madman Posted 22 September , 2012 Share Posted 22 September , 2012 Hi all details on lsgc 20580 pte a w piggott loyal north lancashire regiment any help greatly appreciated want to know if he served in ww1 Cheers nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 22 September , 2012 Share Posted 22 September , 2012 Hi Nathan, 20580 Alfred Walter Piggott has service papers which show he enlisted, aged 49, 10th April 1915. He had substantial previous military experience and was immediately made a colour sergeant. He was appointed SQMS 24/6/1918. He seems to have served at home but then volunteered for service with the army of occupation for one year from 24/4/1919. He had originally enlisted in the East Yorks in 1883, and the Royal Garrison Regiment in 1901. He has 31 pages of papers on Ancestry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 23 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Cheers ipt much appreciated unable to find a medal card for this chap is it possible he doesnt have one ? Maybe no averseas service to qualify for anythin cheers best regards nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 23 September , 2012 Share Posted 23 September , 2012 His previous service may well be available on FindMyPast. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 23 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Cheers kieth but unfortunatly i dont have access to find my past Nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 23 September , 2012 Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Searching FindMyPast is free and you can purchase credits to view records, you don't have to subscribe. I have a look however and I can't see anything obvious for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 23 September , 2012 Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Many of his previous service papers are included in his ww1 service file. That may be why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 23 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Which site as the info i require then chaps ancest or find my past cus will either subscribe or buy credits Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksimpson Posted 23 September , 2012 Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Hi It looks like Ancestry is the way to go, you can purchase a months subscription, then cancel it before it renews. No overseas service, then no MIC. WHen you look at his records, make sure you go both ways, it looks like a lot of his records are back from the page that comes up, including previous service number. regards Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 23 September , 2012 Share Posted 23 September , 2012 He was an army pay/pensions clerk at Preston from 1915 to 1919. He died in 1948, aged 82, and is recorded as army records clerk (retired). (I wonder how much of his work i've sifted through on Ancestry!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 23 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Cheers robert and ipt i will gt subscribed on the monday and see wat can be unearthed best regards Nathan Also out of curiosity . At the risk of askin a dumb question what was the role of army records clerk Cheers again Nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullybrone Posted 23 September , 2012 Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Nathan, Before you subscribe to ancestry try your local library. Most have the Ancestry "library edition" within their local/family history resources available online...........and it is free. It has all the usual WW1 sources & census etc (and more). Steve Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 23 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2012 Cheers steve y Also another quick question was the different variants on the george v lsgc because iv seen wer the monorchs body goes right to the bottom edge of the medal wer as mine does not and as b m on the arm pit of the monorch if that makes sense Cheers again Nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 25 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2012 Quick question . Got ancestry and have had a look over this mans records wat puzzles me is that on his lsgc medal his rank is listed as pte . But in his records shows him as sjt and other obove ranks is this staping right or should it have other rank on Cheers all Regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 25 September , 2012 Share Posted 25 September , 2012 He was in the army on and off from 1883. Did he have his 18 years before WW1? Mind you, I suppose he wouldn't have had the 20580 number if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 25 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2012 He had done more than 18 years by looks of it and had service numer 704 with the east yorks reg nd then 764 with the royal garisson regiment whom with he seems to have been sent to south africa with it was only upon 1915 he got service number 20580 when he was with the loyals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 25 September , 2012 Share Posted 25 September , 2012 I've found a mention of him in 1924 as an established civilian employee of the war office; http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13986/pages/59/page.pdf Presumably, he was able to convert his army role into a post-war job, and that's what his death certificate refers to, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 25 September , 2012 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2012 Cheers ipt is there any explanation for this stamping is it possible all is correct ir some kind of mishap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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