Armagh men Henderson Royal Flying Corps

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Looking help with this article from the local newsppaper,which is hard to read the scanned copy.

Armagh Men Henderson Royal Flying Corp

Armagh Gazette 30 Sept 1916

Mr R.H. Henderson C.M.G. ex-mayor of Kimberley, is at present on a visit to his mother, who resides at ???on. Prior to arriving in Armagh,

Mr Henderson had been in France on a visit to his son, Lieutenant Henderson, of the Royal Flying Corps.

A short time ago Lieutenant Henderson had a very narrow escape from death. While engaged in a tussle with three enemy machines his observer was shot and the engines of his aeroplane being destroyed, he came down with a tumble into the French lines. Although wounded in the side, Lieutenant Henderson was engaged at his duties as an aviator three days after.

Questions

Where did his mother Mrs Henderson live in Armagh?

Was Mr R.H.Henderson son born in Armagh or ???

if Lt Henderson was born in Armagh that could be an other name for the Armagh Roll of Honour.

Many thanks

Joe

[corisande]

Then there was R.H. Henderson who, if not quite on the scale of the Orrs, was none the

less a prominent retail store owner. Robert Henderson arrived in South Africa in 1884

and opened his first shop in Kimberley in 1887. He went on to open stores in Durban

(1895), Boksburg (1902), Johannesburg (1906) and Germiston (1907). Henderson

was mayor of Kimberley during the famous siege of 1899-1900. He was described as “a

raconteur of a high order, as well as being a genial and hospitable host”5.

In http://www.cliohres.net/books4/6/08.pdf

See R.H. Henderson, An Ulsterman in Africa, Cape Town 1945. - Could well give you the answer

[corisande]

And http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH/2002-08/1028904114 gives you

Robert Hugh HENDERSON from Ulster in Ireland. He was born on 6 March 1862

and was the son of James HENDERSON and Margaret McLOUGLIN. He arrived in

1884 per the "Garth Castle" and was a business man in Johannesburg. He

married Sarah Matilda WARWICK (daughter of a Missionary - find out more Vol

2 Dictionary of South African Biography) in O'Kiep on 8 June 1892 and died

in Kimberly on 5 October 1956.

They had one son Ernest James Warwick HENDERSON

Ernest James Warwick Henderson was born 05 September 1894 You can get his service record online from TNA for £3.36 at

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8713636&queryType=1&resultcount=4

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corisande

Very interesting and very helpfull.

Many thanks

Joe

[corisande]

Trying to get the background on men who served with the ADRIC and with few details to go on, makes one quite resouceful at getting information on a man's past

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Trying to get the background on men who served with the ADRIC and with few details to go on, makes one quite resouceful at getting information on a man's past

ADRIC ?? Royal Irish Constabulary?

[corisande]

Auxiliary Division thereof. PM me if you have any in Armagh

[ARMAGH]

corisande PM sent.

I am looking for a photo of Mr R.H.Henderson C.M.G. i am sure there must be one somewhere,but I have looked on the internet and no luck,can any one help?

Joe

[ARMAGH]

And http://archiver.root...2-08/1028904114 gives you

Robert Hugh HENDERSON from Ulster in Ireland. He was born on 6 March 1862

and was the son of James HENDERSON and Margaret McLOUGLIN. He arrived in

1884 per the "Garth Castle" and was a business man in Johannesburg. He

married Sarah Matilda WARWICK (daughter of a Missionary - find out more Vol

2 Dictionary of South African Biography) in O'Kiep on 8 June 1892 and died

in Kimberly on 5 October 1956.

They had one son Ernest James Warwick HENDERSON

Ernest James Warwick Henderson was born 05 September 1894 You can get his service record online from TNA for £3.36 at

http://www.nationala...1&resultcount=4

According GWGC Eric Joseph Henderson is the son of R.M.Henderson CMG S.Africa.

WW1 Medal Rolls index cards 1914-1920

about Eric Jospeph Henderson as Royal Field Artillery (SR)

Then under image is all the details of Captain E.J Henderson MC Royal Flying Corps father,s address in S.Africa,was he R.A. before going into the RFC?

Now this "They had one son Ernest James Warwick Henderson" from South Afican Biography, there has to be a mistake some where?

Does any one have the details on Ernest James Warwick Henderson ? I cannot purchase service record online from TNA for £3.36 as I am researching to many Co Armagh people,it would costs thousands of pounds.

Can any one help? confused?

