Admin spof Posted 15 April , 2019 Admin Share Posted 15 April , 2019 I've had to remove some images posted in this thread as the source of them was not acknowledged. A gentle reminder of the Forum Rules rto which everyone has agreed to: Members should acknowledge sources when quoting or using material from external sources otherwise these items may be removed without notice. To protect the GWF posts that do not respect these rules may be edited or removed at any time, as may content that is asserted to be posted in breach of copyright. Glen GWF Admin Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Thanks George, the amount of dates of death in SDGW and CWGC that are different than the deaths certs is colossal, so I rarely try and change it, just note the differences. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Hello again all. Can you help please with the following image. I cannot read it nor can I find him. It looks like Frederick Coppes from London, by I could be way off there. Can you help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Apologies Glen George Tom, On the Frederick Collins search-has it been finalised? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Yes, I did post that I found him as Gilkes and I had him in my files already. Its made that he would be recorded as Collins. Thanks for keeping up with me on this George. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Thanks Tom This one is tricky. So far Frederick C****** Ryan born 1892+/- died 8th March 1916, Dr Steeven's Hospital Dublin is that? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Ancestry has this... Name: Frederick Ryan Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916 Death Age:23 Registration district: Dublin South Volume:2 Page:568 FHL Film Number:0101606 George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Thansks for looking George. This has me totally dumfounded, if Collins could be Gilkes I am sure that Coppes could be Ryan? I read it Frederick Coppes from London, but now, with your lateral eye it could just as well be Frederick C--- Ryan! Damned if I can find him though. I would never have considered Ryan, but you make a great case, thank you George! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Yes I read it as Frederick Coppes/Cottes from London too, but yes, Ryan could be right. Or even Frederick Coppes Ryan London ?? I've checked. There isn't one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Thanks Dai, I downloaded the deaths for a week before and a week after with the first initial F and still nothing matches. Its a mystery wrapped up in an enigma wrapped up in a crossword begor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 3 hours ago, George Rayner said: Ancestry has this... Name: Frederick Ryan Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916 Death Age:23 Registration district: Dublin South Volume:2 Page:568 FHL Film Number:0101606 George You would think this was the Fred Ryan, of the Irish Citizen Army, who was shot in Harcourt Street 27/4/1916, but he was allegedly seventeen. Although, if it isn't, where is his death registration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 In between gardening, cutting foliage and having an oven delivered I have checked under almost every possibility-obviously not the right one as I haven't found him anywhere else!! George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 (edited) Is it Dublin? Final column reads- Nephitis Pneumonia Heart failure Certified ? Looking for letter shape matches George Edited 15 April , 2019 by George Rayner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 (edited) Got him. Frederick William Cottis. Service docs on FMP. Docs state died of nephritis Doctor Stevens Hospital, Dublin at 9.25am 8/3/16. He is Rifle Brigade. Had been invalided back to UK from France https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/364561/cottis,-frederick-william/ Buried in London. Not sure how he ends up in Dublin after returning from France in Feb Edited 15 April , 2019 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Ah, that explains him not being commemorated in RoI which is what I(and perhaps others) were expecting. Lots of soldiers were treated in Ireland having been evacuated from France. After all Ireland was at the time, part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Well done...sorry about red herring of 'Ryan'. Must read 'from London'? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 I haven't got FMP, but there are some 1892 papers on there. Is this him? https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?firstname=william&firstname_variants=true&keywords="royal irish regiment"&lastname=darc*y&sourcecategory=armed forces %26 conflict&sourcecountry=great britain&yearofbirth=1872&yearofbirth_offset=2&keywordsplace=bagnalstown&keywordsplace_proximity=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Sorry lads I just seen the Cottis posts, what a great bit of sleuthing Mark!! Sure what chance did we have? Thanks again for staying with it, I appreciate it very much indeed. Kind regards. Tom. IPT, I think you have hit paydirt, it has to be him. reading his records now. Thanks IPT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 IPT, he was discharged in 1913, feck. I was counting on him being in after August 1914. Thanks for your help! Now the thing is, how did you find him in FMP? I used a link posted in an earlier post and the one I usually use and there was not a sausage but you hit it on the nail, how did you do it? Kind regards and thanks again. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 Bad luck, Tom, although I didn't take him dying in a workhouse as a good sign. Not sure how I found him. I did put a wildcard * between the c and y, so that "Darcey" showed up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 15 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2019 You are a genius IPT, some day with the help of ye all I might master the secret of 'the search'! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 15 April , 2019 Share Posted 15 April , 2019 They say it's a fine line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 16 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 April , 2019 This officer I read as William D'Oyly Battley. Listed in the Census here:- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Delgany/Templecarrig_Lower/892666/ Try as I might I cannot find him anywhere at all. Can you help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 16 April , 2019 Share Posted 16 April , 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, museumtom said: This officer I read as William D'Oyly Battley. Listed in the Census here:- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Delgany/Templecarrig_Lower/892666/ Try as I might I cannot find him anywhere at all. Can you help please? This man ?https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/155492432/william-d'oyly-battley Retired 1911, apparently. Craig Edited 16 April , 2019 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 16 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 April , 2019 Good on ya Craig, Y'know I could not find anything on him. He left the army in 1911, so we will have to leave him be. Thanks for your help, you found him so quickly too! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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