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2 hours ago, museumtom said:

This lad could be in the Merchant navy, can you help please?

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Served on the SS St Mirren pre war?

 

1.  1914 Crew List:

https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/641679.html

 

2. 1915 Crew List:

https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/641681.html

 

01 January 1915 - 30 June 1915:

https://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/document/185287

 

Here, for future reference, Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from 1915:

https://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/#home

 

JP

 

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What a great find JP, thank you very much indeed! All links have been saved.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Pension record on Fold 3 for John James REGAN died 5/4/15. Discharged 13 March 1915,  Chronic Intestinal Nephritis.

 

Bob

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The important thing about one Regan fold3 record

https://www.fold3.com/image/643058658?xid=1022

is it has as a header "Naval Pensions to Widows of Men whose death is attributable to warlike operations"

The other card is

https://www.fold3.com/image/669476358?xid=1022 - widow and children's details

Can find his naval record on ancestry but not on FMP

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Find my Past records for Royal Naval Seaman only starts  in 1899. So any seaman who enlisted before 1899 will not show up.

 

Bob

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Fantastic finds Mark, with your urls he now has a 50-50 chance. Bob also sent me some info, thank you Bob. All has been sent on to Terry.

 What a team!!

Fingers crossed!

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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2 hours ago, little bob said:

Pension record on Fold 3 for John James REGAN died 5/4/15. Discharged 13 March 1915,  Chronic Intestinal Nephritis.

 

Bob

I haven't seen the record, but it should be "Interstitial" not "Intestinal".

It's a kidney disease, not a bowel disease.

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That helps a great deal, yes indeed Brights Disease is a kidney problem, thank you Dai and Bob!.

 

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1 hour ago, little bob said:

Would that be Brights Disease ?

 

Bob

Not exactly synonymous, but both are kidney diseases.

Bright's disease was described in the days before fancy renal function tests, but described signs like protein or blood in the urine with peripheral fluid retention.

Specific inflammation of different parts of the kidney, like the glomerular apparatus, or the interstitial tissue surrounding it, has a specific appearance on microscopy, so they get labelled as glomerulonephritis or interstitial nephritis.

The end result will be similar, a degree of renal failure.

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In the back of the net lads!!! he's in!!.

 Terry says (and we knew this thanks to Bob and Dai-"He will fly as Bright’s disease is same as nephritis"

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Fold 3 has a pension record for 1648 Royal Munster Fusiliers John Crean  died 5/9/1915.  Find my Past has a service record for 1648 John Crean, attested 4 August 1885 discharged 23 November 1906  a service of 21 years and.112 days. Served in Burma and South Africa. Ended his service as Colour Sergeant. Wonder if he was related to Tom Crean?

 

Bob.

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Fantastic finds Bob, thank you very much indeed, if he is in folder three does that mean he died during service please?

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Sorry Bob I do not know if he is related to Tom Crean.

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Unable to help, unwilling to pay the extra for Fold3. I'm sure someone will be along soon. Can't find anything relating to service during the war.

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Thank you Bob, fingers crossed.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Bob I sent what you found anyway, perhaps Terry might be able to help with his team.

Fingers crossed!

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Terry says.

No evidence. Nothing on pension card (and the pension was refused)

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Yes indeed, he was a War Clerk, that's good enough for me. I will save him with the others anyway.

 Thanks again Bob!

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Hi

You say "His sister's BC" shown above ?? Marriage Cert ! 

Cyril Joseph Herbert  MIC Sjt 33488 Bedfordshire Regt, 2nd Lt. Leins. Regt.  K in A 22/23. 3.18. Address on Mic " Father T  Taylor Esq, 21 Bartle Ave., East Ham  E.6."..looking ....... Medal award roll and MIC commissioned 25.9.17. UK soldiers Died in GW and ireland Casualties have wrong date of 13th March.

1911 census the family is at 58 Poulett Road, East Ham, London. Cyril  (Transcribed as CYR I E L)  Herbert TAYLOR...looking  7 children of marriage only 6 on census , Married 16 yrs so the posted cert. is the right one ?

Father is an  Army Pensioner , a nightwatchman. Children born Burscough, Lancs,Cork, Egypt, Hampshire, Purfleet and Dublin 

Elder brother Sidney John Taylor was L/17631 24th Bn Royal Fus..  K in A 30.9.1918 CWGC

Regards Barry

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