museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Excellent finds Mark. I was hoping something could have been found on this lad as he just might be related to me. I will follow him up later as I have to bring herself for a hospital appointment which is a long drive there and back, but we will get there. Thanks again for this, an exciting find. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Mark, are you sure he was in the RIRegt before the RGA and Labour Corps?, age and birth location differ. RIRegt aged 18 in 1892. Born Galway. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007273287%2f00441&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7273287%2f50%2f441 RGA aged 34 in 1912. Born Cork. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007273392%2f00710&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7273392%2f66%2f710 Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Getting nowhere with Victor Vine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 It was worth a shot Mark. Melody, RGA, in his enlistment document says he had no previous military service. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Before I head off for the afternoon, I will post the last, final list of D.C.s', if I may please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Apologies Mark, I found this and it shows it is the same lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Yes that is where I picked up the connection. In 1912 he claimed to be a lot younger than he actually was. 34 instead of 38/9. Or he could have enlisted in 1892 at an age younger than he wasPossibly to get accepted. So saying born in Cork might have been a convenient way to prevent the connection being made. Obviously later it became in his interests to declare the previous service Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 I agree the records seem to bear it out. Thanks Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) This would be his brother James Melody from Loughrea https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F5498%2F171%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F5498%2F960717 He is referred to as being in Malta by the Thomas records and this fits in. ...and this may be him deserting in 1916 https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FPOLICEGAZETTE%2F07_NOVEMBER_1916%2FIMAGE05&parentid=GBM%2FPOLICEGAZETTE%2F001627 Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 A great find mark, and it agrees with James' records, with his pre war service in the Connaught Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Alas I have to head off for the afternoon. Keep the faith lads and lassies and be on your best behaviour! Kind regards and thanks again. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Ah well. Onwards.... George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 James Murphy. This is for 25 Harbour View, Age sugest born 1891 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Queenstown_No__2_Urban/Harbour_View/406990/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Thomas is 36870 East Surrey Regiment. 27 Queen St is the first address on a WFA card. Claim form sister Nora (who is shown as present at the death) https://www.fold3.com/image/645810918 This card and this other one give DoD as 18/7/21. Gives cause of death as Septic Perotinitis https://www.fold3.com/image/645066363 The second card says GSW right leg There is a third giving Nora's details https://www.fold3.com/image/669323164 Given the eventual cause of death I think we must be in with a chance for Thomas. See also https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FSILVERWAR%2FBADGES%2F267307 and https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/MH106/P2/381550 Admitted 28 Gen Hospital with the wound. Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Stephen O'Callaghan or Callaghan 302613 Tank Corps. Dependent claim from mother Mary - 63 Evergreen St, Cork https://www.fold3.com/image/668389409 Another card https://www.fold3.com/image/645810875 Both have correct DoD. https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FSILVERWAR%2FBADGES%2F688083 Discharged July 1918 Previous 3914 RMF. To France 12/9/14 Nothing says cause of discharge.SWB roll does not specify wounds or sickness. But was unfit Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Timothy O'Leary is 6835S RNR. Discharged 14/1/18. Widow Mary K. Stoker https://www.fold3.com/image/669348110 https://www.fold3.com/image/645238492 One card gives his ship as HMS Duke Of Edinburgh, - presumably at end of service Struggling to find other refs. Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) John Murray is RNR TS1178. Trimmer https://www.fold3.com/image/643056259 Is a ledger of naval personnel where "death is attributable to warlike operations" Shows same dat of death. Married Haanah E in St Lukes, Grimsby on 15/5/15 He is buried in Grimsby https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/380444/murray,-john/ This record here confirms that 1178 is the man on the death certifcate you posted. Another record indicates born Hull 31/3/1885 Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Frank Murney (I think that is right name) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Queenstown_No__2_Urban/Clifton_Place/406736/ Address and mother's name correct. DoB some years out Apart from someone in the South African Constabulary during the Boer War I cannot find any service record for that name. Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Patrick Dahill's death on 1/10/1921 is outside of the CWGC cut off point for WW1 deaths. Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Hi All Tom, Mark have you seen this Frank Nurney https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2534&h=5319483&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=iyp1040&_phstart=successSource Death cert. The transcription looks to be correct to me. Looking at the original and comparing the capital 'M' s ???? Regards Barry Edited 19 February , 2020 by The Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 (edited) Thanks Barry. Will look again later just in case I have made a mistake. Won't be the first or last time. Edit Looking at the original of the census return http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001910643/ This seems to say Nurney. So Barry seems to have spotted the correct death reg. So wonder if this is his record though DoB is several years out here and this maybe his China Medal 1900 here and this the relevant 1901 return http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Queenstown_Urban/Bishop_Street/1163080/ missing him Suffice it to say no evidence of relevant WW1 service Edited 19 February , 2020 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 4 hours ago, Mark1959 said: Thomas is 36870 East Surrey Regiment. 27 Queen St is the first address on a WFA card. Claim form sister Nora (who is shown as present at the death) https://www.fold3.com/image/645810918 This card and this other one give DoD as 18/7/21. Gives cause of death as Septic Perotinitis https://www.fold3.com/image/645066363 The second card says GSW right leg There is a third giving Nora's details https://www.fold3.com/image/669323164 Given the eventual cause of death I think we must be in with a chance for Thomas. See also https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FSILVERWAR%2FBADGES%2F267307 and https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/MH106/P2/381550 Admitted 28 Gen Hospital with the wound. Sent to Terry just now, Thanks Mark!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Thank you Inspector and Mark, marvellous finds indeed, I am just i the door and am snowed under with great replies, thank lads. It will take a bit of time to get through these. I do apologise I dont have access to Ancestry if you could possible gibe me Units and number I would ve most grateful and look in FMP for them. These are the last certs for a while I reckon. Keep up the great work!! Kindest regards and thank you all very much yet again. I'll let ye know as soon as I here on Murphy. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 19 February , 2020 Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Hi Tom, Mark and all, The link to the China medal has additional details ie. No. 165738 HMS Esk, Rating AB, DD (Deceased) 6 Oct 14 Medal sent to father Francis Nurney 30 Dec, 1914. Regards Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2020 Reply regarding Murphy-'We would need his full pension record here to make any link'. So there it rests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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