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The Unfindables, possible IFCP lads


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POWER, E. Rank: Captain

Theres a Medal card for a merchent marine in the NA - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8400221&queryType=1&resultcount=76

Medal Card of Power, Emanuel

Place of Birth: Dungarvan

Date1898

Catalogue referenceBT 351/1

Cant see a civilian death register in Liverpool, could they have taken the body home (back to Ireland) and registered it there ?

Grant

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Board of Guardians Wexford Union

http://eppi.dippam.a...428/0000253.jpg

1911 census Dr Henry Hadden in Wexford

http://www.census.na...__North/698045/

Henry Arthur Giles Hadden was commissioned 18th Dec 1915

http://www.london-ga...es/457/page.pdf

Captain as of 18th Dec 1916

http://www.london-ga...upplements/1627

July 1917 relinquishes rank as a result of ill health

http://www.ncbi.nlm....j07109-0037.pdf

Died 30/8/1917. His grave marker can be seen here

http://www.rootschat...topic=368645.30

Thank you John, another IFCP lad perhaps?

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Tom,

You are going to have to get used to these local rag typos.

F E Warby is Frederick Ernest WORBY:

CWGC

Phil

Thanks Phil, yes thats him.You are great at this.

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There's a small amount of papers for Anthony Burgess in the Pensions sections. Will have a look to see if there's anything of interest, if you don't already have them.

Name: Anthony Burgess

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876

Age at enlistment: 40

Document Year: 1916

Regimental Number: 4355

Regiment Name: 3rd Connaught Rangers

ETA: conclusion was "not result of but aggravated by active service".

Thanks Verrico, I have the papers, but thank you for the offer.

4355 Anthony Burgess was a man i looked up in the past for you Tom if i recall the army wanted to send him to a sanitorium but he refused himself.He was discharged with TB i think he is a candidate for iftc.john

Yes indeed John, you sent me his details,I am sure I know where he is buried but have yet to find it on paper.

Kind regards.

Tom.

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This could be your Martin Gallagher - can't see him on CWGC but his MIC notes DoW.:-

Name: M Gallagher

Regiment or Corps: Leinster Regiment

Regimental Number: 6865

ETA: date of entry into theatre was 8 September 1914 - possibly a pre-war regular?

ETA2: definitely Martin as there's a separate card for his BWM and VM:-

Name: Martin Gallagher [M Gallagher]

Regiment or Corps: Leinster Regiment

Regimental Number: 6865

Thank you Louise, thats a definite possible IFCP lad.

I would never have found him.

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M. Lyons, Connaughts.

Probably W not M

http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/578505/LYONS,%20W

SDGW

Name: William Lyons

Birth Place: Athlone

Residence: Athlone, Co. Westmeath

Death Date: 14 Sep 1914

Death Location: France & Flanders

Enlistment Location: Oranmore, Co. Galway

Rank: Private

Regiment: Connaught Rangers

Battalion: 2nd Battalion

Number: 3166

Type of Casualty: Killed in action

Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

John

Thank you John, there are a few Lyons but only one in the Connaughts and that is William.

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Sgt Rafter would appear to be 7107 Sgt Richard Rafter. After discharge 20/10/1916, address 19 Gladstone St, Clonmel, Co Tipp. Originally from Maryborough, Queen's Co as was, born 1883. Father John, Ballyfin, Maryborough. Mother Sarah, Originally enlisted 1901 and stationed in Clonmel. Married to Christine MacGregor; one daughter.

death in Dublin

https://familysearch...M9.1.1/FR2H-MM3

A brother killed with the Canadians

http://www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierDetail.asp?Id=58705

http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/1595427/RAFTER,%20GEORGE%20ANTHONY

Thank you John, another IFCP possible.

Regards.

Tom.

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Richard (Sydney) Somerset Maxwell survived WW1 and died in 1967.

http://thepeerage.com/p44268.htm

Baptism record

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e5bc9f0005865

His medal card states he applied for his medals in 1920.

Black Watch 1914/15

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/28935/pages/8138/page.pdf

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/29210/pages/6273/page.pdf

not sure if this 'pipe banner' belonged to him

http://www.theblackw...dex/keeping-mum

Capt RSS Maxwell gets a mention in the Dail

http://historical-de...2902270030.html

Thank you John, it just goes to show. I thought the 'Our Heroes' would not have make a mistake, but there you go.

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Hi Tom

ROBERT THOMPSON DALY

just had a look at Robert,s pesion papers

from his discharge Document

Cause of discharge Physically unfit (tuberculosis Plum-)

Originated 19/08/16 in France fell ill a few days and reported sick 25/08/16

TB found when in France moist ailes? in upper lobis? weight 9s 7 lbs improved 6lbs

6lbs since 1/9/16 little cough very little expectororation? TB found Sept 8th expiation prolonged at apices?

