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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
5 minutes ago, Mark1959 said:

Do you think this is Flanagan?

Wife's name is a problem but Birr.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Birr_Rural/Barrack_St_/550978/

Describes himself as a Private Soldier.

And the death certificate states that the man in Post #285 was an Army Pensioner at the time of his death.

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Mark1959

Crinkle/Crinkill Barracks (Birr) was Leinster Regiment's Barracks. As Dai has picked up his potential brother John as a Leinster,  I think we are looking for a pre-WW1 Leinster man. 

At the moment I can find no military record for him.

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museumtom

Thanks Lads, I think you could be right, Pensioned off before the war.

 Kind regards and thank you for all your help.

Tom.

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little bob

Find my Past has a record for  Pte. 620 Augustine Flanagan attesting on 23rd April 1889 in the 3rd Battalion Leinster Regiment aged 14 years, 5 months. This next bit doesn't fit. In which Country were you born, Jersey. The next few questions fit In which Parish do you reside?  Birr. Near the town of Birr  in Kings county.

 

Bob

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museumtom

Thanks Bob. Crinkle is beside Birr, and used to have a barracks. There is a military cemetery there too. I could not find a birth cert for him so he could have been born in Jersey.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Unfortunately, the only Jersey Birth Indexes I can see are for C of E. (Although I don't have a sub for them!).

It says that RC entries are in the Jersey Archives.

But there's a couple of (?probably unrelated) Flanagans in there.

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museumtom

Thanks for trying Dai. It is very much appreciated. I now have to move along to the next mystery. Fingers on buzzers! Your starter for ten.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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museumtom

I downloaded the CWGC from 04/08/1914 to 23/04/1915 with the first initial of his second name and nothing fits, I cannot find him.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

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PrivateJENNER, G H

Service Number 8817

Died 24/10/1914

2nd Bn.
York and Lancaster Regiment

 

 

On the DC, the Registrar uses the same capital letter in Jenner, George and Gastritis !

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museumtom

Thanks for all the links lads, and lassies, great sleuthing on all counts. With all your help I found him.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/197670/jenner,-/

 

That was tricky but well done to everyone, your help is very much appreciated. Fantastic, another missing man for my files.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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ss002d6252
2 minutes ago, museumtom said:

Thanks for all the links lads, and lassies, great sleuthing on all counts. With all your help I found him.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/197670/jenner,-/

 

That was tricky but well done to everyone, your help is very much appreciated. Fantastic, another missing man for my files.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

Keep 'em coming Tom

 

Craig

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museumtom

Thanks Craig, ye are creating a monster!, I am looking at his records on FMP. It does not get much better than this.

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museumtom

Sorry to post an rush off but I have to head for Kilkenny. This man looks easy but nope, not a chance, can you help please?

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Pension record for 4999 on Ancestry:

Link

 

Next of Kin: Patrick Griffin, Mary Griffin, Kilmovan ?, County Mayo.

 

Discharged 26/7/1915 Para 392 (XVI KR) No longer physically fit for war service.

 12)a) Cause of disability - 'Phthisis'

b) "The phthisis pre-existed [?] & the Bronchitis was helped by the exposure & the  Hardship of Service in the Trenches.

13) Diagnosis verified by laboratory report.

signed FA Jonathan Lt.Col RAMCT President [and others] 25/6/15

 

Approved :"Aggravated considerably by active service". MJ Whitby Lt.Col. Administrative Medical Officer 6 [or 16] /7/15

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George Rayner

There are other Michael Griffins but the one above seems the best fit.

 

George

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
4 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

There are other Michael Griffins but the one above seems the best fit.

 

George

Yes I think so.

4999 was discharged in July 1915 with phthisis, and Tom's man of the same name dies of the same in November.

There is a discrepancy in his age.

He was said to be 30&11 months on attestation in August 1914, so would have been 31&9 months in June 1915 (medical report says 33), and 32&1month in October 1915. His DC states he was 36

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museumtom

Well I have to agreed with you all, it has to be him. Y'know it did'nt phase ye at all. I had no chance with it but its the lateral thinking of you guys and gals hit the jackpot. I would not have found him, and I can only bow to your experience and ability. Thanks to all concerned, Dai, Craig and George. Brilliant stuff.

Kind regards, and thanks again!

 Tom.

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museumtom

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water!

Did this guy serve in the war please? I cannot find an MIC for him.

Kind regards, and thank you very much in advance.

 

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Killare/Clonboy_or_Ballinacor/883568/

 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Can't make this writing out Tom.

Does it say Colonel, 3rd North Staffordshires ?

(Congestion of Spine sounds a bit  'made up'!).

 

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5 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said:

 

Does it say Colonel, 3rd North Staffordshires ?

 

That's how I read it.


Craig

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