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museumtom

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Thank you George. Great stuff indeed. I could not find anything on him.

Kind regards.

Tom.

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Nothing on FMP other than medals though

 

George

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There are 3 cards for him. Two have him as 635, one as 625. The 625 one has him as Connaught Rangers and that is the one that shows his DoD correctly, Bit of digging to be done

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Morahan

These appear relavant:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Drumreilly_South/Sranadarragh/1482835/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Ballinamore/Fohera/645669/

Daughter Caroline is on Death Cert. Mary (B)ridget is on one of the WFA cards

But not totally sure at the moment. Ages a bit off. Although he ages from 32 to 49 in 10 years!!

Like George I am finding a complete lack of military records. 

 

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Thanks Mark and George. The lack of records seems very prevalent in these post war death, mores the pity.

 Thank you for looking and all your help.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Niland

His US Draft Registration Card is dated 12/9/1918 so I suspect he never served overseas with US Army ?

 

Edit- I note this says he was born Jan 1874 so would be 47.

1920 Census says single, born Wisconsin, father born Ireland so I presume it is same man ?

 

 

Charlie

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Good man Charlie. I did see the draft card but his birth location and age do not match, mores the pity.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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I may have the wrong man but I didn't see another US Registration. There's a Dominick Niland born Claremorris, Mayo 1893 and another Died 1921 Claremorris (your man) so perhaps I am wrong ?

 

And this 1911 Census for 'Island' looks a bit like Dominick and Patrick ? I'm floundering......

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The 1893 one and the 1921 one seem to be the same lad as is on the cert, but try as I might, and you might I reckon, can he be found in the U.S. Military .....yet.

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He went to the USA in 1914 on arrived in New York on 30/10/14 on SS Cedric (White Star Line). Left Queeenstown on 22/10/14. He gives his age as 19. The nok of kin is his mother Catherine Niland of Island, Ballyhaunis. So your 1911 family seems to be correct. They just appear to have been a bit confused as to his DoB

Source: Ellis Island Passenger lists

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Excellent Mark, thank you. Are you saying his draft card is correct please?

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No. I think that is a completely different chap. If you look at the draft card he says was native born in USA and was there before 1900 looking at US census returns. No Think you are right re the 1911 man and his birth is

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE/BMD/D/620475934

The other man was born 1874 and died in Wisconsin in 1942.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73032941

So cannot be him. Note his grave is located in the same town as his draft registration card

So no US draft card found for your Niland yet

He may be another we do not get to the bottom of. Seems he went to US after the 1910 census and in all probability was back in Ireland prior to their 1920 census. At least I cannot fins any record in 1920 US census so far. 

1900 census confirms he was born in Wisconsin and was living in St Croix

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You are misreading what I am saying

The wrong Dominick Niland was born in Wisocnsin in 1874 and died there in 1942. The US draft registration card George found is for him

The right one is the one you are showing in the Irish cenus for 1901.

We are therefore no further forward in locating his US Army service

The issue with US records is they very nearly all went up in smoke in a fire at their records centre in St Louis in the 1970s, So their records for WW1 are particularly rare. So without any registration card we are pretty much stuffed.

On to the next one I think. 

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Right so Mark. onward and upward. I'll see if I can find an easy one.

 

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4 hours ago, Mark1959 said:

The US draft registration card George found

Don't blame George. The confusion was all my own doing !

Charlie

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No issue. The only person that has never made a research error has never done any research. The beauty of the GWF is that we have many eyes and others have pointed out some of my howlers.

It was a reasonable assumption that further digging proved was not valid. 

Cheers all. Keep up the good work.

 

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Service record for Thomas on FMP.    "Relinguished Commission on account of ill health contracted on Active Service 3/1/1921"

 

Bob

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Brilliant group effort, thank you Mark, Bob and Charlie. I sent the whole lot to Terry and await a reply. 

Stunning research guys, I am very grateful.

 Kind regards. and fingers crossed!

 Tom.

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Thanks George.!!

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I give up on Positch ????? or whoever they may be!!

Can't even get the date!

 

George

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