'Mackindergarten'

[CPhillips]

I am trying to find out more about the administrative staff training course run at the LSE in the prewar period, set up by Haldane and Mackinder, has anyone one on the forum looked into this aspect of preparation at all?

The six month course (usually run from October to March, although the first ran January to July 1907) was designed to create an administrative staff well versed in the necessary skills for running the 'business' of the army, and focussed on subjects such as accountancy, railway operation, economics, commercial law and statistics. However, there do not seem to be many references to it in the works I have come across. Spiers refers to the course in his book on Haldane's reforms, whilst one or two books on Mackinder have mentions of it. To my knowledge Brown's work on British Logistics does not mention the existence of the course at all, but rather focuses on a paucity of administrative training at Camberley. There were eight courses run between 1907 and 1914 with the last class prior to the outbreak of war graduating in March 1914.

If anyone has looked into the arrangements surrounding the LSE courses I'd be interested to hear more, particularly upon the destinations of those officers who passed the course upon the outbreak of war. Many officers who took the course were from the ASC, Ordnance Dept and the RE, but there were also representatives of the Guards, Infantry divisions and the RFA among others, it would be interesting to know if these officers were tasked to specific administrative duties throughout the conflict, and whether their attendance at the course led to them taking a particular career path during the war. As you will see below, the numbers that took the course were relatively small considering the size to which the BEF would grow, however it would be interesting to see if the course was seen as a valuable qualification.

Below are the names of all 243 officers who successfully passed the course prior to the outbreak of war (alphabetical order). If anyone would prefer this info in a spreadsheet for their own manipulation, please let me know.

Course Year completed Surname Initials Rank upon Completion Unit affiliation

4 1910 Acworth L.R. Major West Riding Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

5 1911 Adair A.C. Lieutenant West India Regiment

3 1909 Airey R.B. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Alexander W.L. Major Yorkshire Regiment

7 1913 Alexander H.M. Captain Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

6 1912 Allin H.C. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Arbuthnot J.B. Major Scots Guards

8 1914 Armes R.J. Captain North Staffordshire Regiment

3 1909 Austin J.G. Captain Royal Garrison Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

6 1912 Baker J. Captain Army Ordnance Department

5 1911 Baring T.E. Captain Rifle Brigade

5 1911 Barton W.H. Captain Army Service Corps

7 1913 Beckwith A.T. Major Hampshire Regiment

7 1913 Bell J.A.D. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Bennett T.E. Captain Army Service Corps

1 1907 Bernard J.F. Major Army Ordnance Department

3 1909 Bernard W.K. Major Army Service Corps

5 1911 Bingham C.H.M. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Blake W.A. Captain Wiltshire Regiment

7 1913 Blencowe E.P. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Boyd A.O. Captain Royal Field Artillery

2 1908 Bradbridge E.U. Captain Wiltshire Regiment

1 1907 Bridge W.C. Major South Staffordshire Regiment

1 1907 Bright R.A. Major Royal Artillery

5 1911 Bright R.G.T. Major Rifle Brigade

6 1912 Brown G.H. Captain Coldstream Guards

6 1912 Brown P.W. Captain Gordon Highlanders

8 1914 Buchanan-Dunlop H.D. Captain Royal West Kent Regiment

6 1912 Buller J.D. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Burrard H.G. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Bush H.S. Captain Royal West Kent Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

2 1908 Buzzard C.N. Captain Royal Artillery

6 1912 Byrne H.F. Captain York and Lancaster Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Byron J. Captain Royal Artillery

8 1914 Campbell W.H.McN. Lieutenant Royal Garrison Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Campbell J. Major & Bt. Lieutenant-Colonel Cameron Highlanders

1 1907 Cannot F.G.E. Captain Army Service Corps

1 1907 Carter E.E. Major Army Service Corps

5 1911 Chatterton F.B.M. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Christie W.E.T. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Christopher C.D. Major Army Service Corps

