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I need your help again lads and lassies.

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Mark1959

"Paralysis of the Insane" - is one of the later stages of syphilis. A nasty disease in those days

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museumtom

And we were going so well, so very very well until Terry pointed out his date of death. The limit is 31/08/1921. Silly of me lads and lassies, I apologise and will keep an eye on it in future.

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Mark1959

Joseph John Dunne. Royal Engineers WR/318534. Sapper. WFA Card. Address on card 35 Francis St,  Had to resort to looking at every John Dunne and similar until I found one at correct address.

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645021051 - no cause of discharge

There is a second card under John Dunn but adds nothing

SWB card shows 10/8/17 to 15/3/18. Sickness. That is under John Joseph Dunne. Age on discharge is 31. No overseas service according to SWB roll

 

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George Rayner

Mark is that John Joseph?

 

Ah I see now...

under John Joseph is his SWB and medal roll; under Joseph John is his WFA/Fold3 pension

No overseas service

 

George

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Mark1959

Seems to be either John or John Joseph or Joseph John. Dunn(e) the surname

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George Rayner

As always really easy!

 

George

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museumtom

Great stuff Mark and George!! It must have been very very difficult to find him with the various first names and two variations of Dunn/Dunne.

 I appreciate you help immensely, thank you very very much indeed.

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George Rayner

I'm working through the principle that A.E. is the premature son of Staff Sergeant Dyer posted at the military barracks in Kildare

 

George

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George Rayner

...and can find no-one who vaguely fits. Either dead before conception or discharged earlier to. If I have interpreted document correctly of course

 

George

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George Rayner

Ancestry/Fold 3 have a Patrick Finnegan

Name: Patrick Finnegan
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Birth Date: 1896
Residence Place: Dublin
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Discharge Date: 24 Mar 1917
Service Number: 3105
Regiment: R Irish Fus
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 13/MF/366

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61588&h=248010&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20637&_phstart=successSource

 

George

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museumtom

Thank you George, with your number I find his SWB in FMP.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/SILVERWAR/BADGES/152520

A few other possible are here.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_fn=patrick&_ln=finegan&_no=&_crp=&_ttl=&discoveryCustomSearch=true&_cr1=WO+372&_dt=M&_col=200&_hb=tna

Any sign of the critical sheet or mention of aggrav or attrib in the pension record please?

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George Rayner

Also, confirming soldier

Name: Patrick Finnegan
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Service Number: 3105
Regiment: R. Irish Fus.
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 13/W/13
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Patrick Finnegan  
Jane Finnegan Widow

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61588&h=1358648&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20644&_phstart=successSource

 

George

 

 

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Mark1959

Thomas Farrell

3/4853 Leinsters. Discharged 29/3/18. Reasons Nephritis due to war service and deafness aggravated. Card says deceased 19/8/21. Give the WFA a pat on the back. 

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645027767

In under 31/8/21 wire

This record shows him in the 2nd Leinsters in late 1917

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007330899/00015&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/SUPP/289494

Medal roll shows previously with 6th battalion

 

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Mark1959

Fitzgibbon

This seems to be relevant. Norah being a younger sister and mother

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Tralee_Urban__part_of_/Boherboy__part_of_/281767/

Seems to be also another  Norah or unless the transcribed records are wrong

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Tralee_Urban/Clonalour/1430005/

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little bob

Possible for Fitzgibbon 127239 RAF.

 

Bob

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Mark1959
1 minute ago, little bob said:

Possible for Fitzgibbon 127239 RAF.

 

Bob

WFA cards give contradictory info. One says A/451996 died after discharge. Claimant mother N. Fitzgibbon. Shows correct DoD

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645810393

The other has Bob's number with RAF crossed out and RASC stated. Same claimant but Norah. Died correct day Consumption. Died WS - whilst serving

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645810553

See here that confirms RAF service. Mother Nora

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fair79%2f1141%2f00090&parentid=gbm%2fair79%2f17541

Shows previous service with RMF as 3/6089

All a little confusing

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Mark1959
1 hour ago, George Rayner said:

Ancestry/Fold 3 have a Patrick Finnegan

Name: Patrick Finnegan
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Birth Date: 1896
Residence Place: Dublin
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Discharge Date: 24 Mar 1917
Service Number: 3105
Regiment: R Irish Fus
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 13/MF/366

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61588&h=248010&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20637&_phstart=successSource

 

George

Looks circumstantially like it is him. It is noted on reverse of card that the award should be cancelled at the end of the quarter in which the man died. The note is dated 13/10/21. He was discharged for "mental deficiency". A claim from his widow was rejected on the grounds they had married since discharge

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Mark1959

Mears:

Corisande's website describes the circumstances of his shooting in Killarney

https://www.cairogang.com/soldiers-killed/mears/mears.html

A newspaper report indicates a member of the hotel's staff, Hannah Carey, was also killed by a stray bullet in the incident

Still searching for Mayfield but absolutely no trace to date. 

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museumtom

Thank you George and Mark and Bob.

 Thomas Farrell has been accepted!!!

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Mark1959

Well done Tom. None of this would be happening without your drive and dedication. 

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little bob

CWGC   19804 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers R Baker died 4/6/1921 Grangegorman Military cemetery.

 

Bob.

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Mark1959

McKay has a WFA Card. Army Cyclist Corp. 6374. Discharged for “Paralysis of the Insane”. Aggravated”agg”. DoD noted as 1/6/21. Does not give date of discharge,

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645066693

MSM London Gazette 18/1/19 according to Index Card.

what makes you think Desmond was a soldier?

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