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Not a 1917 but a rare Pattern ' 1918 ' Remington bayonet


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Cheers, for that info Chris, had a funny feeling that the Indian forces would have had their SMLEs (in 1 form or another) long after us Brits.

Anyway to bring this back in line, altho not wanting to expand the collection into another country, I came across/bought a M1917 the other day & not sure if it was the fact that new brit (& now turk variations) bayonets are becoming harder to find to fill the gaps or that I just have a serious addiction to these pesky pointy things.

So was just about to clean it up & thought havent got any pics of it with its cousins....DSCN6051_zps31a0321f.jpgDSCN6060_zpsdefd572f.jpg

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Aleck, nice condition and original finish on the M1917's - but a real shame about that chrome makeover on the Winchester, they are getting really hard to find now in original.

Cheers, S>S

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S/S,

Thats just the way it was when I found it mate, was after an original 1 but figured maybe it had been chromed for ceremonial purposes, either way it stays where it is for now.

Pic not the best but the far left or bottom bayonet (depending on which pic you look at) is a 1918 marked M1917, just to bring it back in line with original posting.

Aleck

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Pic not the best but the far left or bottom bayonet (depending on which pic you look at) is a 1918 marked M1917, just to bring it back in line with original posting.

Aleck

Aleck,

Nice example of the hard to find Remington ' 1918 ' error bayonet.

Regards,

LF

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Hi Mattybutch27

 

Those are a slightly different type to the others in this thread.

They are British Pattern 1907 Bayonets, the standard British rifle bayonet of the Great War used on the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield rifles. They continued in use throughout the second world war too.

If you search or browse the forum for P1907 or 1907 Bayonet you will find them discussed ad infinitum.

 

One of yours is less common than the other in that it was produced under contract in the US -- that is the REMINGTON marked bayonet

The other was produced in the UK by Wilkinson.  This bayonet is dated March 1916 (3 '16) while the Remington one is dated Nov 1915 (11 '15 - at least I think it is 15 bit hard to see). The other markings are standard inspection stamps and a bend test conducted during production.

 

They look to be in very nice shape, the scabbards in particular look good and appear to be in the original brown colour (many are black)

Hope this helps,

Chris

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On 07/07/2017 at 13:59, 4thGordons said:

Hi Mattybutch27

 

Those are a slightly different type to the others in this thread.

They are British Pattern 1907 Bayonets, the standard British rifle bayonet of the Great War used on the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield rifles. They continued in use throughout the second world war too.

If you search or browse the forum for P1907 or 1907 Bayonet you will find them discussed ad infinitum.

 

One of yours is less common than the other in that it was produced under contract in the US -- that is the REMINGTON marked bayonet

The other was produced in the UK by Wilkinson.  This bayonet is dated March 1916 (3 '16) while the Remington one is dated Nov 1915 (11 '15 - at least I think it is 15 bit hard to see). The other markings are standard inspection stamps and a bend test conducted during production.

 

They look to be in very nice shape, the scabbards in particular look good and appear to be in the original brown colour (many are black)

Hope this helps,

Chris

thanks chris 

its very helpful and yes the Remington is 1915.

regards matt 

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Another Remington 1918 Bayonet I photographed last week in a store room in Clonmel Co Tipperary

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'Don'...  What you show is a standard US Model 1917 bayonet manufactured by Remington, which has been mistamped. At the start of 1918, for some reason ( and Remington do not know why ) someone decided to change the Model designation = 1917.. to 1918... thinking that 1917 was actually the year of manufacture. Once the mistake had been noticed, it was very quickly rectified, with the return to the '1917' model designation. They are not all that rare, with my own collection containing '9' examples. These '1918's' fetch a very similar price to the standard '1917's', with pricing here in the UK ( depending upon overall condition and mark of scabbard, with the US mark.1 scabbard demanding the higher price ) being between £70 to £150. Winchester M17 examples fetch approx 10% higher.

 

 

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On 29/09/2012 at 18:49, 4thGordons said:

For some reason I thought the 1918 dated Remingtons were actually US M1917 bayonets incorrectly stamped,

Your correct in your thinking. The Remington '1918's are simply Model 1917's mistamped.

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