Mk1 drill grenade (see the photo in post 683) and am looking for an inert primer to go inside it. I'm not sure where I got Mk 4 from. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 11 May , 2017 Share Posted 11 May , 2017 That's good, I thought you had just re written Mills 36 history! There a guy on ebay who make repro grenade parts. He does make batches of Mills 36 and No 5 detonators. May be worth contacting him. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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