museumtom Posted 29 October , 2012 Share Posted 29 October , 2012 All I have is Lieutenant Thomas J Curtin, U.S.A.Infantry and he was killed in action. I know there is a Sergeant Thomas J Curtin of New York( Soldiers of the Great War) and I am not sure if it is him. Can anyone help please? Thanking you all kindly in advance. Cheers. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 29 October , 2012 Share Posted 29 October , 2012 Did somebody say New York? I'll happily pitch in assuming my house does not blow away! Let me see what I can find. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 29 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October , 2012 We are all thinking of ye, it is a very troublesome road ahead you have ahead, take care. We are following the storm on the news here in Ireland. According to http://www.genealogybuff.com/misc/ww1/il-ww1-ago-casualties21.htm He was killed in action in October, 1918. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 29 October , 2012 Share Posted 29 October , 2012 I found a man with this name attached with Co. D., 69th Regiment, New York National Guard, who is listed as KIA. Let's see where that leads. EDIT: found a mention that this man was killed in the St. Michel offensive, 1st Sgt. of Company D, and he was killed by a rifle bullet while advancing at the head of his platoon. This was in 'Father Duffy's Story'. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 29 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October , 2012 Thanks Daniel, t I am aware of the Sergeant and he is in the New York papers and also the way he died, perhaps they are one and the same? I really dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 29 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October , 2012 This says he was a Sergeant in may 1918 http://www.genealogybuff.com/misc/ww1/il-ww1-ago-casualties228.htm Perhaps he was promoted just before his death? I stand corrected, he was an American; http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Rathea/Furhane/273523/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 29 October , 2012 Share Posted 29 October , 2012 Ah, well, the search goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 12 November , 2012 Share Posted 12 November , 2012 Found an entry in Official U.S. Bulletin, Issues 402-451, on page 41: Section 1 - October 16, 1918 Sergeants Curtin, Thomas J. Mrs. T. Sheehan. 124 East 98th Street, New York, NY http://books.google....epage&q&f=false Another Thomas Curtin, who also died in October 1918 and was from New York...coincidence? Curtin, Thomas E. 72 James St., Green Island, N. Y. Pvt., Co. E., 312th Inf. Killed in action, October 16, 1918 From: http://www.newhorizo...bany-county.htm Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 12 November , 2012 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2012 Thank you Daniel. I see what you mean. One possibility is that he was a Sergeant when he got wounded in the middle of the year and was then promoted to an officer the same yera and was killed just after. Sound logical? Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 12 November , 2012 Share Posted 12 November , 2012 It's hard to say. I also thought given he was a New York fellow that he would have appeared the Soldiers Died but he doesn't. First time I've seen that, but probably not the last. The latter entry has him in Albany whereas the earlier one has him living in Manhattan, if in fact they are the same man. I'll see what else I can turn up. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Burns Posted 27 November , 2012 Share Posted 27 November , 2012 http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_warsvc_form.shtml The New York Roll of Honor lists him simply as from "New York, NY" Sgt. 1st Class Company Co D 165th Infantry (this is the 69th New York, they became the 165th when they were taken into federal service the 165th was in the Rainbow Division) Killed in Action September 12, 1918 this was during the St. Mihiel Offensive. Hope this helps, Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 27 November , 2012 Author Share Posted 27 November , 2012 Thank you Daniel and Neil, much appreciated. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Burns Posted 28 November , 2012 Share Posted 28 November , 2012 Hi Tom, The 165th was attacking towards the Bois de Thiaucourt on the 12th, the 1st Battalion (which would include Co. D) was the outpost of the regiment and actively patrolled after the objective was gained by early afternoon. This is from the 42nd's Summary of Operations and Americans All- The Story of the Rainbow. Overall the attack was very successful and the 165th doesn't seem to have encountered any heavy resistance. There is no mention I can find of him specifically in Americans All or Story of the Rainbow. Please contact me if you want to request his service card, I can send the request from here in the US and scan it over to you. Don't worry about the $1.00. Just let me know, Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 28 November , 2012 Share Posted 28 November , 2012 Hi Tom, The 165th was attacking towards the Bois de Thiaucourt on the 12th, the 1st Battalion (which would include Co. D) was the outpost of the regiment and actively patrolled after the objective was gained by early afternoon. This is from the 42nd's Summary of Operations and Americans All- The Story of the Rainbow. Overall the attack was very successful and the 165th doesn't seem to have encountered any heavy resistance. There is no mention I can find of him specifically in Americans All or Story of the Rainbow. Please contact me if you want to request his service card, I can send the request from here in the US and scan it over to you. Don't worry about the $1.00. Just let me know, Neil Incredibly, if the NYS Archives don't locate anything, you get your dollar back! Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 28 November , 2012 Author Share Posted 28 November , 2012 Hello Neil. I really do appreciate your generous offer, and if memory serves correctly you have done this for me in the past, thank you again, but this time I would not have you do this. I am really delighted with the information already kindly given above. Aint this forum something else!! Kindest regards. