daggers Posted 5 June , 2012 Share Posted 5 June , 2012 How did the separate salutes of the Royal Navy (and once of the Police) and the Army and Royal Air Force evolve? D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_acorn Posted 5 June , 2012 Share Posted 5 June , 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 5 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 5 June , 2012 Seems reasonable. Thanks for the pointer. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyman Posted 11 June , 2012 Share Posted 11 June , 2012 Now there is saluting and there is saluting .......... As a soldier is progressing through the ranks they do get modified of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asanewt Posted 11 June , 2012 Share Posted 11 June , 2012 British Fire Service salute apparently evolves from Royal Navy officers and men which predominently provided recruits in the early days of formal fire brigades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 I am sure that I have seen soldiers giving a salute that seems to be at variance from the standard version described above, for example with the fingers pointing almost straight up.I had assumed that different units may have a slightly different salute, perhaps for reasons of tradition. Could any military experts enlighten me, please? Also, watching The Dambusters there is a scene with three RAF officers in a room, two wearing caps and one (the senior) not. The junior officers saluted the superior, but he did not return the salute, presumably due to his lack of headgear. I believe that in the Royal Navy hats are not worn indoors, but perhaps the RAF is different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 RAF? Saluting? How terribly common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 Whilst the Dambusters was on, another channel had World's Stongest Man. One of the contestants was ex Russian Marine and wore his beret. He kept saluting eveyone which became quite annoying after the first few seconds. To be honest he looked more like Benny Hill, (one of Eastleigh's finest!). Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 Longest way up ... shortest way down. It's the only way. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffnut453 Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 Up, two-three...wiggle, two-three...down, two-three! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 12 hours ago, Buffnut453 said: Up, two-three...wiggle, two-three...down, two-three! Sounds like a sex guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 Would it be acceptable for a senior officer to salute in a more casual manner? There is a photo of Douglas Haig saluting with his fingers pointing to the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_acorn Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, sassenach said: Would it be acceptable for a senior officer to salute in a more casual manner? There is a photo of Douglas Haig saluting with his fingers pointing to the sky. Senior officers may regard it as acceptable, the Warrant Officers, Senior Non Commissioned Officers and Other Ranks less often so, indeed many would regard it as a bit fey and a response unworthy of the person who saluted them. Edited 1 January , 2019 by green_acorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIFFO Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 is it true that a recipient of the VC doesn't have to salute any one not even an officer, BUT I bet he has to salute her maj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 Here you go: Queen's Regulations Page 222. Army Drill Manual Page 46. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 Thanks, very interesting. So it looks as though there is a single correct way to salute, and no exceptions for different units etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyman Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 This photo taken c.1983, the location I do not know shows the RSM of 5/8 Kings (V). Notice how high the salute is, as I remarked on 11 June 2012 there is saluting and saluting, obviously this the RSM's interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 Yes, I think that's what I was trying to get at. In this case, has he just got it wrong, or is there another explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierssc Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 It’s worth pointing out that these photographs of non-standard salutes may just be a matter of the photographer pressing the button before the movement was completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 'Wrong' is a very finite word - idiosyncrasies creep in, sometimes accentuations promoted by unit pride! What is important though, is the mutual respect that the salute signifies. Both saluter and saluted should look each other in the eye and salute in a courteous manner. Both parties should indicate that the salute is valued. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 10 minutes ago, pierssc said: It’s worth pointing out that these photographs of non-standard salutes may just be a matter of the photographer pressing the button before the movement was completed. I do agree and would anticipate the hand of the RSM is in the downwards direction. The officer - who I think I recognise is well braced up - good show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 For officers there is a correct RMAS way, but in time the salute evolves into a thing of sartorial beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 Thanks for your comments gents; much appreciated. So it seems that Haig's "fingers up" salute had no significance beyond the fact that an officer of his rank could salute pretty much however he wished. At the other end of the spectrum I think I've also seen Sgt Wilson doing it in Dad's Army! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 1 January , 2019 Share Posted 1 January , 2019 59 minutes ago, sassenach said: an officer of his rank could salute pretty much however he wished Quite! As my final remark on this subject (hooray), and in my opinion, any officer who attempts to salute 50 soldiers in the 'RMAS way' as they pass him one after another in a busy street will probably get tennis elbow, at least. A more relaxed but equally respectful compromise is a natural evolution. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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