Guest Pete Wood Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 I would be most interested to hear of any soldiers who are linked to the 'worst' crime. If anyone has any details, no matter how sketchy, about British and commonwelath soldiers/officers who were: accused, or convicted, linked with, or were themselves, murdered. I realise this is a subject that some may not want to reply to in public, so please feel free to contact me off-forum if this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Carter Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 I have a book entitled 'Murderous Birmingham - The executed of the twentieth Century' written by John J Eddleston. In it he writes about gruesome murders that took place in and around Birmingham from 1901 until 1962 when the death penalty was abolished. One particular story he tells concerns former soldier Henry Thomas Gaskin who was hung at Winson Green prison, B'ham in 1919. He was known as the "Hednesford Ripper" He enlisted in 1916. If you want any scans let me know. Regards Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete Wood Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Yes please, Terry. I think this chap was a miner....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Dr. Archibald Henderson (Highland Brigade in the Great War; RAMC in the Second War) murdered by John George Haig, the acid bath murderer, 1948 Major Herbert Armstrong (Territorials then a short spell in France), hanged 1921 for the murder of his wife. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 There was a Famous case of the 1920s::"The Case Of The Green Bicycle" when a Former Soldier was tried for the Murder of a Housemaid whose body was found in a ditch with a bullet wound in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 until 1962 when the death penalty was abolished. The death penalty for murder in Britain was suspended in 1965 for an experimental 5 years and then abolished in 1969. 106733 Pte J R H Christie 2/5th Bn Notts & Derby Regt. Reg Christie killed 6 women and possibly Beryl Evans between 1944 & 1953 before being hanged. However the worst crime IMHO was committed by an ex member of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, who threatened to sing in the Prince of Wales pub just outside Cobham earlier this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Alfred Rouse - the 'Suicide Murderer' who was hanged for killing an unknown on 10 March 1931. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Gnr Harold Hill 86th Field Regt Royal Artillery who was hanged in April 1942 for killing 2 schoolgirls in Hazlemere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Pte. (acting Cpl) H Williams, 10th (Prince Of Wales's Own Royal) Hussars was charged with murder at a Field General Courts Martial on November 29th 1920. He was subsequently convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to one year detention of which he ultimately served 52 days. Source: PRO WO92/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Francis Percy Toplis is the obvious one (even if all the 'monacled' mutineer guff is set aside). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 John Robinson who killed a prostitute Minnie Bonati in 1927, dismenbered her body and put it in a trunk and then left it at Charing Cross Station. Robinson as a soldier and Minnie Bonati: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwoodman Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Pte Richard Morgan and L/Cpl William Price both 2nd Welsh, shot CSM Hughie Hayes 20/01/15, all three buried in Bethune Town. 22 other SADs (for murder) buried in CWGC Cems along with 9 victims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Norman Thorne served with the RNAS & RAF in France during 1918, where he was wounded. In 1924 he was hanged for killing and them dismembering his fiance Elsie Cameron at Crowborough in Sussex. Norman & Elsie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Major Herbert Armstrong (Territorials then a short spell in France), hanged 1921 for the murder of his wife. Major Armstrong: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 The Black Panther, Donald Neilson, who killed Lesley Whittle in 1975, did his National Service with the KOYLI in 1955, serving in Kenya, Aden & Cyprus. The Panther resisted arrest................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 The Boston Strangler, Albert DeSalvo, who killed 13 women, had served with the US Army in Germany: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Finally Scotsman Peter Manuel was executed in 1958 for killing 9 people during a spate of robberies. His last victim, a woman, he raped first then shot her in the face through the right eye. During WW2 he served with the Highland Light Infantry, where he learn't how to use firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Neville Heath (ex RAF) convicted of murdering Margery Gardner and Doreen Marshall. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 PC Gutteridge (Machine Gun Corps 1918) murdered by Kennedy and Browne (1927?) Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Matthews Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Marina Do you have anymore details on Pc Gutteridge? Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 19 August , 2004 Share Posted 19 August , 2004 Do you have anymore details on Pc Gutteridge? This Murder happened I believe on the Ongar to Romford Road in Essex,on 27th September 1927,Kennedy 36;& Browne 47'were on the Run after a Crime ,involving the theft of a Car & were I think stopped by PC Gutteridge,Browne,a Motor dealer, shot him & then in the mistaken belief that the eyes recorded the last image seen before death blasted PC Gutteridge in the Eyes,Both Men were captured some months after PC Gutteride's Murder,This Case was one of the earliest where Balllistic's Evidence was used with success,in Matching up,Bullet Markings from Browne's Obsolete Webley Revovler ,to those used in the Murder;helping to estabilish forensic ballistics as a proven science,tried & hanged for their Crime in 1928. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 20 August , 2004 Share Posted 20 August , 2004 Dennis Nielsen, ex Army Catering Corp. Convicted in October 1983 of murdering at least 15 people. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted 20 August , 2004 Share Posted 20 August , 2004 The recently published history of the 5th Bn AIF listed one of their soldiers who committed a murder after the war. I'll have a look when I get home for further details. On the receiving end however was Captain Tulloch of the 11th Battalion. On the first day at Gallipoli he was one of the few people who reached the third ridge before having to go back to the forming line on the second ridge. He survived the war, again taking a prominent part in the last months of the war with the 11th Bn. In about 1923 at his home in Melbourne he was murdered by a burglar. Unfortunately they never caught the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted 20 August , 2004 Share Posted 20 August , 2004 Ian, However the worst crime IMHO was committed by an ex member of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, who threatened to sing in the Prince of Wales pub just outside Cobham earlier this year He couldn't have been ex 3rd Bn because we were all good singers George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 20 August , 2004 Share Posted 20 August , 2004 PC Gutteridge (Machine Gun Corps 1918) murdered by Kennedy and Browne (1927?) Marina I have a photogrpah of Gutteridge at home. This was particularly gruesome as He was shot in the face through both eyes and all for a stolen car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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