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Excellent research and will add more information to him that I had previously, thank you very much for you help Mark.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Where is the death certificate from? Few possible candidates

My favourite is

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003951810/

He is possibly the man who was born 16/9/1855 Carlingford Lough. Enlisted in RN 1/1/1873. Served until 31/3/1905 when he was pensioned off. Service number 53854. Trying to find RN records on FMP

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Sorry Mark, t is Queenstown (Cobh),  Feck, he was discharged in 1905. Thanks for trying lads I appreciate it.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Any thoughts on what classified P.B. means?

Or 'P.U.'?

 

 

George

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I think this is his first attestation form

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F4888%2F014%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F4888%2F590849

Frohlick

 

May not be...

 

George

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21 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

Any thoughts on what classified P.B. means?

Or 'P.U.'?

 

 

George

Permanent Base - i.e unfit for the front line but can still be used for something else.

I would suspect PU in the case probably means permanently unfit.

 

Odd though that they then say there was no evidence of a disability upon discharge.

 

Craig

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Unfortunate that he died before the medical board filled in his form then if the army had decided that.

Suspect that is not enough evidence for Terry!

 

George

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Thank you everyone for all the links and help. Hopefully some sheet will turn up that helps this poor man go forward. Thanks again everyone, and keep up the good work.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Personally, i think it's this chap, although his date of birth was 19/1/1854;

 

British Medical Journal 1892 - THE NAVY. Surgeon William Hayes has been placed on the retired list, August 3rd. His commission was dated February 26th, 1881. 

 

He was court-martialled aboard HMS Porpoise in 1892 and deprived of his seniority.  He retired (unfit) in August 1892 and appears to receive a pension from then until 7th October 1919.

 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7584788

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7614900 (Wish I could make out the details)

 

1911 census -   http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Queenstown/Brighton_Terrace/405208/

 

HAYES—On Oct. 7th, at Fort Lisle House, Queenstown, Surgeon William Hayes, R.N. (retired), youngest son of the late William Hayes, Esq., of Kilcully House, Co. Cork. Funeral on this day (Thursday), at 11 a.m., for Old Church, Queenstown.

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Great find, thank you IPT. If he retired in 1892 he would not qualify. Great research, thanks ITP.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Captain James  Rafter MC is buried in Liverpool (Ford) Roman Catholic Cemetery and is in the CWGC . Just search under Rafter.

 

Bob

 

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Undoubtedly same man-but why Major/Captain I wonder?

 

George

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Great find Bob, thank you. George I have no idea to be honest.

 Thanks for all the help!!

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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London Gazette.  Lieutenant J F O'Riordan  relinquishes his Commission 2 September 1919. National Archive has a record for 2/Lieutenant  J. O'Riordan Royal Munster Fusiliers.

 

Bob

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Ooh Bob that's very good. Well found. Thank you very much indeed.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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O'Connell

There is this chap

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FC1901%2F9360137

Born 1890-91

He enlists as O'Connell in 1905 claiming to be 17 y and 3 m. But discharged under age in April 1905. KRRC Militia. 

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO96%2F0965%2F225%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO96%2F965%2F1493677

There is a death for George Connell age 27. Registered in Cork in 4Q 1917. Same man?

Cannot make out the address in the image. Is it a Cork newspaper?

Did he use an alias I wonder. I cannot yet find a later record for him under either surname. There is no appropriate record on CWGC of any RMF sergeant or any other rank, with either of the relevant names or a known alias, or with relevant NoK

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Thank you Mark. Try as I might, like yourself I could not find him either for service during the war years. It is a Cork newspaper and the image is what is in the paper. Lots of this faded pages in them for whatever reason. I could not even find a death certificate for him. I had a search through the Cork lads and none used the alias O'Connell. I am surprised you found him pre-war, well done and thank you Mark.

Kind regards. Tom.

 

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This one?

Name: George Connell
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Death Age: 27
Registration district: Cork
Volume: 5
Page: 56
FHL Film Number: 0101607

 

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2534&h=5550659&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy21998&_phstart=successSource

 

George

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Bingo well spotted Bob! On the ball!

 

 

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That could show Mark you could be bang on with your age or born 1890ish in your link.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/North_West_Ward/Waggetts_Lane/1162940/

Mark your record shows him as O';Connell but when you compare it with the Census they are the same lad.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO96%2F0965%2F225%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO96%2F965%2F1493677

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