6 1912 Cinnamond C.H.L. Captain Royal Irish Rifles

2 1908 Cleeve H. Major Army Service Corps

1 1907 Conway-Gordon G. Major Army Service Corps

5 1911 Cooke Collis W.J.N. Captain Irish Rifles

5 1911 Cooper King R.G. Captain West Yorkshire Regiment

4 1910 Coulson J. Captain Army Service Corps

1 1907 Courtney E.A.W. Major Army Service Corps

7 1913 Courtney R.W. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Cracroft H. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Craig-Brown E Captain Cameron Highlanders

7 1913 Crawley R.P. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Crofton R.B. Captain Army Ordnance Department

2 1908 Cumberlege H.C.F. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Cunningham-Cunningham T. Lieutenant Royal Artillery

8 1914 Curtis-Raleigh H.T.R. Captain Royal Berkshire Regiment

7 1913 Dansey F.H. Captain Wiltshire Regiment

2 1908 Davies G.F. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Davies P.M. Major Army Service Corps

4 1910 de Berry P.P. Major Royal Field Artillery

7 1913 de la Pryme P.C. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 de Smidt E.M. Captain Royal Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Delavoye A.E. Major Army Service Corps

1 1907 Denny W.A.C. Major Army Service Corps

8 1914 Dixon W.C. Captain Leicestershire Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

5 1911 Dooner W.D. Captain Royal Irish Fusiliers & Army Ordnance Department

6 1912 Dudley G de S. Captain Royal Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

3 1909 Duffus F.F. Major Army Service Corps

6 1912 Duke A.C.H. Lieutenant Royal Artillery

4 1910 Duncan J. Captain Royal Scots Regiment

5 1911 Duxbury C.D. Captain Indian Army

7 1913 Dymock A. Captain Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Elliot G.A. Captain Royal Irish Regiment

7 1913 Ellis A.C.S.B. Captain 121st Pioneers, Indian Army

7 1913 Exham F.S. Captain Army Ordnance Department

5 1911 Faichnie D.C. Major Army Ordnance Department

7 1913 Farmar H.M. Captain Lancashire Fusiliers

4 1910 Fernyhough H.C. Captain Yorkshire Light Infantry & Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Fisher H.F.T. Major Army Service Corps

3 1909 Fisher C.A. Major Army Ordnance Department

7 1913 Fisher C.T. Captain Royal Marine Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Fisher A.J. Captain Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Fitzgerald A. Lieutenant Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

2 1908 Forbes A. Major Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Foster T.D. Colonel Army Service Corps

4 1910 Foster H.N. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 Fraser H.F. Major 21st Lancers

7 1913 Fuller B.M. Captain Dorsetshire Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

5 1911 Galloway A.G. Captain Army Service Corps

7 1913 Geoghegan O.A. Captain Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

4 1910 Gibb R.C. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Gibbs A.A. Major Indian Medical Service

3 1909 Gifford H.L. Captain Royal Irish Rifles

3 1909 Gillespie E.C.F. Major Army Service Corps

4 1910 Gillespie F.M. Major South Wales Borderers

7 1913 Gordon A.R.G. Captain Royal Irish Regiment

6 1912 Grazebrook G.C. Captain Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers

6 1912 Greaves H.M. Captain Royal Artillery

1 1907 Gregson H.G.F.S. Captain East Kent Regiment

3 1909 Grieve C.C. Lieutenant Cameron Highlanders

3 1909 Grose D.C.E. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Grove P.L. Captain Cheshire Regiment

1 1907 Gwynn C.W. Major Royal Engineers

8 1914 Hadow F.H. Captain Army Service Corps

7 1913 Haining R.H. Lieutenant Royal Field Artillery

3 1909 Hamilton G.C. Captain Grenadier Guards

3 1909 Hamilton R.S. Major Army Ordnance Department

6 1912 Harvey G.H. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Hayley S.T. Captain Devonshire Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Hazelton P.O. Major Army Service Corps

1 1907 Heath G.M. Lieutenant-Colonel Royal Engineers

2 1908 Henderson E.G. Captain Royal Engineers

8 1914 Herklots A. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Hill D.J.J. Captain North Staffordshire Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Hills C.E. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Hoare L.L. Captain Royal Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

4 1910 Holland T.C.B. Captain Devonshire Regiment

7 1913 Hollins W.T. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Hore-Ruthven W.P. Major Scots Guards

