ss002d6252 Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 1 minute ago, George Rayner said: Evening is there a comment in the margin ? (just wondering what the symbol next to the RAMC on Parker and the record below indicates). Strikes me that that has been commented on in another thread as a way that the 'clerk' indicates the record has been checked but I can't track sown where it was I saw it! Why do your think it says RAMC? George My typo - should say RMLI. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 Thanks Craig-makes more sense George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 I don't think it will help the search but I suspect it's a T not a J looking at Thomas Steel and John Abbott. But as there are no Parker records anyway... Do we know the units that were onboard at the time? Could that give us a lead? And I suppose there isn't a 'passenger' list as it was an RN ship George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 The annotation medal card - cross with dots notation By Katherine, 11 October , 2014 in Interpreting documents George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 Going through the casualty list there were 33 members of the Royal Marine Light Infantry. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 20 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 20 April , 2019 Its all latin to me George, Dai, I came across all the Connemara casualties death certs, and why they are not recognised is beyond me. As I remember, besides the crew and other army personnel, one particular Army Captain died on it with his family and he is the only one remembered. Apologies for not coming back sooner but I was shampling some raspberry and apple wine, thatsh 18 proof and rather easy to dhrink. Two glasses ( they wern't small) nd I am away with the fairies, and I don't even believe in them! At a euro a bottle you don't mind spending the money if you get the quality. Thanks for all the help lads! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 The closest name among LAURENTIC casualties is Steward Ernest G PARK, an MMR rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 20 April , 2019 Share Posted 20 April , 2019 This may be a complete red herring, but CWGC has a James Parker RMLI of HMS ORAMA, died 01/02/1917, for whom I can find nothing in Discovery. Could he have been accidentally lumped in with Laurentic's casualties at some point? https://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08-HMS_Orama.htm died of falling into no.3 hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Thank you Horatio and Seajane. Your help and guidance is very much appreciated with this enigma. Horatio, indeed it could be him. But more is needed, I reckon, and as I only record Irishmen or those with Irish links to the 26 counties he would not be for me. Seajane, than you for your suggestion. All things are possible I suppose. I hope everyone is having a great Easter and enjoying the good weather. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Lovely thanks. Watch the sun rise over Suffolk. Nothing better from my viewpoint George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Y'know is sounds lovely George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 This is becoming really frustrating. I am coming across lots of names of these washed up sailors that I cannot find. They should be a subject on their own. If anyone fancies taking this on I would be happy to send you on the PDF's of the death certs, There are unknown graves here in the 26 counties and more than likely that is where they are buried. You can see by the certs their body 'was caused to be buried by' followed by a name of the man who interred them. You can see that not all the men washed up on a particular spot were not all buried in the same place (sorry for the double negative). I can see some of them on the Tower Hill memorial, and other Naval memorials. I did say this to Terry that it might be possible to link them to a particular grave and he says it is almost an impossible task. You need not only to show for certain that the body in the grave is sailor 'X' but you also have to show that it cannot be anyone else. I really have to pass these naval men by, or it would take forever to complete the project. Now, the dog says I have to go walkies and unscramble the ould brain. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Once we get to the end perhaps another look. Keep them all in one place in the meantime! George Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Thanks George! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 (edited) Now then, a real poser on an Easter Sunday. This soldiers death cert is attached but his records say he was still alive in 1919 and aged 29, or am I completely wrong? I would appreciate your opinions please, because I am stumped. Kind regards. Tom. Formerly RDF In the Census he is here:- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Waterloo_Lane/10320/ First name(s) Edward Last name Armstrong Age 27 Birth year 1889 Birth country Ireland Service number 25801 Regiment Royal Defence Corps Unit / Battalion 45th Battalion Year 1915 Residence town Dublin Residence county Suffolk Residence country England Series WO 363 Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents' Archive The National Archives Record set British Army Service Records Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory First World War Collections from Great Britain, UK None Edited 21 April , 2019 by museumtom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Are you sure that you have the right man? Have a look at the record for Driver 47674 Edward Armstrong Royal Field Artillery. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 (edited) The pension for #78416 Edwards shows he was certainly alive in 1919 and had given 2 Great Clarence Street as his contract address for his pension claim.https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/WO363-4/7291523/7/191 The man mentioned by Bob is shown as living at 2 Great Charles Street, was a pensioner and is certified as dying on 2 Nov 1917.https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007258384/01999&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7258384/146/1999 Edit: corrected Craig Edited 21 April , 2019 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 I have his address as 2 Great Charles Street, Mountjoy Square, Dublin, not 2 Great Clarence Street. Charles Street is on the death certificate. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 45 minutes ago, little bob said: I have his address as 2 Great Charles Street, Mountjoy Square, Dublin, not 2 Great Clarence Street. Charles Street is on the death certificate. Bob Yes, taking another look I agree with you Bob. Edited my previous post on that basis. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Could I just add that in all my years of practice, this is the first time I have ever seen a man diagnosed with eclampsia! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclampsia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 54 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: Yes, taking another look I agree with you Bob. Edited my previous post on that basis. Craig Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 31 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: Could I just add that in all my years of practice, this is the first time I have ever seen a man diagnosed with eclampsia! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclampsia Have you not seen Junior ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Eclampsia was a first for me lads. Thanks guys, I knew you would unravel the mystery, the two Edwards looked like the same man, but I needed your expert eyes to sort it out. You have not let me down, fingers crossed he gets through. I will not know until Tuesday though. I appreciate all the time and effort you spent on my hero. Time that you could have been spending in the beautiful sun, for which I am most grateful. Thanks again. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2019 Another difficult one, beyond my humble efforts to establish who this lad is, can you help please? Thanking you all most sincerely in advance. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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