Joe

[corisande]

R.H. Henderson wrote " An Ulsterman in Africa, Cape Town 1945". You could try to get that in your local library if nobody here can give you an answer. He ought to clarify his son's details

Alternatively there is a tree on Ancestry, where you could contact the tree owners

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/40248354/person/19468953783?ssrc=

As far as I can see there are two RAF officers

Eric Joseph Henderson, born circa 1898, d 25 Mar 1917

Ernest James Warwick Henderson born 05 September 1894 and did not die in WW1

It is possible that they were both sons of R H Henderson of Kimberley. As you say some fact is wrong somewhere, but without the service records, I think you will be pushed to find out, S A births are difficult to trace

You could try a new thread for "Eric Joseph Henderson MC" in Air sub-forum and link to this thread and see if anyone has info on him specifically

[Dolphin]

Capt E J Henderson of No 70 Sqn RFC was killed in action, together with his observer, Lt John Moir Sim (formerly 6th Bn, Gordon Highlanders), while flying Sopwith 1½ Strutter A2986 on 25 March 1917. No 70 Sqn lost five aircraft over Cambrai that day when they fought Albatroses from Jasta 5.

Gareth

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Capt E J Henderson of No 70 Sqn RFC was killed in action, together with his observer, Lt John Moir Sim (formerly 6th Bn, Gordon Highlanders), while flying Sopwith 1½ Strutter A2986 on 25 March 1917. No 70 Sqn lost five aircraft over Cambrai that day when they fought Albatroses from Jasta 5.

Gareth

Thanks Gareth

That is great information to add to the pen picture on Captain EJ Henderson,any info on when he won his MC?

Joe

[Dolphin]

Thanks Gareth

That is great information to add to the pen picture on Captain EJ Henderson,any info on when he won his MC?

Joe

Joe

The MC was Gazetted in the King's Birthday Honours List on 1 June 1917 without a citation.

Some more information on him includes:

on 9 September 1916 [then] 2Lt E J Henderson of No 70 Sqn was flying Strutter A1911 when the aeroplane was badly damaged by enemy fire and forced to land in the French lines, his observer 2Lt Guy Newsome Cousans (formerly 3rd Bn, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers), was killed in action; and

on 21 October 1916 he was flying Strutter A892, with 2Lt R D Elliott as observer, when initially posted as MIssing in Action - he must have crashed somewhere behind Allied lines.

I hope this is useful.

Gareth

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Joe

The MC was Gazetted in the King's Birthday Honours List on 1 June 1917 without a citation.

Some more information on him includes:

on 9 September 1916 [then] 2Lt E J Henderson of No 70 Sqn was flying Strutter A1911 when the aeroplane was badly damaged by enemy fire and forced to land in the French lines, his observer 2Lt Guy Newsome Cousans (formerly 3rd Bn, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers), was killed in action; and

on 21 October 1916 he was flying Strutter A892, with 2Lt R D Elliott as observer, when initially posted as MIssing in Action - he must have crashed somewhere behind Allied lines.

I hope this is useful.

Gareth

Thanks Gareth

Very useful in building up a picture of the young Eric J Henderson, very rapid promotion to Captain, that is two observer lost while flying with him !

Armagh had quite a few men in the RFC,Lt A.MacLaughlin (McLaughlin) who could be a relative of Eric Henderson, Lt Col C.J Burke DSO who served as a Wing Commander in the Western Front, and Capt Herron,who did not join up untill 1918,

Joe

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Thanks Gareth

Very useful in building up a picture of the young Eric J Henderson, very rapid promotion to Captain, that is two observer lost while flying with him !

Armagh had quite a few men in the RFC,Lt A.MacLaughlin (McLaughlin) who could be a relative of Eric Henderson, Lt Col C.J Burke DSO who served as a Wing Commander in the Western Front, and Capt Herron,who did not join up untill 1918,

Joe

Besides Charles James Burke and Alexander Wilson McLaughin there were quite a few other Armagh casualties with the RFC/RAF (and indeed, as you mention, Oscar Heron with the Irish Air Corps).

One RAF casualty who tends to be overlooked is Rowland Irvine Bradley, as the twilight zone between Corr, Dunvalley, Charlemont, Co Armagh and Moy, Co Tyrone sees him Tyrone-ed a lot.

Robert Francis Christie was the youngest son of Rev Edwin Barry Christie and Julia Pasche Christie, of Middletown, Diocese of Armagh. His father was from Dublin, his mother from Co Down. Irish Census 1901 also indicates that of his older brothers Cedric was born in Co Cavan and Reginald in Co Dublin.

John Collen was the son of Frederick and Addie Collen, of Carrickblacker, Portadown, Co. Armagh, Ireland. On the Bank of Ireland records his address was Carricklee, Levaghery, Portadown, Co Armagh.

William Francis Fullerton was described as being the son of John Henry and Frances M. I. Fullerton, of 12619, Stony Plain Rd., Edmonton, Alberta. Canada. Native of Armagh, Ireland.

