steven belfast Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 I am trying to do a bit of research on a man who served the entire war as a blacksmith which he was by trade in belfast, would they have been attached to to individual regiments or did they form there own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Hayes Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 There were certainly a great many Farriers/Blacksmiths/Shoeing Smiths in the Army Service Corps and Royal Army Veterinary Corps. What regiment did your man serve in? Sandie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven belfast Posted 12 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 12 October , 2012 I am not sure Sandie, thousands of william kirks on ancestry but will now narrow the search to ASC or RAVC see what that brings up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 The RE also had many blacksmiths. A blacksmith may do many things and quite often never deal with a horse. One of my relatives originally worked as a 'smith for a railway company and served in the RE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 All the 'smiths in the Yeomanry were known (by rank) as Shoeing Smiths and never as Blacksmiths..eg Cpl Shoeing Smith Bloggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven belfast Posted 12 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 12 October , 2012 Think i have found him on ancestry, there is no mention of him being a blacksmith but the dates of birth and the next of kin tie in, he started off in the RIR and after a gun shot wound finished the war in the RDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Hayes Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 Did he live in Kells Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Hayes Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 Rifleman 1715 William Kirk R.I.R. described himself as a 'Labourer' when he enlisted. http://search.ancest...am&ln=Kirk&st=g His father, also William Kirk, was a 'Blacksmith' of Crimea Street, Shankill.http://www.census.na..._Street/151071/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven belfast Posted 12 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 12 October , 2012 Thats him Sandie, think i need to speak to the guy as something doesnt fit, as i got wm sen and wm jnr on the census and covenant at 272 crimea street and a william kirk is on nigles site as a pow from 292 crimea street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Hayes Posted 12 October , 2012 Share Posted 12 October , 2012 There's no mention of this chap being a POW and there's no mention of Crimea Street on his service/pension record. He was in France July 1916 - March 1918. His injuries (GSW shoulder) must have been fairly superficial as he continued with the Royal Irish Rifles in France for another 7 months after the incident. He didn't join the Royal Defence Corps until September 1918. He had no time to be a POW! I used his date of birth for the search of the census.The family were at 4 Abbey Street West (Duncairn Ward, Antrim) in 1901 and 97 Crimea Street, Shankill in 1911. When William Jnr enlisted the family had moved to 8 Kells Street, they were still at the address when he was transferred to the reserves in 1919. Sandie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven belfast Posted 13 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 13 October , 2012 I got them on the ulster covenant on line in 1912 at Crimea Street which is were that would fit in, so they have moved house from 1911 to 1912 and then moved again from 1914 onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Hayes Posted 13 October , 2012 Share Posted 13 October , 2012 I never knew the Ulster Covenant was searchable, thanks for that little bit of info. Yes, it looks like the family moved from 97 Crimea Street to No 272 between 1911 and 1912. The Roy family and an Englishman, Samuel Craig, were living in No 97 when they signed the Covenant. There is no record for No 292. The Kirk family had moved to 8 Kells Street by 1916.This kind of movement was common in families living in rented property. Sandie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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