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I need your help again lads and lassies.

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George Rayner

That would be it then!

On with the search

 

On FMP I found this one!!!!!!!!

 

First name(s) Patrick
Last name White
Age 21
Birth year 1894
Birth town Stafford
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth country England
Service number 6002
Regiment Royal Irish Regiment
Unit / Battalion 3rd Battalion
Year 1915
Series WO 364

George

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museumtom

Thanks George, but Mark nailed it with 6264.

White, Patrick. (Waterford). Rank- . Regiment/Service;- Royal Irish Rifles. Unit;- 3rd Battalion. Ser No;- 6264. Date of death;-28/04/1920. Age;- 27. Born;- Carbally, Waterford. Enlisted;- . Residence;- 27 Ballytruckle, Waterford.. Death;- Died at 27 Ballytruckle, Waterford, from phthisis 12 months certified. His brother, Frank White was present at death.. Next of kin, etc;- Son of Patrick and Mary White, 42 Ballytruckle, Waterford. Notes-Occupation on enlistment-agricultural labourer. Died after discharge. Discharged 08/04/1916, no longer physically fit for war service.. Grave/Memorial;- . Cemetery;- Unknown. The Grey Area.

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George Rayner

Well done Mark...and Tom!

 

George

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museumtom

I have been offlline for a while decided to spendi the weekend at Camden Fort Meagher. I brought my pregnant German daughter in law with me to stay over night and enjoy the place. Fun fun fun.

 

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Mark1959

We have been missing our daily supply of Irish puzzles!

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museumtom

Sorry Mark. 1921 has been very frustrating and there are obvious  lads who qualify but there is not a sausage on them, perhaps a tempting SWB. I will be ploughing through them again tommorrow but they are almost depleted at this stage. You can see lads of 18 and 19 died, some of them died from TB, and you know they are qualifiers but the records simply are not there, and the M.I.C.'s that were usually so helpful don't covered this period.

Sorry Mark.

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George Rayner

Morning Tom,

 

Doolan appears to have a Fold3 pension entry-no access for me

Name: Thomas Doolan
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Death Date: 2 Jan 1921
Service Number: 7256
Regiment: Conn Rangers
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 13/D/6120

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61588&h=185482&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20487&_phstart=successSource

Mother listed as Kate Doolan

or this one

Name: Thomas Doolan
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Death Date: 22 Jan 1921
Service Number: 3/7256
Regiment: Conn Rangers
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 13/D/6216
Next of Kin:

Father listed as Thomas! It appears to be the same man!

 

FMP at

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007303034/00396&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7303034/17/396

 

George

 

 

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George Rayner

On Ancestry this may be your Doyle

Name: James Doyle
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Birth Date: 1899
Residence Place: 32 Mill Brow Widnes Lans
Military Service Region: North West, England
Discharge Date: 16 Nov 1919
Service Number: 33998
Regiment: M G C.
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 3/MD/No.4282

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61588&h=951296&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20496&_phstart=successSource

Again it's a Fold3/Ancestry file so no access

 

George

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Mark1959

Doolan

Nothing much on either fold3 card. Kate Doolan's address given as Gortha, Portumna, Galway would seem to confirm the i.d. No cause of discharge on either,

There is a third card that is his pension and confirm date of discharge as 16/7/16. His address is Gurtaha, Portumna on this card. Again unhelpful as to reason for discharge, 

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645016935

There is a 4th one but adds nothing. 

SWB Roll indicates sickness. Served overseas (not sure that is correct) and was only serving from 5/2/16

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museumtom

Good morning George and Mark, good to be back. I have passed on the urls and suggested folder 3 to Terry and await his reply, thank you for all the help. Who knows he might qualify? Finger crossed.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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museumtom

George you reckon that 33998 Pte Doyle is our man? I don't have access to Ancestry but he would have a strong link to Wexford. Does it say that in the record please?

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Mark1959

Doyle I think was probably discharged from the RDC 89102. Address in Sinnottstown. Showing as single. Discharged 10/4/19. GSW Back and Right shoulder attributable. Just trying to confirm

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museumtom

Thank you Mark. I see his MIC. Checking if he has any records with his other numbers. 43062, 57085, 89102

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/MCI/2392698

Nope, FMP only has his MIC.

 

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Mark1959

Doyle 89102 was previously Welsh Regt 43062, R Welsh F 57085

Medal roll indicates 

15 Welsh in F+F 15/7/16-31/8/16

10 RWF in F+F 1/9/16-21/11/16

On a War Office wounded list dated 4/12/16 - home town Wexford,

No service papers survive that I can find so far

Forgot to add WFA card gives DOD of this man as 25/5/21.

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museumtom

Thank Mark!

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George Rayner

'My' Doyle was from Widnes! And MGC

 

George

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museumtom

Thanks George, it was worth a shot!

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little bob

CWGC      7415 Royal Munster Fusiliers   P O' Driscoll served as Driscoll  Athnowen (St Mary) Curch of Ireland Cemetery.

 

Bob

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little bob

Ralph Doyle died 4/11/1921.  393627 A S C  -  12265 Royal Munster Fusiliers.  Fold 3 again.

 

Bob

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Mark1959

WFA Card Ralph Doyle 393627 RASC died 4/11/21. Mother Elizabeth Ralph https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645811871

Medal roll says T/393627 ex 12265 RDF

Transferred to RASC 4/2/18

Ooops - bit behind the other fellows

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Mark1959

Bingo!

Ralph Doyle. Cause of discharge "Paralysis of the Insane". "Agg" - aggravated. Discharged 1/5/19   WFA Card

Falkners Cottages, Dublin - same address as mother on other card. This cards give number as 397627. Reverse indicates man died late 1921. It is same man

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645021903

 

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George Rayner

Huzzah!

 

George

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museumtom

Well found Bob, George and Mark. Thank you very much indeed. You are all extremely sharp this morning.

Mark  does it say the cause of discharge in Folder 3 please? If Ralph was discharged insane he could be a contender.

 Kind regards.,

 Tom.

 

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museumtom

Just got your post Mark, he looks a good one, thank you very much!!. We will know for sure shortly. fingers crossed!!

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