PaulC78 Posted 6 April , 2021 Share Posted 6 April , 2021 1 hour ago, museumtom said: If you mean William Barrett, 24654. He was put forward to the 'In From The Cold Project' on 24/09/2020 and was not accepted due to lack of records. I can't think why, unless I managed to find something that had been missed previously. In any case, he is now in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 6 April , 2021 Here are the cases 'In the system'. He is there all right, his records must have been found since 24/09/2020. https://infromthecold.proboards.com/thread/2458/ifcp-cases-awaiting-adjudication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 August , 2021 Author Share Posted 10 August , 2021 OK guys and gals I hope all are well during these strange times. Myself and George Rayner have different opinions whether these two soldiers are one and the same man. Can you help please? Here is all the info we have found. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/750569/JOHN GALBRAITH/ https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/750568/JOHN GALBRAITH/ Galbraith , John . (Donegal). Rank- Private . Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers . Unit: 11th Battalion . Ser No: 14463 . Date of death: 01/07/1916 . Age: . Born: Binion, County Donegal . Enlisted: Londonderry . Residence: . Death: Killed in action . Next of kin, etc: . Newspapers/Books etc: *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Notes- . Grave/Memorial: Pier and Face 4 D and 5 B. . Cemetery: Thiepval Memorial, France. . Galbraith , John . (Donegal). Rank- Private . Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers . Unit: 11th Battalion . Ser No: 15245 . Date of death: 01/07/1916 . Age: 21 . Born: Drumcrow, County Donegal . Enlisted: Raphoe, County Donegal . Residence: . Death: Killed in action . Next of kin, etc: Son of Andrew and Elizabeth Galbraith, of Carrickadawson, Raphoe, County Donegal . Newspapers/Books etc: *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Notes- . Grave/Memorial: Pier and Face 4 D and 5 B. . Cemetery: Thiepval Memorial, France. . http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Feddyglass/Carrickadawson/506116/ Census for 14463 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/St__Johnstown/Kinnacally/506744/ . CWGC-NA has two separate medal cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 10 August , 2021 Share Posted 10 August , 2021 Tom, the 14463 guy was 30 years old Dave From BNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 10 August , 2021 Share Posted 10 August , 2021 (edited) GALBRAITH, John From the Pension Index Cards above with different references = being paid out to: 14463 = his Widow & five children and 15245 = his Mother [and Father - from another card in 1943] Rather unusual for a one soldier :-) M Edited 10 August , 2021 by Matlock1418 addit details re: father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 August , 2021 Author Share Posted 10 August , 2021 He is a tricky one or two to be sure. Maybe they are two people? Thank you David and Matlock, your input and newspaper article is very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 10 August , 2021 Share Posted 10 August , 2021 There's nothing in any of the documentation that contradicts there being one, nor two John Galbraiths. So, to further muddy the waters, I'll add three birth certificates from the Strabane district between 1885 and 1900. Do they help or hinder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 11 August , 2021 Author Share Posted 11 August , 2021 Thank you Dai, does it help? Beats the 'eck outta me I am afraid. Thank you for looking up these old buddy! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 11 August , 2021 Share Posted 11 August , 2021 18 minutes ago, museumtom said: Thank you Dai, does it help? Beats the 'eck outta me I am afraid. Thank you for looking up these old buddy! Kind regards. Tom. Different men, I'd say. The effects records have two different entries, one for each number, so they had received 2 separate notifications from the record office that a man had died. Unlike the pension records there could not be multiple separate gratuity claims for the same person. The monies/gratuity was paid out on different dates so each case would have been checked individually by the paymaster and notified to the effects on two different occasions. You'd be looking at multiple repeat mistakes over a period of several years (if they were the man). Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 11 August , 2021 Share Posted 11 August , 2021 I'd also say they were different men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterfield Posted 11 August , 2021 Share Posted 11 August , 2021 The Donegal museum has John Galbraith, and John Jack Galbraith on a facebook posting. https://ar-ar.facebook.com/Donegalcomuseum/posts/today-on-the-104th-anniversary-of-the-battle-of-the-somme-we-remember-those-men-/3056593601055776/ Along with a book they have researched. https://www.donegalcoco.ie/culture/countymuseum/county donegal book of honour/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 11 August , 2021 Author Share Posted 11 August , 2021 Thank you kindly Craig, Buster and Dai. It does look like they are two separate men. Your help is very much appreciated, thank you. