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museumtom

Excellent finds Mark. I was hoping something could have been found on this lad as he just might be related to me. I will follow him up later as I have to bring herself for a hospital appointment which is a long drive there and back, but we will get there.

Thanks again for this, an exciting find.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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museumtom

Mark, are you sure he was in the RIRegt before the RGA and Labour Corps?, age and birth location differ.

RIRegt aged 18 in 1892. Born Galway.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007273287%2f00441&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7273287%2f50%2f441

RGA aged 34 in 1912. Born Cork.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007273392%2f00710&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7273392%2f66%2f710

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Mark1959

Getting nowhere with Victor Vine

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museumtom

It was worth a shot Mark. 

Melody, RGA, in his enlistment document says he had no previous military service.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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museumtom

Before I head off for the afternoon, I will post the last, final list of D.C.s', if I may please.

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museumtom

Apologies Mark, I found this and it shows it is the same lad.

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Mark1959

Yes that is where I picked up the connection. In 1912 he claimed to be a lot younger than he actually was. 34 instead of 38/9. Or he could have enlisted in 1892 at an age younger than he wasPossibly to get accepted. So saying born in Cork might have been a convenient way to prevent the connection being made. Obviously later it became in his interests to declare the previous service

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museumtom

I agree the records seem to bear it out.

 Thanks Mark.

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Mark1959

This would be his brother James Melody from Loughrea

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F5498%2F171%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F5498%2F960717

He is referred to as being in Malta by the Thomas records and this fits in.

...and this may be him deserting in 1916 

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FPOLICEGAZETTE%2F07_NOVEMBER_1916%2FIMAGE05&parentid=GBM%2FPOLICEGAZETTE%2F001627

 

 

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museumtom

A great find mark, and it agrees with James' records, with his pre war service in the Connaught Rangers.

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museumtom

Alas I have to head off for the afternoon.

Keep the faith lads and lassies and be on your best behaviour!

Kind regards and thanks again.

 Tom.

 

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George Rayner

Ah well. Onwards....

 

George

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Mark1959

Thomas is 36870 East Surrey Regiment. 27 Queen St is the first address on a WFA card. Claim form sister Nora (who is shown as present at the death)

https://www.fold3.com/image/645810918

This card and this other one give DoD as 18/7/21. Gives cause of death as Septic Perotinitis 

https://www.fold3.com/image/645066363

The second card says GSW right leg

There is a third giving Nora's details

https://www.fold3.com/image/669323164

Given the eventual cause of death I think we must be in with a chance for Thomas. 

See also

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FSILVERWAR%2FBADGES%2F267307

and

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/MH106/P2/381550

Admitted 28 Gen Hospital with the wound. 

 

 

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Mark1959

Stephen O'Callaghan or Callaghan 302613 Tank Corps. Dependent claim from mother Mary - 63 Evergreen St, Cork

https://www.fold3.com/image/668389409

Another card

https://www.fold3.com/image/645810875

Both have correct DoD.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FSILVERWAR%2FBADGES%2F688083

Discharged July 1918

Previous 3914 RMF. To France 12/9/14

Nothing says cause of discharge.SWB roll does not specify wounds or sickness. But was unfit

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Mark1959

John Murray is RNR TS1178. Trimmer

https://www.fold3.com/image/643056259

Is a ledger of naval personnel where "death is attributable to warlike operations"

Shows same dat of death. Married Haanah E in St Lukes, Grimsby on 15/5/15

He is buried in Grimsby

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/380444/murray,-john/

This record here confirms that 1178 is the man on the death certifcate you posted. Another record indicates born Hull 31/3/1885

 

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Mark1959

Frank Murney (I think that is right name)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Queenstown_No__2_Urban/Clifton_Place/406736/

Address and mother's name correct. DoB some years out

Apart from someone in the South African Constabulary during the Boer War I cannot find any service record for that name.

 

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Mark1959

Patrick Dahill's death on 1/10/1921 is outside of the CWGC cut off point for WW1 deaths. 

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The Inspector

Hi All

Tom, Mark have you seen this Frank Nurney

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2534&h=5319483&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=iyp1040&_phstart=successSource Death cert. The transcription looks to be correct to me. Looking at the original and comparing the capital 'M' s  ????

Regards Barry

 

 

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Mark1959

Thanks Barry. Will look again later just in case I have made a mistake. Won't be the first or last time.

Edit

Looking at the original of the census return

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001910643/

This seems to say Nurney. So Barry seems to have spotted the correct death reg.

So wonder if this is his record though DoB is several years out

here

and this maybe his China Medal 1900 here

and this the relevant 1901 return

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Queenstown_Urban/Bishop_Street/1163080/ missing him

Suffice it to say no evidence of relevant WW1 service

 

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museumtom
4 hours ago, Mark1959 said:

Thomas is 36870 East Surrey Regiment. 27 Queen St is the first address on a WFA card. Claim form sister Nora (who is shown as present at the death)

https://www.fold3.com/image/645810918

This card and this other one give DoD as 18/7/21. Gives cause of death as Septic Perotinitis 

https://www.fold3.com/image/645066363

The second card says GSW right leg

There is a third giving Nora's details

https://www.fold3.com/image/669323164

Given the eventual cause of death I think we must be in with a chance for Thomas. 

See also

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FSILVERWAR%2FBADGES%2F267307

and

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/MH106/P2/381550

Admitted 28 Gen Hospital with the wound. 

 

 

Sent to Terry just now, Thanks Mark!!

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museumtom

Thank you Inspector and Mark, marvellous finds indeed, I am just i the door and am snowed under with great replies, thank lads.

It will take a bit of time to get through these. I do apologise I dont have access to Ancestry if you could possible gibe me Units and number I would ve most grateful and look in FMP for them.

These are the last certs for a while I reckon.

Keep up the great work!!

Kindest regards and thank you all very much yet again.

I'll let ye know as soon as I here on Murphy.

 Tom.

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The Inspector

Hi Tom, Mark and all,

The link to the China medal has additional details ie. No. 165738 HMS Esk,  Rating AB,  DD (Deceased) 6 Oct 14 Medal sent to father Francis Nurney  30 Dec, 1914. 

Regards Barry

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museumtom

Reply regarding Murphy-'We would need his full pension record here to make any link'.

So there it rests.

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