Story Posted 20 June , 2012 Share Posted 20 June , 2012 DIVERS YESTERDAY recovered two anchors from the wreck of German vessel the Aud used in a foiled attempt to smuggle some 20,000 rifles to the Irish Volunteers for the Easter Rising of 1916. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0620/1224318257419.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Story Posted 20 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2012 Found elsewhere, related - A rifle smuggled into Northern Ireland nearly a century ago by the old UVF has been uncovered in a Belfast attic in pristine condition. The gun, believed to be a M1904 Mannlicher rifle smuggled in during the Larne gun-running of April 1914, was found in the roofspace of the house alongside a small pistol — and bullets for both guns. Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/historic-uvf-rifle-found-in-belfast-attic-16072349.html#ixzz1yLH4ffSr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 20 June , 2012 Share Posted 20 June , 2012 Not sure how its related since these guns were not smuggled during the war and not in support of Irish independence - quite the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 20 June , 2012 Share Posted 20 June , 2012 I am at a bit of a loss to know how a failed gun running attempt and the failure of casement can be considered "important" to Irish history. Perhaps an "importamnt failure"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrough Posted 20 June , 2012 Share Posted 20 June , 2012 I would imagine that artefacts from the "Aud" would be sought after by some people in Ireland. The anchors would make fine public monuments and maybe would help to educate people about that period of Irish history. While it was a failed enterprise some would consider it important,which is not unusual as failed endeavours and escapades are sometimes elevated to a status of importance for other ends and sometimes to reflect a differing view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdoyle Posted 20 June , 2012 Share Posted 20 June , 2012 I am at a bit of a loss to know how a failed gun running attempt and the failure of casement can be considered "important" to Irish history. Perhaps an "importamnt failure"? perhaps not important to some but certainly something out of the Audinary...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 20 June , 2012 Share Posted 20 June , 2012 perhaps not important to some but certainly something out of the Audinary...... Sergeant! put up a triangle and have that man flogged on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanLee Posted 21 June , 2012 Share Posted 21 June , 2012 Many would consider the 1916 Rising as the first battle of the War of Independence, many of the prominent leaders of the War of Independence were involved in the Rising or educated in the University of Revolution, Frongoch. Had the Aud been successful I don’t think it would have had made much difference to the outcome of the Rising but I think the Rising did influence many Home Rule supporters to change to supporting full independence. And I suppose it is ironic in a way, it will probably be German money that pays to have the anchors erected in a public place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 21 June , 2012 Share Posted 21 June , 2012 I don’t think it would have had made much difference to the outcome of the Rising but I think the Rising did influence many Home Rule supporters to change to supporting full independence. More the treatment of its leaders afterwards than the rising itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 21 June , 2012 Share Posted 21 June , 2012 Historical significance is not measured by success or failure. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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