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what battalion of the Essex Regiment


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My Son is researching his Great Grandfather. All we know was that he was in the Essex Regiment.

In 1916 he was in Ismalia, Egypt. We dont know the battalion?? How can he find out

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It will probably be one of the Territorial battalions od the Essex Regiment. 1/4th, 1/5th, 1/6th, or 1/7th. All were in 161st (Essex) Brigade of 54th Division and had been on Gallipoli in 1915. In 1917 they took part in the three battles at Gaza.

http://www.1914-1918.net/essex.htm

Do you have a name, Regimental number or even a place of residence, as all would help us ID him.

Steve.

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His name was George Arthur Bareham, born 22nd August 1893, he lived in Little Clacton, Essex right up until he died in 1962. No regimental number known unfortunately.

(Have been told they may have spelt Arthur wrong on some of his records).

Thankyou

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G A Bareham, Pte, 5th Essex, 3135 and then 250720.

(My aunt lives in Clacton-on-Mud)

Bruce

Further.....

Guess whose Service records survive!!!

16 pages on ancestry.

I will find out more if you would like, but I can tell you that he attested at Clacton on November 25th, 1914.

Appointed Lance Corporal (unpaid) on 10.10.15, he was posted on 21.3.16. He was "Disembodied on Demobilisation" (demobbbed, not cut into many pieces!) on 26.7.26 at Warlet, and his home address was The Street, little Clacton, and his Protection Certificate and Certificate of Identity, for a soldier not remaining with the Colours) was issued from Purfleet on 29.6.19.

Hope this helps.

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3135 later 250720 Pte George A Bareham was in the 5th Essex Regt by the look of things, you'll get an image of his medal card here http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?MS_AdvCB=1&db=MedalRolls&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsfn_x=XO&gsln=bareham&gsln_x=XO&gskw_x=1&_F0003FD8=250720&dbOnly=_F0003FD8%7C_F0003FD8_x&_F0003FD8_x=1&dbOnly=_F0003FD9%7C_F0003FD9_x&_F0003FD9_x=1&uidh=000 on Ancestry, if you don't have an account, click on "View Record" and you'll be offered a free trial, it's worth taking as his Service record has survived on there also http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?MS_AdvCB=1&db=BritishArmyService&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&gsfn_x=1&gsln=bareham&gsln_x=1&msbdy_x=1&msbpn_x=XO&msbpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=XO&msrpn__ftp_x=1&msidy_x=1&gskw_x=1&_F0003C18=3135&dbOnly=_F0003C18%7C_F0003C18_x&_F0003C18_x=1&dbOnly=_F0003CA3%7C_F0003CA3_x&_F0003CA3_x=1&uidh=000

The 5th Essex were part of the 54th Division, this http://www.1914-1918.net/54div.htm from the Long Long Trail gives a little detail of what the Division did, as you'll see they served in Gallipoli then Palestine.

Any more questions just ask.

Sam

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[...]He was "Disembodied on Demobilisation" (demobbbed, not cut into many pieces!) on 26.7.26 at Warlet [...]

I think that is more likely to be Warley.

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Hello footymum

Of those quoted by Stebie, 1/5th looks the most likely. Pre-war they had a company based at Clacton, and the other three battalions mostly came from the south-west of the county. The duplicate battalions, 2/4th, 2/5th, 2/6th and 2/7th all spent the war on home defence in the UK.

The War Diaries of the others are in the National Archives at Kew in these files:

WO 95/4325 161 Infantry Brigade: Headquarters. 1915 Aug. - Dec.

WO 95/4325 161 Infantry Brigade: 1/4 Battalion Essex Regiment. 1914 July - 1915 Dec.

WO 95/4325 161 Infantry Brigade: 1/5 Battalion Essex Regiment. 1915 July - Dec.

WO 95/4325 161 Infantry Brigade: 1/6 Battalion Essex Regiment. 1915 July - Dec.

WO 95/4325 161 Infantry Brigade: 1/7 Battalion Essex Regiment. 1915 July - Dec.

for their time in Gallipoli, and

WO 95/4650 161 Infantry Brigade

WO 95/4650 1/4 Battalion Essex Regiment 1916 Jan. - 1919 Sept.

WO 95/4650 1/5 Battalion Essex Regiment 1916 Jan. - 1919 Sept.

WO 95/4650 1/6 Battalion Essex Regiment 1916 Jan. - 1919 May

WO 95/4651 1/7 Battalion Essex Regiment 1916 Jan. - 1919 June

for their time in Egypt and Palestine.

War Diaries rarely mention men by name other than officers, but the location of the unit, with a brief description of its activities, is given on each day.

The only other Essex battalion which served in Egypt was 1st Garrison Battalion, which served on the lines of communication, but I think this is less likely. Ismailia suggests service on the Suez Canal Defences, which was effectively a front-line duty.

Good hunting!

Ron

Edit: Others just beat me to it, and confirm that it was indeed 1/5th Battalion.

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I think that is more likely to be Warley.

My typong is imprivig!

It most certainly is Warley, just outside Brentwood ("Only way is Essex"), where the Chapel to the essex Regt. is just next door to the HQ of Fords.

Bruce

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Thankyou very much for all your help. My son will be so pleased with all this information when he gets home from school, as am I.

Bruce we would appreciate any help thankyou.

Clacton on mud......? it has beautiful golden sand (ha ha)

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Beautiful golden sands???

It is shale at one end, and sharp shale at the other!

Now Frinton.....hello 1953.

My ancestry seems very slow today, but I will look out for whatever more I can find at let you know.

Bruce

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My ancestry has just about stopped altogether!

Bruce

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Finally managed to read it all.

Upon demob, his sobriety was "good", and he was also reliable and intelligent.

He had a rather pain-strewn war.

He left devonport on 22.7.15.

He was wounded by a bullet wound, left big toe on Gallipoli on 24.3.15, transfered to the general Hospital in Alexandria on 1.9.15, and was invalided back to the UK on 17.10.15 on the Glengorm Castle.

Presumably he could then have been visited by his next of kin, his Father George.

Subsequently, he spent a further five days in hospital 26.6.15 to 1.7.15 with "inflamed CT R foot".

He disembarked back in Alexandria on 29.5.16, and joined his battalion at Shallufa on 8.6.16.

He was wounded, gun shot wound to the shoulder, on 26.3.17, admitted to 19th Gen Hosp in Alex on 8.4.17, rejoined his battalion on 17.5.17.

Between then and the end of the war, he spent time in hospitals for neurasthenia from 2.11.17, for pyrexia from 3.7.18, and sandfly fever from 22.7.18. He survived all that to return home via Taranto on 14.6.19.

He had quite a war, didn't he!

Bruce

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For the record, the 26th March 1917 was the day of the 1st Battle of Gaza, and 2nd November 1917 was the day (from 54th Division's role) of the 3rd Battle of Gaza.

Steve.

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He left devonport on 22.7.15.

He was wounded by a bullet wound, left big toe on Gallipoli on 24.3.15, transfered to the general Hospital in Alexandria on 1.9.15, and was invalided back to the UK on 17.10.15 on the Glengorm Castle.

Left Devonport 22.1.15 or 22.2.15, if he was wounded in March? Or was he perhaps wounded on 24.8.15?

(Sorry to be picky, Bruce!)

Ron

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No need to agolopise....wounded in the August....well spotted that man!

Bruce

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