4 1910 Howard H.M. Captain Royal Marine Light Infantry & Army Ordnance Department

7 1913 Hunt T.E.C. Captain Royal Berkshire Regiment

2 1908 Hyslop W.C. Lieutenant-Colonel Lancashire Royal Field Artillery (Militia)

4 1910 Izat A.R. Captain Royal Garrison Artillery

5 1911 Jackson R.R.B. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 James E.L.H. Captain Royal West Kent Regiment

4 1910 Jeffcoat A.C. Captain Royal Fusiliers

2 1908 Jellicoe R.O. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 Jones R.P. Captain Royal Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

2 1908 Keddie H.W.C. Major Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Kelly R.H.V. Captain Royal Field Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

6 1912 Kennedy A.E. Lieutenant Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders

1 1907 Knaggs M.H. Major North Staffordshire Regiment

5 1911 Koebel H.A. Major Royal Artillery

3 1909 Langton A.V. Captain Royal Garrison Artillery

7 1913 Larmour F. Captain Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Lawrence B. Captain East Yorkshire Regiment

6 1912 Lawson J.L. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Lea P.G.P. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 Legge R.F. Major Leinster Regiment

3 1909 Lethbridge T.C. Lieutenant Indian Army

1 1907 Lewis C.H. Major Indian Army

4 1910 Liddell A.R. Major Army Service Corps

5 1911 Lipsett L.J. Captain Royal Irish Regiment

6 1912 Longridge J.A. Captain Indian Army

5 1911 Lord F.B. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Lucas C.F. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 MacCall G.F. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Mackenzie K.D. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Maidlow J.S. Captain Royal Artillery

1 1907 Mairis G.D. de M. Captain East Kent Regiment

4 1910 Man H.W. Captain Hampshire Regiment & Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Marrable T.J. Captain Lancashire Fusiliers

6 1912 Massey C.M.H. Captain Coldstream Guards

2 1908 Maule H.N. St J. Major Royal Artillery

3 1909 McCheane M.W.H. Major Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 McNalty C.E.I. Major Army Service Corps

3 1909 McVittie R.H. Captain Royal Garrison Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

4 1910 Meiklejohn R.F. Captain Royal Warwickshire Regiment

2 1908 Mercer A.A. Captain Dorsetshire Regiment

8 1914 Montgomerie W.G. Captain Leinster Regiment

3 1909 Montgomery H.M. de F. Major Royal Field Artillery

4 1910 Moore M. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Moores C.F. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Morrison C.G. Lieutenant-Colonel Half Pay

8 1914 Nelson C. Captain 15th Hussars

2 1908 Norrington F.C.S. Major Army Service Corps

7 1913 Norton W.H. Captain Royal Field Artillery

3 1909 Ollivant J.S. Captain Royal Field Artillery

5 1911 Parker W.M. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Parsons D.J.J. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Payn W.A. Captain Shropshire Light Infantry

6 1912 Pickering C.J. Captain West Riding Regiment

4 1910 Plummer E.W. Major Royal Field Artillery

2 1908 Puckle J. Major Army Service Corps

2 1908 Ramsay-Fairfax-Lucy H.W. Lieutenant Reserve of Officers

1 1907 Raymond H.E. Captain Yorkshire Regiment

3 1909 Ready F.F. Captain Royal Berkshire Regiment

6 1912 Reid H.G. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Reid F.J. Major Army Service Corps

6 1912 Richards J.C.F. Captain Hampshire Regiment

5 1911 Rinwill W.R. Captain Liverpool Regiment

5 1911 Rivis T.C.L. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 Roberts A.H. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 Robinson E.L. Captain Indian Army

8 1914 Romilly A.H. Captain Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry

7 1913 Rose R.H.W. Captain Scottish Rifles

1 1907 Ruggles-Brise H.G. Major Grenadier Guards

3 1909 Russell H.J. Major Army Service Corps

4 1910 Russell H.D. Captain Army Service Corps

7 1913 Ruttledge T.G. Captain Connaught Rangers

8 1914 Sayers L.D.W. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Scott E.W.W. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Scott P.C.J. Major Army Service Corps

