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museumtom

I need your help again lads and lassies.

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museumtom

I did not see a second page, give me a sec please.

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museumtom

OK I got it, dduuhh, sorry lads. I sent it off to Terry to see what he says. Fingers crossed!

Thanks everyone for all the help.

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horatio2

charlie392 is correct. Page 2 shows WW1 service in HMS ALBION, HMS VIVID (Devonport) and HMS COLLEEN (Queenstown). His mother claimed his trio of medals.

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museumtom

Thank you horatio and Mark, does it give an next of kin names please? I dont have access to folder 3.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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George Rayner

thought I'd try for Kirby family and Ancestry found this

  1. Record information.
    Name
    John Kirby
    Birth
    abt 1874
    Death
    Apr 1920 Keighley, Yorkshire West Riding, England
  2. Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
    Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries
    Record information.
    Name
    John Kirby
    Birth
    abt 1874
    Death
    Sep 1920 Cork
     
    George

 

George

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Mark1959

Mrs Bridget Kirby. Mother. 2 Sea View, East Hill, Queenstown - now Cobh. 

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museumtom

 

Thank you George and mark, I posted his death cert which shows he died at 2 Sea View, Queenstown, and Mark shows that it is his mothers residence, fantastic!! Which gives me

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Queenstown/Sea_View_Terrace/405271/

 

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Queenstown_Urban_No__1/Sea_View_Place/1138390/

 

This gives us his parents Maurice and Bridget Kirby, born born in and lived in Cork. Using this I tried to find his birth cert 1872-1875 without success so far.

Thanks again for all your help lads, this could not progress with it.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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George Rayner

Ancestry has this-which 'is' John's brother?

 

Name: Bridget Kirby Halloran
Gender: Female
Spouse: Maurice Kirby
Child: Thomas Kirby
FHL Film Number:

255960

 

George

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George Rayner

And I cannot find any birth or baptismal records for him either.

 

George

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museumtom

Thank you George.

Yes indeed that certainly looks like him. Same as yourself no birth certs can I find.

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George Rayner

Looks like Maurice was a sailor from Ancestry-or worked on ships anyway!

But that doesn't help us...

 

George

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museumtom

Finished with 1920 now, and I cannot say I am unhappy to leave it. It was a very frustrating year to research. I only hope the M.O.D., releases the post war records and we can add more to the C.W.G.C. Having sad all that 1921 has 75% less images to evaluate so a couple of days should do it.

Thanks for all the help lads, it is not possible with your generous unselfish input.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Mark1959

Acton

Ancestry has some service papers - mixed up with other Actons. Does not include the significant doc. Ex-RDF 1890 onwards. 

From Rathnew, Wicklow

WFA card seems to say "Disability Nerves". Reverse shows 100% disability in 1920. Image courtesy of WFA

acton.jpg.45899faa5ab3135ab02e848122c4f8b5.jpg

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/644994187

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645242865

 

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museumtom

Thanks Mark, not what I was hoping to hear, but thank you for your help.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Mark1959

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Mark1959

White

These seem to be relevant

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Urban_No__4/Lower_Grange_Road/1762303/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__4_Urban/Ballytruckle/674208/

Note older brother Francis or  "Frank"

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There is a WFA card for a Patrick White. Address in Ballytruckle. Private 3/6264 Royal Irish. Discharged 8/4/16. looks like VDH due to war service. However some evidence on reverse may suggest he was still alive after 1920. One to check and rule out. 

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/645097591

Another card for him. Address hostel in Middlesborough. Still says due to war service but disability says DAH

https://www.fold3.com/image/1/643625677

2 pages for 3/6264 https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007393420%2f00067&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7393420%2f3%2f67

Suggests perhaps he is too young for your man. 

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museumtom

Excellent Mark, thank you very much. He died in 1921 so you are bang on the money, he was alive after 1920. Acton that is , not White.

Thanks again.

Tom,

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George Rayner

If he is not the one how about this one...on Ancestry

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1114/MIUK1914A_119079-00923?pid=910404&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1114%26h%3D910404%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DYiy20335%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20335&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.53373864.122646090.1560149867-1533967676.1499237068

Name: Patrick White
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1893
Birth Place: St Johns, Waterford
Age: 18
Document Year: 1911
Regimental Number: 6002
Regiment Name: Th Royal Irish Regiment
Form Title: Army Reserve (Special Reservists) Attestation

image.png.59ba56334815f40500713c4bfd601991.png

 

 

George

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museumtom

Good man George thank you very  much indeed for all your images, but your man, 6003, died in 1916.

Mark I am still going through your links...interesting stuff!

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George Rayner

Bah!

 

George

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museumtom

Mark. There is a lot there, the census was particularly helpful.

2 pages for 3/6264 https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007393420%2f00067&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7393420%2f3%2f67

Suggests perhaps he is too young for your man. ' This is where I first picked him up, he was 18 in 1913 so in 1920 he could be 25ish, his dc says he was 27 yes?

Sorry George, it was a mighty try though!

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George Rayner

Where did you find 6002 death notice? I cant find him!

 

George

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museumtom

White, Patrick. (Tipperary, Waterford).Rank- Private. Regiment/Service;- Royal Irish Regiment. Unit;- 2nd Battalion. Ser No;- 6002. Date of death;-05/01/1916. Age;- 22. Born;- St Johns, Waterford. Enlisted;- Waterford. Residence;- Barnlough, Bansha, County Tipperary. Death;- Died after discharge at Barnlough, Bansha from Pulmonary Tuberculosis, brought on by exposure and being wounded, gunshot in left forearm in action on 16/10/1914. Next of kin, etc;- Son of Thomas and Anastatia White, of Barnlough, Bansha, County Tipperary. Brother of James, Thomas and Michael White, listed in the 1901 Census in 7 Tramore Old Road, Waterford.. Notes-Added to the CWGC October 2018, from the 'In From The Cold Project'  by Volunteer Mark Duffy. Discharged at Dublin, on 05/04/1915 no longer physically fit for war service.. Grave/Memorial;- . Cemetery;-United Kingdom Book of Remembrance, Berkshire, United Kingdom. 

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/75462874/white,-patrick/

 

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