Respiration rather harsh occasional night sweats result of active service due to infection response

Not Stated if permanent Total Incapacity

Discharged from the army 22/10/ 1916

died at home 7th January 1917 four months after discharge

as he died just 4 months after discharge due to T B contacted in France ? he may qualify for inclusion

on CWGC I am sure the In from the cold team will advise

if you would like a copy of the relevent Documents PM me with an e mail address will send as j pegs

or for those with Ancestry here is the link R T Daly

regards Ray

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April, 1917.

Clare Soldier Killed in Action.

News has been received from the War Office by his mother, that Sergeant Michael Butler, D.C.M, Ennis, has been killed in action. He was granted last summer the D.C.M, for distinguished conduct in the field, and subsequently promoted to be Sergeant, and on his first visit to Ennis, steps were taken for a public presentation to mark fellow-townspeople’s appreciation of his gallantry.

Could this be Michael Butler, Corporal, 8121, 1st batt, Royal Munster Fusiliers

Kia France 09/09/16

Born Drumcliffe, Co Clare

Listed in Irelands Memorial Records 14 -18

Supposed to be listed in LG 11/03/16 for DCM, But I can't find entry

CWGC - http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/75228638/BUTLER,%20MICHAEL

Grant

Hello Grant. Believe it or not its not him, but, he is a lad I did not have, well done and thank you very very much. I would not have found him without your help. The man above smay have been listed as Burley with a bit of a mixup in IMR. Then again it may just be him. With the mixup in the records it is difficult to nail him down and the DOD is slightly different.

Thank you again.

SDGW

Royal Army Service Corps

Warby

Frederick ,Ernest F.E DVR, T3/029097

Born - Tottington ,Norfolk

Enlisted - Norwich

Residence - Thetford

Died of Wounds - 24/10/1915

France & Flanders

Ian

Thank you Ian.

Thank you Johnnie.

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POWER, E. Rank: Captain

Theres a Medal card for a merchent marine in the NA - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8400221&queryType=1&resultcount=76

Medal Card of Power, Emanuel

Place of Birth: Dungarvan

Date1898

Catalogue referenceBT 351/1

Cant see a civilian death register in Liverpool, could they have taken the body home (back to Ireland) and registered it there ?

Grant

Thank you Grant, yes he died in Liverpool but I did not know he was in the Mercantile Marine, I thought it might just be a Coaster or other non M-Marine service he was in.

Thank you for the extra information.

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Hi Tom

ROBERT THOMPSON DALY

just had a look at Robert,s pesion papers

from his discharge Document

Cause of discharge Physically unfit (tuberculosis Plum-)

Originated 19/08/16 in France fell ill a few days and reported sick 25/08/16

TB found when in France moist ailes? in upper lobis? weight 9s 7 lbs improved 6lbs

6lbs since 1/9/16 little cough very little expectororation? TB found Sept 8th expiation prolonged at apices?

Respiration rather harsh occasional night sweats result of active service due to infection response

Not Stated if permanent Total Incapacity

Discharged from the army 22/10/ 1916

died at home 7th January 1917 four months after discharge

as he died just 4 months after discharge due to T B contacted in France ? he may qualify for inclusion

on CWGC I am sure the In from the cold team will advise

if you would like a copy of the relevent Documents PM me with an e mail address will send as j pegs

or for those with Ancestry here is the link R T Daly

regards Ray

Thats a great piece of decective work Ray, well done and thank you, another IFCP possible. IFCP please note these lads.

Thank you again Ray, without access you your references he would not have been found.

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Dang this is very intense, all these results after years of now knowing or being able to find anything.

Thanks to you all, its very much appreciated.

Kind regards.

Tom.(in awe, as usual)

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Hello Verrico, I am not really sure. I cannot see a Westmeath connection, but thank you for your help.

I know - if only all the MICs had been completed with addresses!

Is there any way to annotate your original post, Tom, so that we can see the ones you're satisfied have been nailed to give an idea of who's left?

Louise

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Hello Louise. Yes that would be the logical move, I have to do it later though, I am off to work in a mo.

Have a safe journey and enjoy your trip tomorrow!!

Kind regards.

Tom.

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MOSSMAN, HARRY. Rank: Sapper. Regiment or Service: Royal Engineers. Unit;97th Company. Date of Death:02-01-1916. Age at Death, 28. Service No:16942. Died of wounds.

A bit inconclusive this one and may need a death certificate to find cause of death and date of death.

Sapper Harry Mossman appears to have enlisted 11th Nov 1907; discharged 18/7/1915 as no longer physically fit. He served in France from 15/8/1914 (MIC says 23/8/1914) to 27/12/1914 and was then Home 28/12/1914 to 18/7/1915. No mention of any wounds in either his service record or pension record.

There is a letter in his service record from Chelsea Hospital. In his pension record there is a form re admission to Chelsea Hospital 22/7/1915.

He was in 9 Field Company, RE rather than 97th. I flag the MIC entry above as 9th Field Co arrived in Boulogne on the 23rd August 1914. 97th embarked for France in September 1915.

I see there's a thread on Rootschat re him.

A Harry Mossman's death is registered in Q4 1915. No other death for Harry Mossman is listed.