4 1910 Scott Elliott W. Captain Army Service Corps

7 1913 Seddon R.F.S. Captain New Zealand Staff Corps

4 1910 Shinkwin I.R.S. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Simmons P.W. Captain Royal Marine Light Infantry & Army Ordnance Department

3 1909 Slaughter R.J. Captain Army Service Corps

6 1912 Smith A.A. Captain Indian Army

8 1914 Smith W.F. Major Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

3 1909 Standen R.H.F. Major Army Service Corps

5 1911 Steel E.A. Captain Royal Artillery

2 1908 Stephen C.M. Captain Cheshire Regiment

6 1912 Stevenson K.L. Captain Royal Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Stirling C. Major Royal Artillery

3 1909 Street A. Captain Army Service Corps

3 1909 Striedinger O. Captain Army Service Corps

7 1913 Strong F.L.H. Captain Army Pay Department

2 1908 Swabey W.S. Major Army Service Corps

4 1910 Swann C.J.H. Major Royal Field Artillery

5 1911 Sydney Turner C.G.R. Captain Army Service Corps

2 1908 Synge M. Captain Indian Army

2 1908 Tarver W.K. Captain Army Service Corps

1 1907 Taylor E.F. Major Army Service Corps

1 1907 Tennant H.L. Major Royal Artillery

1 1907 Terry A.H. Major Army Service Corps

8 1914 Thackeray C.B. Major Royal Field Artillery

3 1909 Thompson N.A. Major Seaforth Highlanders

8 1914 Thwaites G. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Timbrell T. Captain Indian Army

6 1912 Travers H.C. Captain Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Trimnell W.D.C. Major Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Twidale W.C.E. Captain Royal Field Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

8 1914 Udal A.U. Captain Army Service Corps

8 1914 Upton C.D.E. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Vawdrey G. Major Army Service Corps

4 1910 Villiers-Stuart P. Captain Royal Fusiliers

1 1907 Wade H.A.L.H. Captain Royal Artillery

6 1912 Walker C.B. Captain Army Service Corps

4 1910 Walshe G.G.J. Lieutenant Royal Artillery & Army Ordnance Department

7 1913 Ward G.B.C. Captain South Wales Borderers

8 1914 Ward H.C.S. Captain 2nd Lancers, Indian Army

8 1914 Ward W.R. Lieutenant-Colonel Canadian Militia

7 1913 Watson R.H. Captain Royal North Lancashire Regiment

2 1908 Watts C.D.R. Major Army Ordnance Department

1 1907 Waymouth C.S.H. Captain Dorsetshire Regiment

1 1907 Woodifield A.H. Major Army Ordnance Department

7 1913 Worsley R.S. Captain Army Service Corps

5 1911 Wortham P.W.T.H. Major Army Ordnance Department

7 1913 Worthington-Wilmer L.E.C. Captain Somerset Light Infantry

3 1909 Wroughton J.B. Captain Royal Sussex Regiment

6 1912 Yates C. McG. Lieutenant Royal Artillery

2 1908 Young J.M. Captain Army Service Corps

Chris

[Rory Reynolds]

I don't know if CPhillips is still active on the Forum but I happened upon this 2012 post and found it fascinating. I have, since last year, been in the possession of  the group to one of the chaps mentioned - Lt. Colonel Arnold Herklots, D.S.O. 

 

I wonder if there are any course photographs of these men in existence? Would dearly like to see what my chap looked like.

 

Regards

 

Rory

 

Edited 19 March , 2020 by Rory Reynolds

[Moonraker]

C Phillips last visited us just 15 hours ago, so hopefully, Rory,  when next he returns he will spot your post.

[travers61]

There is a photo next to this newspaper article, which I assume is Arnold. Sorry I don't have a sub to BNA to see the full page, but I think if you log in there you get 3 free looks before paying ?

 

... groceries, for which we are very gratefuL I A TOMMY’S HEARTFELT THANKS. MAJOR ARNOLDHER.KLOTS, A.S.C., who has been awarded the D. 5.0., is the younger brother the Rev. B. Herklots (Vicar Shipley). He was mentioned despatches early in the war, and is expected ...

Published: Friday 12 January 1917 
Newspaper: Shipley Times and Express 

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=arnold herklots&retrievecountrycounts=false

[Matthew B.]