However, one who is often overlooked is the ace Thomas Proctor. The next-of-kin on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission reads as 47 Lanark St Belfast but the Irish Census 1911 records him as living at Wilton St Belfast with his widowed mother. The census records clearly state that he was born in Co Armagh. This is confirmed via his RNAS service record (ADM 188/584), which records his birthplace as Lurgan, Co Armagh.

Best of luck with any research.

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Hello Airshipped

All information gratefully received, My research area covers Armagh Council area 1914-18,Portadown & Lurgan is out side the area.

Robert F Christie I have come across before, Rowland I. Bradley and William F.Fullerton are new names to me,do you have any details of them?

Many thanks

Joe

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Hi Joe,

I don't have much on Bradley beyond the standard CWGC details but there are plenty of people out there who do have a fair amount of detail re his background:

http://www.northirishhorse.com.au/nih/images/In%20memoriam/Full%20pictures/Bradley.htm

Fullerton's next-of-kin on his CWGC record indicates that he was a native of Armagh:

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/566845/FULLERTON,%20W%20F%20H

However, now that you mention it, I've just taken a quick glance at the William Fullertons who enlisted in Canada and cannot find a matching attestation paper there, which is curious:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-110.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=cotsvjfr2ulrqt7uhjq7aau3b1&q1=fullerton&q2=william&q3=&interval=20

Given that your interest is in Co Armagh you've probably already come across the English-born Reginald Cuthbert Whiteside. He was shot down and killed by the Red Baron on 20-Dec-1916. Although English-born his father was from Co Armagh and Reginald was schooled in Ireland. On the CWGC he is described as being "son of the Rev. W. C. Whiteside, M.A., and Laura Whiteside, of 19, Amaru Rd., Onehunga, Auckland, New Zealand" but don't let that deter you: Reginald was Head Prefect of Campbell College, Belmont, Belfast, in 1914. (Irish Census 1911 indicates that he was born in England, UK, but that Census also indicates that Rev William was serving as the Rector of Kilflyn, Co Limerick and was resident there with his wife Laura and 1 other of their 6 children. Rev Whiteside was born in Co Armagh, Laura in England and Dorothy Florence in India).

One other dead Irish aviator with an Armagh connection was Franklin Jason Semple from Co Cork. His father was from Co Armagh.

Of the Armagh aviators who survived the war there are too many to mention but a quick glance at my spreadsheets here reveal a Charles Ernest Emerson of the RNAS. (His family were from Tandragee). There was also a William Saunderson and a Jonathan Seaver.

Saunderson returned to work with the Canadian Bank of Commerce after the war. His attestation papers give his next-of-kin as still being in Co Armagh:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/083058a.gif&id_nbr=214602

Best of luck with any research you're conducting.

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Re the Fullerton chap I must have been asleep: his family had a substantial connection to Armagh, as his father John Henry Fullerton was actually the John Henry Fullerton; the Canadian element is something of a red herring:

http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/1654

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Re the Fullerton chap I must have been asleep: his family had a substantial connection to Armagh, as his father John Henry Fullerton was actually the John Henry Fullerton; the Canadian element is something of a red herring:

http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/1654

Hello Airshipped

Any connections?

I have a Herbert Ephraim Fullerton was born in Armagh on 2 May 1875 (Date of birth on Army records as 2 -5-1880) and died on 5 Oct 1927. Belfast.

Fullerton Herbert Ephraim of Armagh county Armagh captain retired,

Died 5 October 1927 at The Royal Victoria Hospital Belfast Administration Belfast.

11 June, married to Edith Marion Fullerton the widow. Effects £101 9s. 4d.

Capt Royal Army Service Corp Enlisted Discharge 1921

His parents were Ephraim Fullerton and Anna Maria Gray who married on 18 Oct 1860 in Armagh Church of Ireland. PRONI Will Calendars mention both men and also has an image of the father's will.

Family Plot in St Mark’s Armagh

Census 1911

Residents of a house 34 in The Mall ArmaghHerbert Ephraim Fullerton age 35 male Church of Ireland

Edith Marion Fullerton age 24 wife Church of Ireland

Many thanks

Joe

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Hi Joe,

I don't have much on Bradley beyond the standard CWGC details but there are plenty of people out there who do have a fair amount of detail re his background:

http://www.northiris...res/Bradley.htm

Fullerton's next-of-kin on his CWGC record indicates that he was a native of Armagh:

http://www.cwgc.org/...ULLERTON, W F H

However, now that you mention it, I've just taken a quick glance at the William Fullertons who enlisted in Canada and cannot find a matching attestation paper there, which is curious:

http://www.collectio...q3=&interval=20

Given that your interest is in Co Armagh you've probably already come across the English-born Reginald Cuthbert Whiteside. He was shot down and killed by the Red Baron on 20-Dec-1916. Although English-born his father was from Co Armagh and Reginald was schooled in Ireland. On the CWGC he is described as being "son of the Rev. W. C. Whiteside, M.A., and Laura Whiteside, of 19, Amaru Rd., Onehunga, Auckland, New Zealand" but don't let that deter you: Reginald was Head Prefect of Campbell College, Belmont, Belfast, in 1914. (Irish Census 1911 indicates that he was born in England, UK, but that Census also indicates that Rev William was serving as the Rector of Kilflyn, Co Limerick and was resident there with his wife Laura and 1 other of their 6 children. Rev Whiteside was born in Co Armagh, Laura in England and Dorothy Florence in India).