His brother Fred and his father John Frederick both appear to have died Q2 1915.

His father had been a Corporal in the RHA in Portobello Barracks at the time of a sisters baptism.

No family tree on Ancestry with Harry.

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Than you Jdoyle, more stuff in there that I did not have, many thanks.

Kind regards.

Tom.

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Re DULLARD

SDGW has him as Nicholas Dullard 1st Battn Leinester Regt Private 6108 born and resident Kilkenny died of wounds 24/4/15.

CWGC has him named as Michael with same number and date aged 35, son of Nicholas and Bridget Dullard; husband of Mary Dullard (nee Byrne), of 2, Callan Rd., Kilkenny.

Medal Card has 6108 as Nicholas, arrived France 9 Sep 1914 awarded 14 star, VW, BWM and died of wounds.

Looks like a typo by CWGC.

Stuart

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RE Broderick

Here is possible candidate:

Charles Broderick

12 Bn Roayl Fusiliers (City of London Regt)

KIA 28 Sep 1915

No. 5112

Born Sligo. Co. Sligo

Enlisted Mullingar

Listed SDGW and Ireland Casualties of WW1 on Ancestry.

Medal card with no. G/5112 arrived France 1 Sep 1915 and marked Presumed Dead 28 Sep 1915. Awarded 1915 Star, BW and VW. No service Papers on Ancestry.

CWGC have him as on the Loos Memorial Panels 25 to 27, aged 20 and Son of Fred and Rose Broderick, of 8, Mill Rd., Mullingar.

Stuart

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re RAFTER

Just to add that his papers on Ancestry note that he was discharged 20 Oct 1916 as no longer physically fit for war service Para 392 (xvi) KR. He had enlisted 2 Oct 1901, served in S Africa and India, BEF from 2 Aug 1915 until 30 Sep 1915 then posted home to depot. Married to Christina Thompson mcGregor 2 Nov 1914 at Clonmel.

Stuart

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Re LEETCH

How about -

L/Cpl William Leitch

2nd Bn Irish Guards

no. 1909

27 Nov 1917 KIA France

Born Ballysokerry Co. Mayo

Enlisted Ballina Co. Mayo

Residence Pimlico Middlesex.

His is the only William Leitch/Leetch medal card on Ancestry - disembarked France 13 Aug 1914, awarded Clasp (but no mention of star) BW and VM.

CWGC has him commemorated on the Cambrai Memorial panel 2 and 3.

Stuart

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Re MCNAMARA

Here are 4 possible candidates:

James McNamara

Pte 3745

Royal Ir Regt

Medal card shows entered Balkans 5 Sep 1915 and discharged.

SWB A/728

John McNamara

Pte 3976

Royal Ir Regt

Medal card shows entered France 8 Feb 1915 and discharged.

SWB A/253

Michael McNamara

Pte 7208

Royal Ir Regt

Medal card shows entered France 31 Mar 1915 and discharged. No SWB listed

Thomas McNamara

Pte 8050

Royal Ir Regt

Medal card shows entered France 13 Aug 1914 and discharged.

SWB A/40

No pension records for them.

Stuart

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Re DULLARD

SDGW has him as Nicholas Dullard 1st Battn Leinester Regt Private 6108 born and resident Kilkenny died of wounds 24/4/15.

CWGC has him named as Michael with same number and date aged 35, son of Nicholas and Bridget Dullard; husband of Mary Dullard (nee Byrne), of 2, Callan Rd., Kilkenny.

Medal Card has 6108 as Nicholas, arrived France 9 Sep 1914 awarded 14 star, VW, BWM and died of wounds.

Looks like a typo by CWGC.

Stuart

Thank you Stuart, that my man.

Kind regards.

Tom.

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RE Broderick

Here is possible candidate:

Charles Broderick

12 Bn Roayl Fusiliers (City of London Regt)

KIA 28 Sep 1915

No. 5112

Born Sligo. Co. Sligo

Enlisted Mullingar

Listed SDGW and Ireland Casualties of WW1 on Ancestry.

Medal card with no. G/5112 arrived France 1 Sep 1915 and marked Presumed Dead 28 Sep 1915. Awarded 1915 Star, BW and VW. No service Papers on Ancestry.

CWGC have him as on the Loos Memorial Panels 25 to 27, aged 20 and Son of Fred and Rose Broderick, of 8, Mill Rd., Mullingar.

Stuart

Stuart, well done, I dont know why I could not find that lad, but you have saved my neck. Many thanks.

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re RAFTER

Just to add that his papers on Ancestry note that he was discharged 20 Oct 1916 as no longer physically fit for war service Para 392 (xvi) KR. He had enlisted 2 Oct 1901, served in S Africa and India, BEF from 2 Aug 1915 until 30 Sep 1915 then posted home to depot. Married to Christina Thompson mcGregor 2 Nov 1914 at Clonmel.

Stuart

Another cracker to you, well done and thank you Stuart.

Kind regards.

Tom.

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