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 17 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2022 Hello again all! Myself and George are reviewing possible soldiers who are missed from the 26 county archive. We are absolutely stuck with these two. I am looking for an Irish connection but try as we might we cannot nail them down, can you help please? Colchester Cemetery, United Kingdom. P 7 28. Son of Edward Edward Clancy. Died from Influenza. Added by IFCP Volunteer David Milborrow. CLANCY, James Private 40210 2 Bn, Leinster Regiment Died 14.03.20 Age 19 Commemorated: United Kingdom Book of Remembrance. A wild guess might be this lad, but again no proof it is him. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Cadamstown/Cadamstown/541443/ Second unfindable is- Added to the CWGC on 16/06/2012. Rfn John RYAN6985 2nd Bn, Royal Irish RiflesDied 27.10.14 Age 32Commemorated: France (1914-1918) Memorial https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/75451491/john-redmond/ https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/75230266/john-ryan/ He served as John Ryan it seems and I cannot find any NOK details, can you help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 17 January , 2022 Share Posted 17 January , 2022 (edited) I don't know if you have already seen the Registers of Soldiers' Effects. The gratuity went to a brother, James Redmond and a sister, Mrs Lizzie Kerr. RM Edited 17 January , 2022 by rolt968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 17 January , 2022 Share Posted 17 January , 2022 10 minutes ago, museumtom said: Colchester Cemetery, United Kingdom. P 7 28. Son of Edward Edward Clancy. Died from Influenza. Added by IFCP Volunteer David Milborrow. CLANCY, James Private 40210 2 Bn, Leinster Regiment Died 14.03.20 Age 19 Commemorated: United Kingdom Book of Remembrance. A wild guess might be this lad, but again no proof it is him. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Cadamstown/Cadamstown/541443/ Not much, but you can say he enlisted on 25 Feb 1920 or shortly before. #40211 - M Casey - enlisted 25 February 1920 Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 17 January , 2022 Share Posted 17 January , 2022 Ryan effects register. Brother James. Sister Lizzie and another called Sarah https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60506/images/42511_6117462_0226-00053?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=cfefaeaca2caf64e223ad2d3dca5d6a9&usePUB=true&_phsrc=lWR36&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=154700 The monies weren't claimed immediately as they had trouble tracking down relatives - the roman numerals are the number of the unpublished effects list he was shown in. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 17 January , 2022 Share Posted 17 January , 2022 1 minute ago, ss002d6252 said: Ryan effects register. Brother James. Sister Lizzie and another called Sarah https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60506/images/42511_6117462_0226-00053?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=cfefaeaca2caf64e223ad2d3dca5d6a9&usePUB=true&_phsrc=lWR36&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=154700 Craig Well noticed, Craig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 17 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2022 Lovely finds, thank you Rolt and Craig every scrap helps. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 17 January , 2022 Share Posted 17 January , 2022 3 hours ago, rolt968 said: Brother James. Sister Lizzie and another called Sarah Can anybody find a 'Lizzie' Redmond/Ryan who married a Kerr? Jiggered if I can... Or a census return for a John, James, 'Lizzie' and Sarah anywhere... George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 17 January , 2022 Share Posted 17 January , 2022 6 minutes ago, George Rayner said: Can anybody find a 'Lizzie' Redmond/Ryan who married a Kerr? Jiggered if I can... Or a census return for a John, James, 'Lizzie' and Sarah anywhere... George This possible one in 1908. Assuming Lizzie is just short for Elizabeth, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 17 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2022 Thank you George and Craig. I searched for the Kerr wedding here in Ireland without success. I love the lateral thinking just the same lads, well done. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 19 January , 2022 Share Posted 19 January , 2022 I am at a loss with these two... George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 January , 2022 Share Posted 19 January , 2022 (edited) On 17/01/2022 at 11:32, museumtom said: A wild guess might be this lad, but again no proof it is him. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Cadamstown/Cadamstown/541443/ This Clancy lad seems to be this RAF chap Born 23/2/01 (Birth cert says 21/2/01) and father Edward. RAF Sep 1918 to Mar 1919 then to Reserve. Does not positively exclude him. Nothing on RAF record indicates subsequent enlistment in the Leinsters. Trees on Ancestry show a family of 10 children of which only he and Michael (b1903) are shown with DoD unknown. Edited 19 January , 2022 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 19 January , 2022 Thank you kindly Mark, alas I am Ancestrically challenged. Is there any address or birth location in the record please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 19 January , 2022 Share Posted 19 January , 2022 2 minutes ago, museumtom said: Thank you kindly Mark, alas I am Ancestrically challenged. Is there any address or birth location in the record please? The record is also on FMP, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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