One other dead Irish aviator with an Armagh connection was Franklin Jason Semple from Co Cork. His father was from Co Armagh.

Of the Armagh aviators who survived the war there are too many to mention but a quick glance at my spreadsheets here reveal a Charles Ernest Emerson of the RNAS. (His family were from Tandragee). There was also a William Saunderson and a Jonathan Seaver.

Saunderson returned to work with the Canadian Bank of Commerce after the war. His attestation papers give his next-of-kin as still being in Co Armagh:

http://www.collectio...f&id_nbr=214602

Best of luck with any research you're conducting.

Hello Airshipped

Reference Bradley from the Moy, you have given me names from the family which I had not come across.

Thank you,I wll look at the rest of the name you have given me.

Joe

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Hi Joe,

Re William Fullerton. He was the son of the architect John Henry Fullerton (1844-1924). In the UK Census 1901 the family are living at 24 Fopstone Rd, Kensington. William's mother (b.1858) is described as being from Southsea, Hampshire but all 5 children were born in Ireland.

William was the eldest (b.1889, d. 22/10/1916), next Henry KC (b.1891), Frances M (b.1892), Mary D (b.1893) and John C (b.1896).

The mother-in-law, Isabella Hannan is also present, as are a large number of others.

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Hi Joe,

Re William Fullerton. He was the son of the architect John Henry Fullerton (1844-1924). In the UK Census 1901 the family are living at 24 Fopstone Rd, Kensington. William's mother (b.1858) is described as being from Southsea, Hampshire but all 5 children were born in Ireland.

William was the eldest (b.1889, d. 22/10/1916), next Henry KC (b.1891), Frances M (b.1892), Mary D (b.1893) and John C (b.1896).

The mother-in-law, Isabella Hannan is also present, as are a large number of others.

Thanks Airshipped

You have a good knowledge of Armagh,I did not have that bit of information, have you any information on Lee Rice of Armagh? also St Mark,s church?

Joe

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Thanks Airshipped

You have a good knowledge of Armagh,I did not have that bit of information, have you any information on Lee Rice of Armagh? also St Mark,s church?

Joe

I haven't come across Lee Rice. I'm not too familiar on the naval types, but if you had a particular family in mind you may need to fork out to the UK National Archives, e.g. here's a Patrick Rice and a Peter Rice from Armagh:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7181275&queryType=1&resultcount=1

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8939698&queryType=1&resultcount=57

I find the UK National Archives to be very much the last resort, however, as almost invariably you'll find someone with a digital scan of an army or navy list that places the subject of your inquiries at a particular date, place or rank. However, if you wanted to draw up a "hitlist" of people for further research then you could always just do a few keyword searches and take down the names and DOBs for further research on free resources such as census returns, e.g. here are 459 Armagh men who took to sea betwen 1853 and 1923:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=place%3darmagh&catid=15&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*

Similarly, here are 7 officers, from Loughgall to Lurgan:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=place%3darmagh&catid=50&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*

Once again you'd need to weed out a lot, but here are the names of 81 men in the Royal Naval Reserve from Armagh:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=place%3darmagh&catid=49&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*

Best of luck with any research.

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Capt E J Henderson of No 70 Sqn RFC

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[captainhobb]

Hi Joe

I don't know if all your questions about Eric Henderson and his parents have already been answered but if not R.H.Henderson was my grandmothers cousin so I might be able to help? R.H.Henderson and his parents lived in Kildarton, Armagh. Eric Henderson was born in South Africa - I believe in Kimberley - and was educated at King Edward VII school in Johannesburg where he is remembered on their Roll of Honour. His father travelled back to Armagh quite often and there is a portrait of him in Armagh Museum although now banished to the stores and no longer on display. Two of Eric's cousins fought in the Great War - both of them had been born at Tirnascobe, Kildarton and later emigrated to Kimberley. Lance Corporal Robert Hugh McLoughin fought with the 3rd South African regiment dying on the 18th Oct.1916. Remembered Thiepval Memorial Somme. His other cousin William McLoughlin survived so it is harder to trace him but I believe he was with the 4th Regt. South African Infantry.