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Burns Posted 28 November , 2012 Share Posted 28 November , 2012 Hi Tom, I will send it out for you anyway, it is the Holiday season after all! Nice to touch base with you again, I very rarely get by here these days. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 28 November , 2012 Author Share Posted 28 November , 2012 Thank you Neil, a gentleman as ever. Very much appreciated. Kind regards. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 28 November , 2012 Share Posted 28 November , 2012 Anything on Cpl John Brady, 111th Infantry, 28th Pennsylvania Division, killed Apremont 5th Oct 1918? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 28 November , 2012 Share Posted 28 November , 2012 article about the death of Sgt Thomas J Curtin : http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1918-10-16/ed-1/seq-10/;words=Thomas+THOMAS+Killed+Action+action+Curtin+killed listed as John J Curtin in this article http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=FB0B13FD3E5D147A93C4A8178BD95F4C8185F9 2 others named Curtin appear to have served with the regiment. Stephen Curtin. Killed July 1918 John Curtin (from the same street as Thomas); appears in a Color Guard for MacArthur, 16th October 1918. He was also in D Company with Thomas J Curtin. http://archive.org/stream/rosterofrainbowd00johnrich/rosterofrainbowd00johnrich_djvu.txt CURTIN, JOHN, Corp., 217 E. 89th St, New York City. CURTIN, THOMAS J., Corp., 124 E. 89th St., New York City. CURTIN, STEPHEN, Pvt., 83 William St, Long Island City, N. Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 29 November , 2012 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2012 Thank you Johnnie, this is most helpful. I still reckon that this may not be him as he is a Sergeant and my man is an officer. If you look at the posts above you will see how we considered him. Having said all that, the jury is still out as to whether he was listed as a sergeant in the paper but was actually an officer. Perhaps when good old Neil obtains the service card these questions will be answered. I very much appreciate you help. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 29 November , 2012 Share Posted 29 November , 2012 in the data listing the men reported (in the papers rather than their date of death?) killed on the 16th October with Lt Harold Fahr KILLED IN ACTION ================ LIEUTENANTS Harold A. Fahr, Philadelphia, Pa. John M Paxton Jr., Trenton, N. J. Richard H. Vaughan, Royersford, Pa. Thomas J. Curtin, New York City. Charles J. Reilly, Baybridge, Ohio. and then compare the newspaper http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84026749/1918-10-16/ed-1/seq-3/;words=1918+Harold+Fahr Curtin and Charles J Reilly are listed as Sgts in the newspaper but Lts in the Genealogy list (with no Sgts listed) then in this papers, the ranks move again http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88084272/1918-10-16/ed-1/seq-2/;words=Harold+Fahr The Richard H Vaughan in the genealogy lists is a Lt but in his DSC citation he is a Sgt http://militarytimes.com/citations-medals-awards/recipient.php?recipientid=15184 http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/1pa/military/ww1/iron-13.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 29 November , 2012 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2012 Good man Johnnie, or should I call you Sherlock. A nice bit of deduction. I think you are on to something there. Many thanks for taking the time and effort to help. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Burns Posted 30 November , 2012 Share Posted 30 November , 2012 Anything on Cpl John Brady, 111th Infantry, 28th Pennsylvania Division, killed Apremont 5th Oct 1918? Sorry missed this the first time around. Soldiers of the World War indicates he was from Philadelphia. The 111th was the 3rd Pennsylvania National Guard Regiment but I can't find a National Guard service card on the Penn Archives site that matches a 'John Brady' with the 3rd PNG around the First World War. He is listed as a Sgt.here: http://www.genealogybuff.com/misc/ww1/il-ww1-ago-casualties46.htm Scroll down the page. Other than that I don't have much to add, I don't have the 28th Division histories and he is not mentioned in the 2d Battalion 111th Regiment history on Google Books. Sorry, Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 30 November , 2012 Share Posted 30 November , 2012 Sorry missed this the first time around. Soldiers of the World War indicates he was from Philadelphia. The 111th was the 3rd Pennsylvania National Guard Regiment but I can't find a National Guard service card on the Penn Archives site that matches a 'John Brady' with the 3rd PNG around the First World War. He is listed as a Sgt.here: http://www.genealogy...asualties46.htm Scroll down the page. Other than that I don't have much to add, I don't have the 28th Division histories and he is not mentioned in the 2d Battalion 111th Regiment history on Google Books. Sorry, Neil Neil Bless you! Not much known about him here he "may have ran away from home". Contradictory evidence when I looked, a John H Brady at Verdun (he had no middle name) and as far as I know he enlisted at Bristol, (a few miles outside Philly) in WW1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Burns Posted 30 November , 2012 Share Posted 30 November , 2012 Neil Bless you! Not much known about him here he "may have ran away from home". Contradictory evidence when I looked, a John H Brady at Verdun (he had no middle name) and as far as I know he enlisted at Bristol, (a few miles outside Philly) in WW1. Hi, Actually Bristol is a much smaller haystack than Philly. Was he born around 1885 from Ireland? If so he is on the 1910 Census living as a boarder the writing is unclear but may have immigrated in 1908 or 1902? Right track? Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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