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2/Lt William Muir Clark Black Watch


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Read with interest a 2 page story in todays Scottish Sunday Mail about this man (sorry, it's not online yet), living in America, he came back to the UK in May 1915 and joined the Black Watch. He was KIA 20/11/1917 age 19 serving with the 1/7th http://www.cwgc.org/...K, WILLIAM MUIR

The piece contains a photo of him in Black Watch O/R's battle dress, one group photo that I assume is an Officer training course as all the men wearing white bands on their various Glengarry's, TOS' and Caps and another of a newspaper memorial piece to him which a muppet of a picture editor has decided to super impose a photo of a trench whistle over.

Now the mystery, the piece states he was awarded the MM, DCM, Belgian C de G and Medaille Millitaire, all of which I can just make out on his memorial piece thanks to the whistle, yet when I identified him by his MIC http://search.ancest...uidh=000&nreg=1 it appears he only has 1 MIC for S/9156 Pte and 2/Lt , the DCM and MM maybe on that, but I can't view it as my works PC doesn't have the appropriate "flash player".

I've checked the LG and can't find anything for his O/R Service number for the DCM or MM, also there is no mention of either medal on his CWGC or SNWM (Scottish National War Memorial) entry, I have found 4 entries for a Temporary Quartermaster and Honorary Lieutenant http://discovery.nat...=61&image1.y=14 I wonder if this is him? Strange if he was a QM aged 18/19.

Anyone have any luck?

Sam

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MIC shows:

VM,BWM and 1915 Star.

Posted to France on 17 Sep 1915.

Commissioned on 29 May 1917

Medals applied for by his father.

The card is hard to read in places but it looks like he went from Private to 2nd Lt. He could have been a Q.M. as 2nd Lt if it fits the time period.

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There is DCM citation for a W Clark with the Royal Highlanders but its for S/3799 although if your man had a DCM it doesn't always appear to have a citation available.

He has a second card which is MID for the L.G of 4/1/1917, vol 29890, Page 232

I can't see the 3rd and 4th card that the N/A has on Ancestry.

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There is a CQMS W Clark 8th Bn who got the DCM & Belgian C de G. No MM though.

There was a Lt QM in the 9th who got a MC & MID twice.

Fred

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2nd Lt William Muir Clark

Joined 7th Bn 10.10.17

Killed 20.11.17

Obituary in The Scotsman 30.11.17 (Abridged)

Son of Mr & Mrs James B Clark, Clifton Arizona, formerly of Peebles, Vol for active service May 15 when 17 years old, enlisted in BW as a private, Distinguished career .DCM, MM; decorated by the King with the Belgian C de Guerre.

Wounded 4 times.

My own notes show

Pte. WM Clark 2756 published in wounded lists on 6/7/15, wounded list of 19/6/15.

Pte. WM Clark 267867 published in wounded lists on 29/12/17, wounded list compiled under various dates.

Fred

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Found this Belgian CdeG entry for S/3799 Company Quartermaster Serjeant William Clark DCM 8th RH stating "Selkirk" for his place of residence http://www.london-ga...pplements/11217 but it's dated Sept 1919, almost 2 years after William Muir Clark was KIA as a 2/Lt, but as it's a foreign medal it could have been issued to those KIA and survived,.It may all depend on the definition of a "Honorary Lieutenant".

Edited to add: Fred is that the one he's photographed wearing a white band round his Glengarry that's titled "Young Hero Killed"? It also says near the bottom (from what I can make out because of the whistle) "decorated by the King with the Belgian CdeG", It maybe the one the Sunday Mail is using.

Sam

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Finally found the story http://www.dailyreco...rld-war-1429962 but the photo's are different, the one of his obituary and the photo of an Officers training course aren't replicated, but there is a new one (2nd photo) that's a mine of information, the picture editor again screwed it up, but I managed to find an unaltered image on Google images below, it clearly shows a 1914-15 Star, a Victory Medal sitton on the Star ribbon, but most importantly ribbons for the DCM, MM, Medaille Militaire and Belgian CdeG.

http://i2.dailyrecor... Clark Reynolds

I couln't find an image of the obituary, however when I googled his name, I found this old thread http://1914-1918.inv...pic=96976&st=25 and post #45 from forum member ronmarsden has a photo which he states:

"On the back of this postcard is written Dcoy Hut 33 10th OCB Gailes Ayrshire.

It is signed W M Clark. There is a 2/Lieut WM Clark 7th Fife Bn joined 10 10 17 -- KIA 20 11 17."

The man on the left is the same William Muir Clark as the photo on his obituary is a cropped head and shoulders shot from this photo, forum Tom A McCluskey made some comments about him in post #46 of the thread and posted his MIC in posts #47 and #48, interestingly as you can see from the photo, he doesn't wear his DCM or MM ribbon, was it considered bad form?

Anyroad up, it still leaves the mystery of the LG entries, where are they?

Could the 4 x MIC's on the NA's made out to "Temporary Quartermaster and Honorary Lieutenant WM Clark" be him?

Was he appointed to the post prior to leaving the Bn as a springboard to his Commisioning course?

I'm going to contact the Journalist who wrote the piece to try and find out.

Sam

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Could the 4 x MIC's on the NA's made out to "Temporary Quartermaster and Honorary Lieutenant WM Clark" be him?

I would say almost certainly.

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So while he's a "Temp Lt" would that mean he could only earn OR's medals, even though he commanded a Coy? Frustratingly, I still can't find LG entries for the DCM and MM.

He would have been entitled to any medals consummate with his rank ( even if temporary )

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He is on the Peebles war memorial.

Fred

Hi Fred

Part of the Sunday Mail story said his family did a lot of fund raising for the Peebles memorial.

Sam

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Thanks Sam.

There is a book on them that a guy who used to work beside me showed me.

I have a cd somewhere that I bought in Peebles museum on the memorial.

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