Administrative staff training course run at the LSE in the prewar period, set up by Haldane and Mackinder

 

In the January 1915 Indian Army List, they did have the abbreviation of:

(e) Qualified in a course of Instruction at the London School of Economics

 

Plus the Indian Army list in the Special List section

Officers now serving who have passed a course of Instruction at the London School of Economics

 

7 1913 Alexander H.M. Captain Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

Herbert Maitland, DSO, OBE

b. 1/2/1881

1^st comm. 11/8/1900

Lt-Col 11/8/26

Retired 28/10/31

Died 09/12/1942

 

5 1911 Duxbury C.D. Captain Indian Army - Supply and Transport Corps

Charles Douglas

B. 30/10/75

1^st comm 14/8/1895

Colonel 14/8/25

Ret 1/4/32

 

7 1913 Ellis A. C. S. B. Captain 121st Pioneers, Indian Army

Alfred Charles Samuel Burdon

b. 9/6/1876

1^st comm 5/8/1896

Commanded 128th Pioneers 1 Dec 1919 -  April 1921.

Commanded 121st Pioneers April 1921 - ? 121^st Pioneers in Waziristan from October 1920 (he received CBE for Waziristan)

(officially C.O. 121st Pioneers 1 Aug 1921 – 30 Nov 1923)

Colonel 1/12/23

Retired 14/6/30 – his last posting had been on the staff as an A.A. & Q.M.G

Also psc – passed staff college

 

8 1914 Fitzgerald A. Lieutenant Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

Arthur, O.B.E

b. 31/7/1881

1^st comm 21/6/05

Col 22/6/34

Ret 1/8/36

 

7 1913 Geoghegan O.A. Captain Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

Oswald Alan, C.B, D.S.O.

B 9/10/79

1^st comm 12/8/1899

Col 12/829

Ret. 5/6/33

 

8 1914 Gibbs A.A. Major Indian Medical Service

Andrew Armstrong

B. 8/3/1871 (Dublin)

1^st Comm Surgeon Lieut 29/7/1895

Major General 3/1/1927

Ret. 7/7/1928

 

3 1909 Lethbridge T.C. Lieutenant Indian Army

Thomas Charles, Captain, 119^th Infantry d 21/08/1912 Madras

 

1 1907 Lewis C.H. Major Indian Army - 35th Scinde Horse.

B. 22/10/1861

1st comm. 30/7/1884

Charles Henry, Lt-Col (ret)

Promoted Lieutenant-Colonel 30th July, 1910.

Retired 26 April 1912

Died 15/9/1928

 

6 1912 Longridge J.A. Captain Indian Army

James Atkinson, Brevet Lt-Col, 43^rd Erinpura Regt kia 18/8/16

 

6 1912 Robinson E.L. Captain Indian Army (75th Carnatic Infantry)

Ernest Leef

B. 19/9/1883

1^st comm 18/1/02

Major 18/1/17

Ret 18/1/23

 

6 1912 Smith A.A. Captain Indian Army – 58^th Rifles

Alfred Aquila, Maj (ret) d 14/7/30

 

8 1914 Smith W.F. Major Supply and Transport Corps, Indian Army

William Frank, O.B.E.

B. 28/1/70

1^st com – 21/9/1889

Col 10/8/20

Ret 21/11/21

 

2 1908 Synge M. Captain Indian Army - Supply and Transport Corps

B. 25/4/1871

Mark, Lt-Col,

 d 11/7/1921

 

An author under the alias of Powell Millington

In Cantonments. A Few Sketches of India

Published Allahabad, 1897

In And Beyond Cantonments

published 1904

To Lhassa at Last

An account of the author's travels in Tibet first published in 1904.

A Homeward Mail

published 1907

On the Track of the Àbor

An account of the author's involvement in the Abor campaign of 1911-12 in North-East India first published in 1912

 

Official publications he wrote – the first to be of great interest, I think.

Certain subjects taught to officers at the London School of Economics

Calcutta: Superintendent Government Printing, India,1909

Elementary Economics, as an aid to the Supply and Transport Officer.

2nd. ed. Calcutta (Supt. Govt. Printing, India) : 1918

 

5 1911 Timbrell T. Captain Indian Army - Supply and Transport Corps

Thomas, D.S.O.

B. 2/11/78

1st comm – 20/7/1898

Lt-Col 20/7/24

Retired 21/10/31

 

8 1914 Ward H.C.S. Captain 2nd Lancers, Indian Army

b. 12/6/1879 in Saugor, Bengal, India, the only son of Colonel Henry Constantine Evelyn Ward, CIE

(Awarded CIE NYH 1888 - Colonel Henry Constantine Evelyn Ward, Bengal Staff Corps, Minister of the Bhopal State.)

Henry Charles Swinburne CIE OBE

Edu ? and Sandhurst

1^st comm – 27/7/1898

Joined 2^nd Lancers 1901

Married 10 Oct 1906 in Simla, Bengal, India to Arbella Mary Cooke (however she applied for a legal separation in 1922)

He was Captain & Adjutant of the 2nd Lancers in 1909

Attended the staff college, Quetta from Spring 1911 to December 1912 and passed the course, obtaining the post nominals of psc.

 

War Services

Staff Captain Imperial Service Brigade, 1914

G.S.O. 2 in Egyptian Expeditionary Force 1915-16

G.S.O. 1 2nd Mounted Division, Palestine 1917 to April 1917

G.S.O. 2 (I) 2nd Division 1917-19 (Afghan War)

G.S.O. 1 Khyber area 1920-

 

7 x MID,

Serbian Order of the White Eagle 4th class with swords also

CIE (for the 3^rd Afghan war - The London Gazette (Supplement). 30 July 1920. p. 8050.)

OBE (LG?)

promoted brevet Lt-Colonel (LG 4/6/17 - rewards for distinguished service in the Field, dated 3rd June, 1917)

Colonel 1/8/21

Retired 1/4/27 in India

 

However, that was not the end of his military service!

London Gazette 23/3/1945

MEMORANDA.

Col. H. C. S. Ward, C.I.E., O.B.E. (195879), late Ind. Army, at his own request reverts to the rank of Maj., 7th Oct. 1940, whilst so empld.

Maj. H. C. S. Ward, C.I.E., O.B.E. (195879), late Ind. Army ret. Offr. re-empld., is restored to the rank of Lt.-Col., 23rd Feb. 1942.

Lt.-Col. H. C. S. Ward, C.I.E., O.B.E. (195879), late Ind. Army, ret. Offr. re-empld., is restored to the rank of Col., 5th Oct. 1944, on ceasing to be empld.

 

Later retired to Kenya

Died 1 Aug 1966

 

I hope that's of interest / help.

 

Regards,

 

Matthew

[stiletto_33853]

Major Thomas Esme Baring, ref: 1957 Rifle Brigade Chronicle

[stiletto_33853]

Richard George Tyndall Bright, ref 1944 Rifle Brigade Chronicle

[CPhillips]

Thanks all for the interesting information. Sadly it's come a little too late for inclusion in either the thesis or book that I have been working on, but both do include further details on the course.

 

Sadly, I don't know of any photographs of the course, or of those who completed it. There are few references to it in the contemporary literature, the most complete being a review in the Royal Engineers Journal in 1907 after the first cohort had passed through.

[Nick Keyes]

Sorry this is too late for research, just seen your post when looking for material on my grandfather Major Arthur Victor Langton RGA.  After the course he did not have a distinguished career!  Attached to Canadian and American armies for a couple of years.  Was in Fort Carlisle, Queenstown, Co Cork with 43 Coy RGA (coastal guns) 1913-1916, then Siege Artillery (prob instructor but I haven’t nailed this yet) in Lydd, Kent 1916 - 1918.  No sign of any staff or War Office job that you would expect after a course of this kind, and no sign of any wartime active service, which for a gunner is extraordinary.  Apart from the North American years, his career before and after the course was in a series of coastal gun batteries around the Empire. Left the army immediately after the end of the war and became a civil servant in various Empire locations.  I am nevertheless very grateful to you for this vignette of his service as his service record is very thin.  He died when I was 5 and I have few memories of him and very little material on his career.